Common sense will tell you anything you create is yours to do with as you wish.
I've created booklets of all sorts of content, some were sold. It is rather like
a blank canvas, it has no value until the artist fills it with his/her creation.
Once you create your brochure, who knows what program you used...
Take a look at all the templates Microsoft puts up on their web site, they
wouldn't be there if Microsoft didn't expect them to be used. How many
PowerPoint presentations have you seen that were Microsoft templates?
Small Business editions of Office use to have a Media disk, you got to assume
the art was included for a small business use.
--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com
"Shiva" <Shiva@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Paul,
> what would you suggest to somebody who came acroass a scenario that is not
> included in the EULA then? Or better you're unsure if what is covered
> includes your situation...Can the advice given in this forum be taken
> seriously? Or is it just the simple opinion of amateurs?
> If you remember, my main question was: If you use a blank publication in the
> Publisher to create your own design can you sell it? Or is a blank
> publication to be considered a template as well?
> --
> Shiva
>
>
> "Paul Ballou" wrote:
>
>> Shiva,
>> The EULA is only complicated in my opinion as they can not create a
>> simple EULA that would cover every possible scenario that could occur .
>> There are people who will try to find loopholes in legal agreements so
>> instead of making things simple they need to be complicated to keep people
>> thinking and deter those who might misuse the program.
>>
>> --
>> Paul Ballou
>> MVP Office
>> http://office.microsoft.com/home
>> http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/
>> http://www.ballousgiftshop.com
>>
>>
>>
>> "Shiva" <Shiva@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:08074C09-C960-416B-9C72-CFC073DC4FE1@microsoft.com...
>> > Paul,
>> > if you need a lawyer to interpret the EULA, on the top of the things to
>> > learn when you buy a program, what's the point? Why not simplify users'
>> > life
>> > by writing in a way that is easy to understand? Would this discussion take
>> > place otherwise?
>> > I do realize that the answers given in this forum do NOT come from
>> > Microsoft, and even though some people might have a technical expertise
>> > cannot answer every question, then may I suggest Microsoft provide support
>> > in
>> > the field(s) not covered by the other "experts"? This would really be an
>> > extraordinary service as part of the package coming with the software you
>> > buy.
>> > --
>> > Shiva
>> >
>> >
>> > "Paul Ballou" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Shiva,
>> >> I never said she was incorrect or correct, My post was a question
>> >> to
>> >> ponder in regards to a statement in JoAnn's post....
>> >>
>> >> I made no reference to steal someone else's ideas ...The point I am
>> >> making
>> >> is a duplicate document can be create from scratch and still appear to
>> >> look
>> >> like one someone else created therefore how do you determine whether the
>> >> document is an original or someone else's work...
>> >>
>> >> Any legal concerns you have on the commercial use of the program can only
>> >> be
>> >> answered by reading the EULA or contacting a legal professional to
>> >> interpret
>> >> the EULA for you...
>> >>
>> >> The only advice you can get on the Commercial use of a program from a
>> >> News
>> >> Group is an Opinion on use....
>> >>
>> >> If you can not use a blank document in a program to create a design for
>> >> commercial use then you would need to question whether you can use a
>> >> sheet
>> >> of paper to design something for commercial use
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Paul Ballou
>> >> MVP Office
>> >> http://office.microsoft.com/home
>> >> http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/
>> >> http://www.ballousgiftshop.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Shiva" <Shiva@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:C69C0AB6-1D43-4CB0-ABB9-E3617DEC4C34@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Paul,
>> >> > the real dilemma here is whether is possible to sell your own design by
>> >> > using a blank document in the Publisher, not to steal somebody else's
>> >> > ideas.
>> >> > JoAnn is correct: if you want to be a designer, you should have,
>> >> > hopefully,
>> >> > plenty of ideas. But with all the limitations on the commercial use of
>> >> > the
>> >> > Media included in the program, it's a tricky business to figure it out.
