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Mark McIntyre

wrote:

> No it's not people have a right to find fault with VM

No they don't. Nobody has a *right* to find fault with anyone or
anything. What a pathetic remark.

> as VM get worse with every day that passes

In your opion, in your experience. Neither of which are universally
borne out.

And before you say it, no. And I'm sure people wonder whether you have
any undeclared affiliations yourself.

Mark McIntyre

{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:

> Is there nothing about VM you won't defend, no matter how stupid or
> wrong it is.

For strict reference, carl DID NOT DEFEND VM. Naturally however, the
anti-VM brigade can't bear to have one of their own contradicted or
proven wrong.

> Your VM FanBoy antics are pathetic really!

And you anti-VM fanboys are somehow better?

Silly prat.

Mark McIntyre

xpuser wrote:
>
> fair point, but still after the 12 months are up, you will leave.

AFAIK mymail is well outside his contract. He could leave anytime.

>Surely VM are taking
> note of the customer churn, so are doing something about it.

Depends on the numbers I guess. Churn of service abusers, serial whiners
and general nuisances is typically not an issue for companies tho!

> Surely if the service was as bad a some people make out,
> people would be leaving in droves. The counter argument would be if the
> service was as good as other people are making out, then they would have
> people joining in droves as well.

Both arguments are valid. Since neither thing is happening, one has to
assume the service is merely ok - or that choice is so large and the
market so saturated that people really don't care that much.

Mark McIntyre

wrote:

> No it's not people have a right to find fault with VM

No they don't. Nobody has a *right* to find fault with anyone or
anything. What a pathetic remark.

> as VM get worse with every day that passes

In your opion, in your experience. Neither of which are universally
borne out.

And before you say it, no. And I'm sure people wonder whether you have
any undeclared affiliations yourself.

Mark McIntyre

{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:

> Is there nothing about VM you won't defend, no matter how stupid or
> wrong it is.

For strict reference, carl DID NOT DEFEND VM. Naturally however, the
anti-VM brigade can't bear to have one of their own contradicted or
proven wrong.

> Your VM FanBoy antics are pathetic really!

And you anti-VM fanboys are somehow better?

Silly prat.

Mark McIntyre

xpuser wrote:
>
> fair point, but still after the 12 months are up, you will leave.

AFAIK mymail is well outside his contract. He could leave anytime.

>Surely VM are taking
> note of the customer churn, so are doing something about it.

Depends on the numbers I guess. Churn of service abusers, serial whiners
and general nuisances is typically not an issue for companies tho!

> Surely if the service was as bad a some people make out,
> people would be leaving in droves. The counter argument would be if the
> service was as good as other people are making out, then they would have
> people joining in droves as well.

Both arguments are valid. Since neither thing is happening, one has to
assume the service is merely ok - or that choice is so large and the
market so saturated that people really don't care that much.

Mark McIntyre

xpuser wrote:
>
> fair point, but still after the 12 months are up, you will leave.

AFAIK mymail is well outside his contract. He could leave anytime.

>Surely VM are taking
> note of the customer churn, so are doing something about it.

Depends on the numbers I guess. Churn of service abusers, serial whiners
and general nuisances is typically not an issue for companies tho!

> Surely if the service was as bad a some people make out,
> people would be leaving in droves. The counter argument would be if the
> service was as good as other people are making out, then they would have
> people joining in droves as well.

Both arguments are valid. Since neither thing is happening, one has to
assume the service is merely ok - or that choice is so large and the
market so saturated that people really don't care that much.

alexd

Mark McIntyre wrote:

> wrote:

>> as VM get worse with every day that passes
>
> In your opion, in your experience. Neither of which are universally
> borne out.
>
> And before you say it, no. And I'm sure people wonder whether you have
> any undeclared affiliations yourself.

He probably works for Sipgate.

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{{{{{Welcome}}}}}

Mark McIntyre wrote:
> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
>
>> Is there nothing about VM you won't defend, no matter how stupid or
>> wrong it is.
>
> For strict reference, carl DID NOT DEFEND VM. Naturally however, the
> anti-VM brigade can't bear to have one of their own contradicted or
> proven wrong.
>
>> Your VM FanBoy antics are pathetic really!
>
> And you anti-VM fanboys are somehow better?
>
> Silly prat.


I'm not anti-VM at all (I have all 4 of their services), but Carl does
defend some of the stupidest things VM do.

Maybe you don't see all the posts he makes in the closed VM Newsgroups us VM
customers do.

Now you've made a right prat of yourself there!

Silly Moron

{{{{{Welcome}}}}}

Carl Waring wrote:
> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
>> Carl Waring wrote:
>>> Gonz wrote:
>>>> "Offer ends: 30.11.07"
>>>>
>>>> Can we have them for lyin, if the offer isn't actually an offer,
>>>> and it doesn't actually end anyway?
>>>> It's always that price, and will not be changed after the 30.11.07.
>>>
>>> Is there *anything at all* you /won't/ try and find fault with with
>>> VM? It's pathetic, really!
>>
>>
>> Is there nothing about VM you won't defend, no matter how stupid or
>> wrong it is.
>>
>> Your VM FanBoy antics are pathetic really!
>
> Oh yeah. Nice school-boy-style comeback, {W} :-/


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