Help needed in buying a Graphic Card

blntechie · 11-04-2008, 04:47 PM

I am looking for a good and less expensive Graphic card that can play most of the recent and forthcoming games. I can shell out 4.5k Rs. max. I'm not looking for a stunning graphics or high resolution game playing. I want a graphic card that can play games smoothly without any hiccups.

I also want to know what graphic card will be compatible for my system specification and motherboard. I'm not good in all these hardware stuffs. My brief system specification is Intel 845G Motherboard(is it the motherboard name? I don't know), Intel Pentium 4 Processor(2 Ghz.Please note: No HT),256 MB RAM(I'm ready to upgrade that to atleast 1GB). I want to know how to pickup a graphic card based on the slots also(I'm not understanding that too. I want to know how to find out that my motherboard supports PCIExpress or PCI cards or any other types like that).

If anyone wanna help me out and want detailed specifications of my system, please tell me a way to find my detailed system specification and i will post my specification tomorrow. Else if the given details are sufficient please help me buy a graphic card for my specification and my needs.

Thanks.

P.S:-Tried searching the forum for my need but it didn't served my purpose other than learning some new tech words

Update: On more searching,I am looking for cards that support DirectX 10 too!(if its the best and latest one as mentioned in sites)I hope someone can help me.

**Chef** · 12-04-2008, 05:48 PM

Are you wanting to buy a new graphics card to play the latest games or just some older games?

Chucking in a 8600GTS graphics card as an example to that current configuration won't improve much gaming or system performance as that system of your and its current level won't get any speed at all to playing newer games at high resolutions and settings even if you put in a 8800Ultra graphics card.....Just doesn't work that way...

You may want to get a new system or you can ask Baku or Strider for the latest and cheap graphics cards if your from India...cause I'm from Australia and the prices down here are very different to the prices there!

Rabid · 30-05-2008, 08:37 AM

You have an AGP slot if you see an oddly colored slot/socket that is usually near your CPU. And there is just one.

You have a PCI slot if you have 2 or more slots a bit farther from your CPU and close to each other.

Buy an AGP or PCI-Express card. PCI cards are the slowest of the 3.

Direct X10 only runs on Windows Vista and not on XP.

**Chef** · 30-05-2008, 06:15 PM

^^^ That information is only for noobs!

1mAn3rd · 31-05-2008, 07:31 PM

lol Matt, maybe blntechie doesn't know that much about computers o.O But yes, Rabid is right anywayz. PCI-Express is one of the fastest. That's what I used. In fact, when I recently upgraded my graphics card, I noticed that my old one had a lag... because it was in a normal PCI slot, but now I have one for PCI-Express. If you are going to be playing games like Crysis, then you're going to have to spend $300-$600. If not, I think I got my first graphics card for $150. Well, good luck...
~1mAn3rd

Hatrix · 31-05-2008, 10:59 PM

wow.. no way... i will recommand Geforce 7 series...
i have a 7300GT 512MB AGP got it for 80$ all games works on it ... not full resolution but works well with mid grfcs quality....
btw geforce 7600 is a very good and wise choice....
btw
nvidia is more comfortable with intle but ATI + AMD = gaming monster lol
i love ati for cheaps series tere is the ATI readon X800
and a Geforce 8 serie will be waist fo performance cuz 2GHz P4 and 256 RAM will limit the performance.... so having a 7300 ~ 7.600 will be good... and 79xx are expensive for it's performance...
does ur mb support 8x or 16x ??

1mAn3rd · 31-05-2008, 11:02 PM

o.O My old graphics card was a Geforce 8600GT and it got only 5 FPS on Crysis in medium graphics settings, and crashed on high. That's why I am not a big fan of the Geforce series at all...
And I have a mix of ATI and AMD. It's the best way to go for any computer.

**Chef** · 01-06-2008, 02:35 PM

TCO: Quote: "i love ati for cheaps series tere is the ATI readon X800"
ATI x800 series cards are not cheap....they are still expensive, like the X850XT PE is still 300$ and was one of the best back in fall 2005

Quote: "...and a Geforce 8 serie will be waist fo performance cuz 2GHz P4 and 256 RAM will limit the performance.... so having a 7300 ~ 7.600 will be good... and 79xx are expensive for it's performance..."

Even buying a 7600 will become a bottleneck due to the 2GHZ P4 and 256MB RAM lesser performance holding the true performance of a 7600 back...I'd recommend a 7300GT or a ATi X1650 PRO

also.....

Quote: "does ur mb support 8x or 16x ??"
If your talking about PCI-EXP then its always 16x bandwith...8x is only when you have a SLi mobo and your already using a graphics card, the 2nd PCI-EXP slot becomes 8x, also for some modern mobos...it is the 3rd PCI-EXP slot....and some other 3rd slots on some other mobos become a Physics type when a graphics card is installed....otherwise it is true 3-way SLi....