>> >> > So,
>> >> > it's helpful, if black on white, somebody says it's possible to use a
>> >> > blank
>> >> > document without incurring some kind of legal troubles. Sending the
>> >> > user
>> >> > eternally back and forth the EULA doesn't really help. The forum gives
>> >> > an
>> >> > opportunity to address specific issues that might answer the question
>> >> > that
>> >> > thousands of people would like to ask.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Shiva
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Paul Ballou" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> JoAnn,
>> >> >> Just a thought on what you are saying what if someone recreates a
>> >> >> document from scratch and it resembles a previously created document
>> >> >> by
>> >> >> someone else? I personally believe templates are out there for people
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> use
>> >> >> as a starting point or as is....If someone chooses not to modify it
>> >> >> then
>> >> >> that's the choice they make and as far as copyright goes it will be
>> >> >> almost
>> >> >> next to impossible to prove who did or didn't create the document. It
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> best to provide links to the info posted on MS site and not try to
>> >> >> interpret
>> >> >> any part except from an opinion point of view...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Paul Ballou
>> >> >> MVP Office
>> >> >> http://office.microsoft.com/home
>> >> >> http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/
>> >> >> http://www.ballousgiftshop.com
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "JoAnn Paules" <jl_paules@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:270274C6-F20E-43D0-AAD6-1333DEF08F6F@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Starting with a blank document is fine. Like I said, it's not the
>> >> >> > use
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > the program, it's the content.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > JoAnn Paules
>> >> >> > Microsoft MVP - Publisher
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Shiva" <Shiva@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:0844D35C-4965-4513-897C-6111ABC8426A@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> JoAnn,
>> >> >> >> thanks for your promt reply and advise. I see what you're saying
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> last thing I need is to have legal troubles because of a template.
>> >> >> >> So,
>> >> >> >> If
>> >> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> use the blank publication and the features offered by the Publisher
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> build
>> >> >> >> one, can I sell this? or the blank publication is considered a
>> >> >> >> template
>> >> >> >> as
>> >> >> >> well?
>> >> >> >> You see it's hard to navigate the copyright world.
>> >> >> >> Thanks.
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Shiva
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "JoAnn Paules" wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> Shiva,
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> As I stated before, you really need to speak to an attorney who is
>> >> >> >>> familiar
>> >> >> >>> with copyright laws. The sticking point isn't the program you are
>> >> >> >>> using,
>> >> >> >>> it's the work itself. If you start from a blank document, you're
>> >> >> >>> fine.
>> >> >> >>> It's
>> >> >> >>> when you want to modify one of Microsoft's templates that starts
>> >> >> >>> to
>> >> >> >>> cross
>> >> >> >>> the line.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Imagine that you spend time creating a template, I buy it, move a
>> >> >> >>> few
>> >> >> >>> things
>> >> >> >>> and change the colors, and then sell it. How happy are you going
>> >> >> >>> to
>> >> >> >>> be
>> >> >> >>> about
>> >> >> >>> the fact that I've just violated your copyrights and profitted
>> >> >> >>> from
>> >> >> >>> your
>> >> >> >>> work?
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> --
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> JoAnn Paules
>> >> >> >>> Microsoft MVP - Publisher
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> "Shiva" <Shiva@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >>> news:CA8617F4-DAD7-4598-ACD7-217448E1EEC5@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >>> > I'd like to start a small business and design newsletters and
>> >> >> >>> > the
>> >> >> >>> > likes. I
>> >> >> >>> > read the EULA for the Publisher and there are issues that are
>> >> >> >>> > not
>> >> >> >>> > clear
>> >> >> >>> > yet.
>> >> >> >>> > I hope somebody can provide me with an explanation that can help
>> >> >> >>> > me
>> >> >> >>> > make a
>> >> >> >>> > decision: whether to use Publisher to produce my work or not.
>> >> >> >>> > I understand the copyright issue on the templates, but if you
>> >> >> >>> > modify
>> >> >> >>> > them,
>> >> >> >>> > using them as startpoint or frame work if you prefer, can I sell
>> >> >> >>> > them
>> >> >> >>> > to
>> >> >> >>> > my
>> >> >> >>> > prospects?
>> >> >> >>> > And if not, what about using the blank publication, and make a
>> >> >> >>> > design
>> >> >> >>> > from
>> >> >> >>> > scratch? Would that still be considered a template that cannot
>> >> >> >>> > be
>> >> >> >>> > sold?
>> >> >> >>> > And if all of the above fails and nothing can be sold, can you
>> >> >> >>> > suggest
>> >> >> >>> > any
>> >> >> >>> > software that would enable me to design publications and the
>> >> >> >>> > likes?
>> >> >> >>> > Thank you for your attention and time.
>> >> >> >>> > --
>> >> >> >>> > Shiva
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
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