Paul,
if you need a lawyer to interpret the EULA, on the top of the things to
learn when you buy a program, what's the point? Why not simplify users' life
by writing in a way that is easy to understand? Would this discussion take
place otherwise?
I do realize that the answers given in this forum do NOT come from
Microsoft, and even though some people might have a technical expertise
cannot answer every question, then may I suggest Microsoft provide support in
the field(s) not covered by the other "experts"? This would really be an
extraordinary service as part of the package coming with the software you buy.
--
Shiva
"Paul Ballou" wrote:
> Shiva,
> I never said she was incorrect or correct, My post was a question to
> ponder in regards to a statement in JoAnn's post....
>
> I made no reference to steal someone else's ideas ...The point I am making
> is a duplicate document can be create from scratch and still appear to look
> like one someone else created therefore how do you determine whether the
> document is an original or someone else's work...
>
> Any legal concerns you have on the commercial use of the program can only be
> answered by reading the EULA or contacting a legal professional to interpret
> the EULA for you...
>
> The only advice you can get on the Commercial use of a program from a News
> Group is an Opinion on use....
>
> If you can not use a blank document in a program to create a design for
> commercial use then you would need to question whether you can use a sheet
> of paper to design something for commercial use
>
> --
> Paul Ballou
> MVP Office
> http://office.microsoft.com/home
> http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/
> http://www.ballousgiftshop.com
>
>
>
> "Shiva" <Shiva@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C69C0AB6-1D43-4CB0-ABB9-E3617DEC4C34@microsoft.com...
> > Paul,
> > the real dilemma here is whether is possible to sell your own design by
> > using a blank document in the Publisher, not to steal somebody else's
> > ideas.
> > JoAnn is correct: if you want to be a designer, you should have,
> > hopefully,
> > plenty of ideas. But with all the limitations on the commercial use of the
> > Media included in the program, it's a tricky business to figure it out.
> > So,
> > it's helpful, if black on white, somebody says it's possible to use a
> > blank
> > document without incurring some kind of legal troubles. Sending the user
> > eternally back and forth the EULA doesn't really help. The forum gives an
> > opportunity to address specific issues that might answer the question that
> > thousands of people would like to ask.
> >
> > --
> > Shiva
> >
> >
> > "Paul Ballou" wrote:
> >
> >> JoAnn,
> >> Just a thought on what you are saying what if someone recreates a
> >> document from scratch and it resembles a previously created document by
> >> someone else? I personally believe templates are out there for people to
> >> use
> >> as a starting point or as is....If someone chooses not to modify it then
> >> that's the choice they make and as far as copyright goes it will be
> >> almost
> >> next to impossible to prove who did or didn't create the document. It is
> >> best to provide links to the info posted on MS site and not try to
> >> interpret
> >> any part except from an opinion point of view...
> >>
> >> --
> >> Paul Ballou
> >> MVP Office
> >> http://office.microsoft.com/home
> >> http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/
> >> http://www.ballousgiftshop.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "JoAnn Paules" <jl_paules@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:270274C6-F20E-43D0-AAD6-1333DEF08F6F@microsoft.com...
> >> > Starting with a blank document is fine. Like I said, it's not the use
> >> > of
> >> > the program, it's the content.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> > JoAnn Paules
> >> > Microsoft MVP - Publisher
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Shiva" <Shiva@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:0844D35C-4965-4513-897C-6111ABC8426A@microsoft.com...
> >> >> JoAnn,
> >> >> thanks for your promt reply and advise. I see what you're saying and
> >> >> the
> >> >> last thing I need is to have legal troubles because of a template. So,
> >> >> If
> >> >> I
> >> >> use the blank publication and the features offered by the Publisher to
> >> >> build
> >> >> one, can I sell this? or the blank publication is considered a
> >> >> template
> >> >> as
> >> >> well?
> >> >> You see it's hard to navigate the copyright world.
> >> >> Thanks.
> >> >> --
> >> >> Shiva
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "JoAnn Paules" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Shiva,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> As I stated before, you really need to speak to an attorney who is
> >> >>> familiar
> >> >>> with copyright laws. The sticking point isn't the program you are
> >> >>> using,
> >> >>> it's the work itself. If you start from a blank document, you're
> >> >>> fine.
> >> >>> It's
> >> >>> when you want to modify one of Microsoft's templates that starts to
> >> >>> cross
> >> >>> the line.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Imagine that you spend time creating a template, I buy it, move a few
> >> >>> things
> >> >>> and change the colors, and then sell it. How happy are you going to
> >> >>> be
> >> >>> about
> >> >>> the fact that I've just violated your copyrights and profitted from
> >> >>> your
> >> >>> work?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>>
> >> >>> JoAnn Paules
> >> >>> Microsoft MVP - Publisher
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Shiva" <Shiva@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:CA8617F4-DAD7-4598-ACD7-217448E1EEC5@microsoft.com...
> >> >>> > I'd like to start a small business and design newsletters and the
> >> >>> > likes. I
> >> >>> > read the EULA for the Publisher and there are issues that are not
> >> >>> > clear
> >> >>> > yet.
> >> >>> > I hope somebody can provide me with an explanation that can help me
> >> >>> > make a
> >> >>> > decision: whether to use Publisher to produce my work or not.
> >> >>> > I understand the copyright issue on the templates, but if you
> >> >>> > modify
> >> >>> > them,
> >> >>> > using them as startpoint or frame work if you prefer, can I sell
> >> >>> > them
> >> >>> > to
> >> >>> > my
> >> >>> > prospects?
> >> >>> > And if not, what about using the blank publication, and make a
> >> >>> > design
> >> >>> > from
> >> >>> > scratch? Would that still be considered a template that cannot be
> >> >>> > sold?
> >> >>> > And if all of the above fails and nothing can be sold, can you
> >> >>> > suggest
> >> >>> > any
> >> >>> > software that would enable me to design publications and the likes?
> >> >>> > Thank you for your attention and time.
> >> >>> > --
> >> >>> > Shiva
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
>