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Old 28-11-2007, 07:32 AM   #1
Sarah Brown
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iPod Touch and The Cloud


I signed up for The Cloud's 4 quid a month iPod Touch offer, and to be
honest I'm rather disappointed. The hotspots are all over the place,
but most of the ones I've tried so far don't give me an IP address -
the iPod just sits there with a 169.x.x.x address. Of the five
hotspots i've tried recently, I only got connectivity in Kings Cross
Station and a random pub in Cambridge. Most recent failure was today
at South Mimms services, where it just plain didn't work.

Anyone having similar experiences? I'm getting quite disillusioned,
and am starting to wonder if I'm better off spending my 4 quid a month
on bandwith from Vodafone.
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Old 28-11-2007, 04:30 PM   #2
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Re: iPod Touch and The Cloud

On 28 Nov, 02:32, Sarah Brown <sarahli...@ntlworld.no_uce_please.com>
wrote:
> I signed up for The Cloud's 4 quid a month iPod Touch offer, and to be
> honest I'm rather disappointed. The hotspots are all over the place,
> but most of the ones I've tried so far don't give me an IP address -
> the iPod just sits there with a 169.x.x.x address. Of the five
> hotspots i've tried recently, I only got connectivity in Kings Cross
> Station and a random pub in Cambridge. Most recent failure was today
> at South Mimms services, where it just plain didn't work.
>
> Anyone having similar experiences? I'm getting quite disillusioned,
> and am starting to wonder if I'm better off spending my 4 quid a month
> on bandwith from Vodafone.


posibly yes. depends on area, i and we have found the touch and apple
laptops to sometimes not work with some wifi spots. certianly the
moblie phone offers a better any where conection.

roger
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Old 28-11-2007, 04:30 PM   #3
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Re: iPod Touch and The Cloud

On 2007-11-28, roger merriman <rogermerriman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I signed up for The Cloud's 4 quid a month iPod Touch offer, and to be
>> honest I'm rather disappointed. The hotspots are all over the place,
>> but most of the ones I've tried so far don't give me an IP address -
>> the iPod just sits there with a 169.x.x.x address. Of the five
>> hotspots i've tried recently, I only got connectivity in Kings Cross
>> Station and a random pub in Cambridge. Most recent failure was today
>> at South Mimms services, where it just plain didn't work.
>>
>> Anyone having similar experiences? I'm getting quite disillusioned,
>> and am starting to wonder if I'm better off spending my 4 quid a month
>> on bandwith from Vodafone.

>
> posibly yes. depends on area, i and we have found the touch and apple
> laptops to sometimes not work with some wifi spots. certianly the
> moblie phone offers a better any where conection.


When I was testing the wireless on the Touch with random open hotspots, I
found it could sometimes take quite a long time to actually get a non-169 IP
address. Up to three minutes sometimes.

Jim
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Old 28-11-2007, 10:34 PM   #4
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Re: iPod Touch and The Cloud

In article <slrnfkqh1l.1sp2.jim@wotan.magrathea.local>,
Jim <jim@magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
>
>When I was testing the wireless on the Touch with random open hotspots, I
>found it could sometimes take quite a long time to actually get a non-169 IP
>address. Up to three minutes sometimes.


Hmm, wonder if it's an issue with the Touch's DHCP client then?

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Old 28-11-2007, 10:34 PM   #5
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Re: iPod Touch and The Cloud

On 2007-11-28, Sarah Brown <sarahlizzy@ntlworld.no_uce_please.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnfkqh1l.1sp2.jim@wotan.magrathea.local>,
> Jim <jim@magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
>>
>>When I was testing the wireless on the Touch with random open hotspots, I
>>found it could sometimes take quite a long time to actually get a non-169 IP
>>address. Up to three minutes sometimes.

>
> Hmm, wonder if it's an issue with the Touch's DHCP client then?


I never really narrowed down what the underlying cause was, but it did seem
that stabbing 'Renew Lease' had no observable effect. Might have been a
signal strength issue I suppose, or some routers that are a bit slow to
issue IPs. Or, as you say, the Touch's DHCP client.

Jim
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Old 28-11-2007, 11:36 PM   #6
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Re: iPod Touch and The Cloud

Jim <jim@magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> On 2007-11-28, Sarah Brown <sarahlizzy@ntlworld.no_uce_please.com> wrote:
> > In article <slrnfkqh1l.1sp2.jim@wotan.magrathea.local>,
> > Jim <jim@magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>When I was testing the wireless on the Touch with random open hotspots, I
> >>found it could sometimes take quite a long time to actually get a non-169 IP
> >>address. Up to three minutes sometimes.

> >
> > Hmm, wonder if it's an issue with the Touch's DHCP client then?

>
> I never really narrowed down what the underlying cause was, but it did seem
> that stabbing 'Renew Lease' had no observable effect. Might have been a
> signal strength issue I suppose, or some routers that are a bit slow to
> issue IPs. Or, as you say, the Touch's DHCP client.
>
> Jim


compared to the nokia 770 the touch and my powerbook are much more hit
and miss over hotspots. sometimes they get no IP sometimes they do but
nothing seems to get out...

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Old 29-11-2007, 12:35 AM   #7
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Re: iPod Touch and The Cloud

In article <slrnfkr63s.2ccp.jim@wotan.magrathea.local>,
Jim <jim@magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
>
>I never really narrowed down what the underlying cause was, but it did seem
>that stabbing 'Renew Lease' had no observable effect.


Yeah, I noticed that as well. Shame BTOpenZone is so expensive - the
Touch seems to have no trouble getting DHCP from those.

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Old 02-12-2007, 03:27 AM   #8
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Re: iPod Touch and The Cloud

On 28/11/2007, Jim wrote in message
<slrnfkqh1l.1sp2.jim@wotan.magrathea.local>:

> When I was testing the wireless on the Touch with random open hotspots, I
> found it could sometimes take quite a long time to actually get a non-
> 169 IP address. Up to three minutes sometimes.


Yes. I don't think we're actually getting any service from Cloud. When I
get my first bill from O2 I'm going to withhold payment, since the Cloud
service is part of what I'm paying for.

Simon.
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Old 02-12-2007, 03:27 AM   #9
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Re: iPod Touch and The Cloud

Sarah Brown <sarahlizzy@ntlworld.no_uce_please.com> wrote:

> Anyone having similar experiences?


Not with a touch, but with a MBP. There seems to be some serious problem
with "The Cloud". Even when I can connect, like in the Cafe Nero in the
Trafford Centre the connection was dropped several times. Rining their
tech support gets you the usual Indian call centre who ask you to tell
the hotspot host to turn the router off and then on again.

The last hotel I was in with "The Cloud" had the conenction down or over
a week and no one seemed to give a bugger about getting it going again.
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Old 04-12-2007, 09:28 AM   #10
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Re: iPod Touch and The Cloud

On 30/11/2007, Simon Slavin wrote in message
<fiq3io$9lb$2$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>:

> Yes. I don't think we're actually getting any service from Cloud.


In the interests of fairness, I report the following: yesterday, the day
after posting that, I tried it again and got a working Cloud connection
within 10 seconds.
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