1man3rd: your 8600GT shouldn't be giving that low FPS performance...what res were you at? And also....my current 7500LE is doing 15-8 FPS at 640x480 Medium...my sold 8600GTS was about 36-40FPS and my new 9600GT is doing 40-43 at 1440x900 same quality as the above!

Also....Crysis was created on a nvidia SLi + Intel Quad Core Extreme System.....it was created on 2 8800 Ultras

1mAn3rd · 01-06-2008, 06:59 PM

I didn't know that... well, I am running on AMD Phenom x64 with a (I think) 22" high definition Dell monitor. I'm not in front of my computer right now, so I can't check... I'm using a friends. But as far as I know and from what I've seen from reviews, the 8600GT isn't really worth the money.

**Chef** · 02-06-2008, 03:31 AM

Yes thats true...becoz of the new cheap and high performance Ati 3870's and nvidia 9600 +, the old generation cards don't tend to look good value anymore!

To be honest Phenoms are that good. They may native 4x cores..but their low speed is the miss in their performance...as a E6850 can easily triumph it with ease in all areas....gaming, converting, performance and etc! When the Altair and Kumar technology AMD's come out, they should be a big improvement!

Its the low speed of Phenoms that pull back your graphics card from reaching top and its true performance!

11-04-2008, 04:47 PM	#1
blntechie Junior Member (25+) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Villupuram,TamilNadu Posts: 89 Thanks: 17 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts Rep Power: 0	Help needed in buying a Graphic Card I am looking for a good and less expensive Graphic card that can play most of the recent and forthcoming games. I can shell out 4.5k Rs. max. I'm not looking for a stunning graphics or high resolution game playing. I want a graphic card that can play games smoothly without any hiccups. I also want to know what graphic card will be compatible for my system specification and motherboard. I'm not good in all these hardware stuffs. My brief system specification is Intel 845G Motherboard(is it the motherboard name? I don't know), Intel Pentium 4 Processor(2 Ghz.Please note: No HT),256 MB RAM(I'm ready to upgrade that to atleast 1GB). I want to know how to pickup a graphic card based on the slots also(I'm not understanding that too. I want to know how to find out that my motherboard supports PCIExpress or PCI cards or any other types like that). If anyone wanna help me out and want detailed specifications of my system, please tell me a way to find my detailed system specification and i will post my specification tomorrow. Else if the given details are sufficient please help me buy a graphic card for my specification and my needs. Thanks. P.S:-Tried searching the forum for my need but it didn't served my purpose other than learning some new tech words Update: On more searching,I am looking for cards that support DirectX 10 too!(if its the best and latest one as mentioned in sites)I hope someone can help me. __________________ Friends,I welcome your comments on my blog to improve.It can be PMed or posted. Last edited by blntechie; 11-04-2008 at 05:10 PM..

12-04-2008, 05:48 PM	#2
Chef Hardware Support Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: C:/Program Files/Games/ Age: 17 Posts: 1,036 Thanks: 70 Thanked 57 Times in 54 Posts Rep Power: 14 OS:	Re: Help needed in buying a Graphic Card Are you wanting to buy a new graphics card to play the latest games or just some older games? Chucking in a 8600GTS graphics card as an example to that current configuration won't improve much gaming or system performance as that system of your and its current level won't get any speed at all to playing newer games at high resolutions and settings even if you put in a 8800Ultra graphics card.....Just doesn't work that way... You may want to get a new system or you can ask Baku or Strider for the latest and cheap graphics cards if your from India...cause I'm from Australia and the prices down here are very different to the prices there! __________________

30-05-2008, 08:37 AM	#3
Rabid Junior Member (25+) Join Date: May 2008 Age: 23 Posts: 25 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 0	Re: Help needed in buying a Graphic Card You have an AGP slot if you see an oddly colored slot/socket that is usually near your CPU. And there is just one. You have a PCI slot if you have 2 or more slots a bit farther from your CPU and close to each other. Buy an AGP or PCI-Express card. PCI cards are the slowest of the 3. Direct X10 only runs on Windows Vista and not on XP. __________________ FORMERLY KNOWN AS RAIE

30-05-2008, 06:15 PM	#4
Chef Hardware Support Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: C:/Program Files/Games/ Age: 17 Posts: 1,036 Thanks: 70 Thanked 57 Times in 54 Posts Rep Power: 14 OS:	Re: Help needed in buying a Graphic Card ^^^ That information is only for noobs!

