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Old 23-11-2007, 11:29 PM   #12
David W Noon
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Re: Need HW advice for new PC - Which CPU

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On Friday 23 Nov 2007 11:22 in article <fi6cpv$kee$1@snic.vub.ac.be> of
alt.os.linux.gentoo, Wim Cossement(a@b.c) wrote:

> David W Noon wrote:

[snip]
>> You decide on the "bittedness" of the kernel, glibc, etc., when you
>> do the installation. You set the CHOST, CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS
>> in /etc/make.conf and you specify the processor type in the kernel
>> configuration: there are separate selections for AMD Hammer (Opteron,
>> Athlon64, etc.) and Intel EM64T (Pentium D, Core2 Duo/Quad).

>
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags


You should take a hefty pinch of salt with some of the suggested
settings in that Wiki page. It is intended for complete newbies.

If you go with an Intel EM64T, I will post you mine here, before you
install; just ask when you are ready. They are easily changed for AMD
K8/Opteron/etc., processors.

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>> The /dev/hdb indicates a PATA (EIDE/ATAPI) connection for the drive,
>> using the old PATA driver modules in the kernel. The newer libsata
>> drivers configure these drives into the SCSI namespace
>> as /dev/sr0, /dev/sr1, etc.
>>
>> If you are using a SATA interface as well as the PATA one then you
>> have probably configured the kernel wrongly. This is one of the
>> touchy areas of newer hardware under Linux.

>
> The HD is SATA but the optical drives are PATA so I have to use both.
> And I probably lost track a bit when the kernel started using
> libata... Following the Gentoo SATA wiki now.


You will likely need to use the libsata drivers for both your PATA and
SATA interfaces. Mixing the older PATA drivers with SATA can cause all
kinds of problems, especially with IRQ handling.

>> Also, most new motherboards don't have many PATA connectors --
>> typically only one. They have SATA connectors instead. Your old hard
>> drives might need some fiddling with adaptor connectors to get them
>> to work very, very slowly.

>
> I'll try to get an SATA only system then.


It depends what other peripherals you want to connect. If you want
ATAPI-connected CD/DVD-ROM and/or CD-RW/DVD+RW/-RW/-RAM drive(s) then a
PATA interface will be needed somewhere. But the typical modern mobo
has 1 PATA and 6 SATA connectors.

>> It looks to me that you are really faced with buying most of a new
>> system. You can probably keep your keyboard, mouse and screen.
>> Everything else will probably need to be upgraded.

>
> Well I'll also get a new screen and mouse, one that matches the colors
> :-)


Note also that beige is no longer available from some of the better case
manufacturers. You can only have black, silver or raw aluminium from
Chieftec and a few others these days.
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Regards

Dave [RLU#314465]
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