Virgin Service Cheat

Bob Eager

On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 20:05:17 UTC, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

> The Bbmax one is one of the very best however.

How ridiculous...a speed test that requires Flash!

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Daffy Duck

On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:05:17 +0000, Eeyore wrote:

> Daffy Duck wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:35:40 -0000, Gonz wrote:
>>
>>> "Daffy Duck" <DD@DaffyDuck.com> wrote in message
>>> news:tarhcdaitsgi$.15ht9tjc0x5ra$.dlg@40tude.net.. .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't get any stutterin or slowdowns ever on youtube, and neither
>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>> a lot of others on other ISP's without the name Virgin in them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you implying that it's only customers of Virgin that ever get
>>>>>> slowdown
>>>>>> on youtube?
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably some on Orange, too.
>>>>
>>>> So it's just Virgin and Orange then....no one on any other ISP ever
>>>> has any
>>>> trouble with youtube.....you're seriously trying to claim that are
>>>> you?
>>>
>>> I'm readin it, that it's you that's makin that claim.
>>>
>>>>>> Just for info...i never get any stuttering or slowdown on youtube
>>>>>> either.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't believe you...
>>>>
>>>> Fine....i don't need your belief,i KNOW i never have any problems with
>>>> youtube.
>>>
>>> Any chance you can do a speedtest with me?
>>> Here's mine...
>>> Smack on as usual.
>>> http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/res...4455&v=2938212
>>
>> As i've already stated numerous times....web based speedtest are
>> unreliable.I prefer to test my speed by actually downloading something,
>> which i regularly do at my full 20 megs as the screenshots i posted earlier
>> in another thread show.
>
> SOME or even MOST web based speed test are unreliable. Or at least subject to
> certain vagaries.

So now you're admitting that at least most web based speedtest are
unreliable then.

> The Bbmax one is one of the very best however.
>
> So let's see your result.

The best of a bad and unreliable bunch is still bad and unreliable....just
slightly less so.
As i keep saying i test my speed by actually downloading....why don't you
try it sometime.OH..i forgot..you did..... posted about a d/load and you
got just over 6600kbs didn't you,somewhat less than the 97% of your BRAS
profile you claim to get on your speedtest site.What went wrong?

Gonz

"Daffy Duck" <DD@DaffyDuck.com> wrote in message
news:1lhf27qfiksct.1i547qtnqt6dh$.dlg@40tude.net.. .
> On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:16:14 +0000, Eeyore wrote:
>
>> max wrote:
>>
>>> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>> Daffy Duck wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just for info...i never get any stuttering or slowdown on youtube
>>>>> either.
>>>>
>>>> And you seriously expect anyone to believe you ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Well you seriously expect people to believe you?
>>> (Cue - shouting & swearing)
>>
>> The stupid duck deserves what he gets.
>>
>> As for my speed test results, I regularly post these and they are
>> readily authenticable.
>>
>> None of the Virgin apologists has ever posted an authentic speed test
>> result that matches their claims. Pictures of screenshots DON'T
>> count.
>> They could be anyone's.
>>
>> Graham
>
> Actually i did.....don't you remember Gonz complaining about the time
> it
> was done?.So once again you're wrong

Yeh, I remember.
You tried to fob us off with one that was taken months ago at 5am in the
mornin, when it was only you in your area usin the internet.
It was funny...

> As far as the screenshots could be anyones,so could your links to your
> speedtest results....they don't identify you on there do they?For
> instance
> here's one Gonz posted earlier
> http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/res...4455&v=2938212
> where on there does it prove it's his?...that could be anybodys as
> well.

The time and date is a good clue to it bein mine.

> Unlike you tho,i'm not accusing anyone of falsifying results as i
> believe they're genuine,the same as my screenshots are.

The one that you kept on your hard drive, that was done months ago at
5am in the mornin, when it was only you in your area usin the internet.