31-05-2008, 07:31 PM	#5
1mAn3rd Advanced Member (250+) Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Guilford C Posts: 395 Thanks: 28 Thanked 21 Times in 21 Posts Rep Power: 5 OS:	Re: Help needed in buying a Graphic Card lol Matt, maybe blntechie doesn't know that much about computers o.O But yes, Rabid is right anywayz. PCI-Express is one of the fastest. That's what I used. In fact, when I recently upgraded my graphics card, I noticed that my old one had a lag... because it was in a normal PCI slot, but now I have one for PCI-Express. If you are going to be playing games like Crysis, then you're going to have to spend $300-$600. If not, I think I got my first graphics card for $150. Well, good luck... ~1mAn3rd __________________ --1mAn3rd

31-05-2008, 10:59 PM	#6
Hatrix Senior Member (500+) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tunisia Posts: 936 Thanks: 50 Thanked 57 Times in 53 Posts Rep Power: 22 OS:	Re: Help needed in buying a Graphic Card wow.. no way... i will recommand Geforce 7 series... i have a 7300GT 512MB AGP got it for 80$ all games works on it ... not full resolution but works well with mid grfcs quality.... btw geforce 7600 is a very good and wise choice.... btw nvidia is more comfortable with intle but ATI + AMD = gaming monster lol i love ati for cheaps series tere is the ATI readon X800 and a Geforce 8 serie will be waist fo performance cuz 2GHz P4 and 256 RAM will limit the performance.... so having a 7300 ~ 7.600 will be good... and 79xx are expensive for it's performance... does ur mb support 8x or 16x ?? __________________ Mawarebytes Ccleaner KillBox

31-05-2008, 11:02 PM	#7
1mAn3rd Advanced Member (250+) Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Guilford C Posts: 395 Thanks: 28 Thanked 21 Times in 21 Posts Rep Power: 5 OS:	Re: Help needed in buying a Graphic Card o.O My old graphics card was a Geforce 8600GT and it got only 5 FPS on Crysis in medium graphics settings, and crashed on high. That's why I am not a big fan of the Geforce series at all... And I have a mix of ATI and AMD. It's the best way to go for any computer. __________________ --1mAn3rd

01-06-2008, 02:35 PM	#8
Chef Hardware Support Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: C:/Program Files/Games/ Age: 17 Posts: 1,036 Thanks: 70 Thanked 57 Times in 54 Posts Rep Power: 14 OS:	Re: Help needed in buying a Graphic Card TCO: Quote: "i love ati for cheaps series tere is the ATI readon X800" ATI x800 series cards are not cheap....they are still expensive, like the X850XT PE is still 300$ and was one of the best back in fall 2005 Quote: "...and a Geforce 8 serie will be waist fo performance cuz 2GHz P4 and 256 RAM will limit the performance.... so having a 7300 ~ 7.600 will be good... and 79xx are expensive for it's performance..." Even buying a 7600 will become a bottleneck due to the 2GHZ P4 and 256MB RAM lesser performance holding the true performance of a 7600 back...I'd recommend a 7300GT or a ATi X1650 PRO also..... Quote: "does ur mb support 8x or 16x ??" If your talking about PCI-EXP then its always 16x bandwith...8x is only when you have a SLi mobo and your already using a graphics card, the 2nd PCI-EXP slot becomes 8x, also for some modern mobos...it is the 3rd PCI-EXP slot....and some other 3rd slots on some other mobos become a Physics type when a graphics card is installed....otherwise it is true 3-way SLi.... 1man3rd: your 8600GT shouldn't be giving that low FPS performance...what res were you at? And also....my current 7500LE is doing 15-8 FPS at 640x480 Medium...my sold 8600GTS was about 36-40FPS and my new 9600GT is doing 40-43 at 1440x900 same quality as the above! Also....Crysis was created on a nvidia SLi + Intel Quad Core Extreme System.....it was created on 2 8800 Ultras

01-06-2008, 06:59 PM	#9
1mAn3rd Advanced Member (250+) Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Guilford C Posts: 395 Thanks: 28 Thanked 21 Times in 21 Posts Rep Power: 5 OS:	Re: Help needed in buying a Graphic Card I didn't know that... well, I am running on AMD Phenom x64 with a (I think) 22" high definition Dell monitor. I'm not in front of my computer right now, so I can't check... I'm using a friends. But as far as I know and from what I've seen from reviews, the 8600GT isn't really worth the money. __________________ --1mAn3rd

02-06-2008, 03:31 AM	#10
Chef Hardware Support Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: C:/Program Files/Games/ Age: 17 Posts: 1,036 Thanks: 70 Thanked 57 Times in 54 Posts Rep Power: 14 OS:	Re: Help needed in buying a Graphic Card Yes thats true...becoz of the new cheap and high performance Ati 3870's and nvidia 9600 +, the old generation cards don't tend to look good value anymore! To be honest Phenoms are that good. They may native 4x cores..but their low speed is the miss in their performance...as a E6850 can easily triumph it with ease in all areas....gaming, converting, performance and etc! When the Altair and Kumar technology AMD's come out, they should be a big improvement! Its the low speed of Phenoms that pull back your graphics card from reaching top and its true performance!

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