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"Joe_Z" <JoeZ@botkiller.com> wrote in message
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> "Dr.White" <akai.electric.co@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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>> "Joe_Z" <JoeZ@botkiller.com> wrote in message
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>>> "Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message
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>>>> Joe_Z wrote:
>>>>> I'm going 64 bit and would like to OC a little er maybe alot and maybe
>>>>> get a larger CPU when they come down (if they ever do) I'd like the
>>>>> low voltage version first so I can have time to save up for a 500w PSU
>>>>> later, I've looked at the Asus boards with the long pipe copper heat
>>>>> sink and the xp 4200 I believe it is, anyway I'd just like a chipset
>>>>> that allows some clocking and not break the bank before the quads come
>>>>> out, many thanks in advance...
>>>>
>>>> If you want to go AMD, they have introduced a great product for you.
>>>> The "black" edition processors, have unlocked multipliers. That means
>>>> you can just adjust the multiplier setting, to get whatever core
>>>> speed you want, without having to change the input clock to the CPU.
>>>> You'll need to pick up a heatsink/fan to use, as it is not included
>>>> with the "black" boxed processors.
>>>>
>>>> AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Brisbane 2.6GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2
>>>> 65W
>>>> Black Edition Processor - Retail $130
>>>> ("Cooling device not included - Processor Only" - see spec section)
>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103194
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>>>> I take it, that this one is unlocked as well. It also does not come
>>>> with a cooler. But the power dissipation rating of these is higher
>>>> than for other, lower speed members of the AM2 family, so plan
>>>> accordingly. Since this is already pretty close to the top operating
>>>> frequency for the family, I would not expect this to overclock a
>>>> lot percentage-wise. Note that "black edition" is not mentioned
>>>> in the advertising copy.
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>>>> AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ Windsor 3.2GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM2
>>>> Processor - Retail $210
>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103191
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>>>> You can check the power ratings of these products, by using
>>>> www.amdcompare.com . Overvolting the processor, makes it run hotter,
>>>> so buy a decent cooler.
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Paul
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>>> I've been and AMD man since I got my diron 700 clocked to a gig and
>>> never looked back at intel and don't expect I'll ever look at the $250+
>>> extra for a few megabytes more come on, many thanks for your input, will
>>> stay with AMD forever...Joe
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>> AMD made some incredible CPUs, no doubt. Going back to the days of
>> PR75(?) v. Pentium and before. I remember thinking - what the hell was
>> the point in paying quadruple for the same performance (Athlon 800 v.
>> P3-800). AMD always had the best options, from budget to high-end. Athlon
>> XP's just smashed Intel's P4's all over the place, for much less money.
>> But things have changed massively, and Intel have the budget, midrange
>> and top end CPU's covered, their quad cores are long-proven, plus you can
>> overclock the hell out of cheap Core 2 Duos without even raising the
>> voltage.
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>> I really hope AMD can pull something astonishing out of the hat, God
>> knows they have been pioneers in the past, but they rested on their
>> laurels and I don't see the point in building a PC with a current AMD
>> CPU, especially if you're on a budget *and* you want to overclock, when
>> an Intel build for the same price can offer so much more power.
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>> Regards,
>>
>> Dr.White.
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> Thanks for the input, muchly appreciated, I'll remain a loyal AMD fan
> forever no question, my o'd duron 700 is still pumping at a 1gig 7 years
> later , along with my other 8 AMD systems...Joe
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I'm loyal to AMD no matter what.