Gonz

"Daffy Duck" <DD@DaffyDuck.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:07:31 -0000, Gonz wrote:
>
>> "Daffy Duck" <DD@DaffyDuck.com> wrote in message
>> news:es6hcaa50b3j$.1ejuzu0jskqfz.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 18:03:32 +0000, Eeyore wrote:
>>>
>>>> Daffy Duck wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just for info...i never get any stuttering or slowdown on youtube
>>>>> either.
>>>>
>>>> And you seriously expect anyone to believe you ?
>>>>
>>>> Graham
>>>
>>> Yes i do...rather more so than anyone would believe you.After all
>>> you
>>> wrote
>>> this on the 28th at 12:02:28 in the thread titled Virgin
>>> Meida(tUMAz)
>>> in a
>>> reply to Gonz's reply to one of my posts
>>>
>>> "Do you indeed ? I killfiled that idiot duck apologist for VM."
>>> Message-ID: <474D58D5.D09F898E@hotmail.com>
>>>
>>> So,according to you i'm killfiled but here you are replying to
>>> me......LMFAO.
>>
>> Ah... you see, he's formatted his computer since then.
>> Yeh, I remember him tellin me.
>
> Yeah...of course he did....what a lame excuse,surely you could have
> thought
> of a better one than that.
>
>
>>> Once again YOU are caught lying....you never killfiled me,you just
>>> pretended to so as to avoid answering some question i put.
>>
>> Was the word bum in that question that he avoided in givin an answer
>> to?
>
> Lets see shall we....in the discussion about web based speed test
> which i
> claimed were unreliable because a busy speedtest server could give a
> false
> result Eeyore replied
> "Yes it COULD. But it DOESN'T in practice."
> So i asked if he was saying that even if a speedtest server is too
> busy
> you'll still ge an accurate result to which he replied
> "I suggest you try http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/ regularly.
>
> I've never noticed a serious fall-off in reported speed."
> Notice no bum in the question and no answer in the reply.
> Later in the same thread i asked
> "ALways?...what about the test posted today in the Idnet thread?,thats
> not
> 97%...so..tell me where the problem is...is it Idnet,a router
> somewhere in
> the chain to the speedtest server or is it the speedtest server
> itself.I'll
> give you a clue...you have no idea."
> Again no bum in the question and no answer either.
> In the thread entitled Virgin speed update Eeyore posted this
> "Illustrates very well that Virgin doesn't have enough internet
> connectivity." in response to a bad speedtest result.I posted
> "It could equally well indicate a busy speedtest server.How do you
> KNOW
> that's not the case?...and i do mean KNOW not just an assumption.I
> look
> forward to you posting your evidence that it definitely wasn't the
> speedtest server that was busy.If you don't have that evidence then
> it's
> just more hot air from you,just opinion stated as fact."
> Once again no reply or bum in the question.
> Do you have any other stupid comments to make...if you do i suggest
> you fix
> the g on your keyboard first as it doesn't seem to work correctly with
> words like tellin(g) and givin(g)

ZZZZzzzzzzzz

Gonz

"Daffy Duck" <DD@DaffyDuck.com> wrote in message
news:qloeh87orbrd$.1b274fzenixwz.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:19:47 +0000, Eeyore wrote:
>
>> Daffy Duck wrote:
>>
>>> Eeyore wrote:
>>>> Daffy Duck wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just for info...i never get any stuttering or slowdown on youtube
>>>>> either.
>>>>
>>>> And you seriously expect anyone to believe you ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes i do...rather more so than anyone would believe you.After all
>>> you wrote
>>> this on the 28th at 12:02:28 in the thread titled Virgin
>>> Meida(tUMAz) in a
>>> reply to Gonz's reply to one of my posts
>>>
>>> "Do you indeed ? I killfiled that idiot duck apologist for VM."
>>> Message-ID: <474D58D5.D09F898E@hotmail.com>
>>>
>>> So,according to you i'm killfiled but here you are replying to
>>> me......LMFAO.
>>> Once again YOU are caught lying....you never killfiled me,you just
>>> pretended to so as to avoid answering some question i put.
>>>
>>> PS: It's generally regarded as a good idea to remember what you've
>>> posted
>>> earlier.
>>
>> Actually, this is a new installation on a different PC, and I haven't
>> yet loaded
>> the killfile support for Netscape. Plus the killfile will be empty
>> even when I
>> do load it.
>>
>> Sorry to disappoint you so but you're completely wrong as usual.
>>
>> Graham
>
> You and Gonz need to get your story straight....according to him
> "Ah... you see, he's formatted his computer since then.
> Yeh, I remember him tellin me."
> So which is it...did you reformat,as Gonz said you told him, or is it
> a
> different PC?

It's his other PC.

Gonz

"Daffy Duck" <DD@DaffyDuck.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> Any chance you can do a speedtest with me?
>> Here's mine...
>> Smack on as usual.
>> http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/res...4455&v=2938212
>
> As i've already stated numerous times....web based speedtest are
> unreliable.

So why do I always get full speed on em, then?
Is it cuz I'm on BE and you're on Virgin Media?

Gonz

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:47530FFD.15A6B77F@hotmail.com...
>
>
> Daffy Duck wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:35:40 -0000, Gonz wrote:
>>
>> > "Daffy Duck" <DD@DaffyDuck.com> wrote in message
>> > news:tarhcdaitsgi$.15ht9tjc0x5ra$.dlg@40tude.net.. .
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> I don't get any stutterin or slowdowns ever on youtube, and
>> >>>>> neither
>> >>>>> does
>> >>>>> a lot of others on other ISP's without the name Virgin in them.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Are you implying that it's only customers of Virgin that ever
>> >>>> get
>> >>>> slowdown
>> >>>> on youtube?
>> >>>
>> >>> Probably some on Orange, too.
>> >>
>> >> So it's just Virgin and Orange then....no one on any other ISP
>> >> ever
>> >> has any
>> >> trouble with youtube.....you're seriously trying to claim that are
>> >> you?
>> >
>> > I'm readin it, that it's you that's makin that claim.
>> >
>> >>>> Just for info...i never get any stuttering or slowdown on
>> >>>> youtube
>> >>>> either.
>> >>>
>> >>> I don't believe you...
>> >>
>> >> Fine....i don't need your belief,i KNOW i never have any problems
>> >> with
>> >> youtube.
>> >
>> > Any chance you can do a speedtest with me?
>> > Here's mine...
>> > Smack on as usual.
>> > http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/res...4455&v=2938212
>>
>> As i've already stated numerous times....web based speedtest are
>> unreliable.I prefer to test my speed by actually downloading
>> something,
>> which i regularly do at my full 20 megs as the screenshots i posted
>> earlier
>> in another thread show.
>
> SOME or even MOST web based speed test are unreliable. Or at least
> subject to
> certain vagaries.
>
> The Bbmax one is one of the very best however.
>
> So let's see your result.

I don't see the problem with why he can't post one.
I can only assume it's that bad.

Gonz

"Bob Eager" <rde42@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:176uZD2KcidF-pn2-jTjcuWXf3cn7@rikki.tavi.co.uk...
> On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 20:05:17 UTC, Eeyore
> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The Bbmax one is one of the very best however.
>
> How ridiculous...a speed test that requires Flash!

LOL
You say that as if you haven't said it before.

Daffy Duck

>>>> So,according to you i'm killfiled but here you are replying to
>>>> me......LMFAO.
>>>> Once again YOU are caught lying....you never killfiled me,you just
>>>> pretended to so as to avoid answering some question i put.
>>>>
>>>> PS: It's generally regarded as a good idea to remember what you've posted
>>>> earlier.
>>>
>>> Actually, this is a new installation on a different PC, and I haven't yet loaded
>>> the killfile support for Netscape. Plus the killfile will be empty even when I
>>> do load it.
>>>
>>> Sorry to disappoint you so but you're completely wrong as usual.
>>
>> You and Gonz need to get your story straight....according to him
>> "Ah... you see, he's formatted his computer since then.
>> Yeh, I remember him tellin me."
>> So which is it...did you reformat,as Gonz said you told him, or is it a
>> different PC?
>
> It's a different PC. An Athlon powered one instead of a Pentium. I'll be building
> another one soon too. He has no knowledge of this one.

So..did you tell Gonz you'd reformatted or not?

> However since I'm running the same OS and news application, there's no way you can
> tell from the headers.
>
> Graham

That's very convenient for you isn't it.
It's also rather strange that,considering you'd supposedly killfiled me,you
didn't do so again on your "new PC" instead of replying.

Eeyore

Bob Eager wrote:

> Eeyore wrote:
>
> > The Bbmax one is one of the very best however.
>
> How ridiculous...a speed test that requires Flash!

Lots of stuff on the net requires Flash. Notably Youtube. It works.

Problem ?

Graham