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Unread 08-12-2007, 02:55 AM   #61
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Re: 'hacking' a Sky router

On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 20:03:08 +0000 PeterT
from the village of peter.thomas8899@googlemail.com
felt we might be interested in the following...


> Not as far as I know - I assume that they are usable by any Sky ADSL
> user - although that would best be checked out prior to sale or
> purchase.


Well, as I said, I have 2 Netgears here that will cost me nothing to
configure, which I will do, eventually. Thanks anyway...

> Probably more chance of a Sky configured router working than a hacked
> Netgear one I would have thought.


No idea.

> Srtill I expect someone will be along soon to confirm or otherwise if
> a Sky router is easily used by anyone!!


No doubt.

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Unread 08-12-2007, 02:55 AM   #62
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Re: 'hacking' a Sky router

On Dec 6, 8:03 pm, PeterT <peter.thomas8...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:11:09 -0000, /Tx2
>
> <noreplies.use...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 17:24:20 +0000 PeterT
> >from the village of peter.thomas8...@googlemail.com
> >felt we might be interested in the following...

>
> >> I've a spare Sky router, brand new, unused, still with the original
> >> wrapping etc. let me know if you're interested in making me an offer.

>
> >Thanks, but I also have 2 spare Netgear's here (non-sky) and don't see
> >that getting a Sky configured router will help. It will be configured
> >for the original Sky user, surely, and I'll be in the self same
> >position?

>
> Not as far as I know - I assume that they are usable by any Sky ADSL
> user - although that would best be checked out prior to sale or
> purchase.
>
> >I'm just keen to get another router up and running in case one goes ****
> >up, which will save me downtime waiting for Sky to replace it.

>
> Probably more chance of a Sky configured router working than a hacked
> Netgear one I would have thought.
>
> Srtill I expect someone will be along soon to confirm or otherwise if
> a Sky router is easily used by anyone!!


Indeed. A Sky broadband customer can use any Sky router.
 
Unread 08-12-2007, 02:56 AM   #63
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Re: 'hacking' a Sky router

On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 22:00:17 -0000 tony h
from the village of me@home.com
felt we might be interested in the following...


> i'm happily using one, and i never had sky!


What did you have to do to get it to work on your ISP connection?
You must have surely had to hack it to change the username/password?
And, as far as I know, to change those, you would have had to flash the
router firmware?

Perhaps you'll share your experience?

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Unread 08-12-2007, 02:56 AM   #64
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Re: 'hacking' a Sky router

On Dec 6, 8:03 pm, PeterT <peter.thomas8...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:11:09 -0000, /Tx2
>
> <noreplies.use...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 17:24:20 +0000 PeterT
> >from the village of peter.thomas8...@googlemail.com
> >felt we might be interested in the following...

>
> >> I've a spare Sky router, brand new, unused, still with the original
> >> wrapping etc. let me know if you're interested in making me an offer.

>
> >Thanks, but I also have 2 spare Netgear's here (non-sky) and don't see
> >that getting a Sky configured router will help. It will be configured
> >for the original Sky user, surely, and I'll be in the self same
> >position?

>
> Not as far as I know - I assume that they are usable by any Sky ADSL
> user - although that would best be checked out prior to sale or
> purchase.
>
> >I'm just keen to get another router up and running in case one goes ****
> >up, which will save me downtime waiting for Sky to replace it.

>
> Probably more chance of a Sky configured router working than a hacked
> Netgear one I would have thought.
>
> Srtill I expect someone will be along soon to confirm or otherwise if
> a Sky router is easily used by anyone!!


Indeed. A Sky broadband customer can use any Sky router.
 
Unread 08-12-2007, 02:56 AM   #65
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Re: 'hacking' a Sky router


On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 22:47:49 -0000, /Tx2
<noreplies.usenet@googlemail.com> wrote:

>What did you have to do to get it to work on your ISP connection?
>You must have surely had to hack it to change the username/password?
>And, as far as I know, to change those, you would have had to flash the
>router firmware?
>
>Perhaps you'll share your experience?



I had to change mine recently when I switched from sky connect to
adsl24. I upgraded to v1.02.09. The latest revision now is 1.02.13 but
I'll assume the procedure is similar

http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/DG834GT.asp

As well as downloading the revised firmware, you also need the
recovery utility (also linked on the above page)

Before running the recovery utility, power down the router and power
back on while depressing the reset point on the back with a pencil or
similar item. Two of the lights will flash on and off in opposite
sequence. Then run the recovery utility following the instructions on
screen.

When complete, I was expecting the default username and password to be
as per the netgear default but it wasn't. It was admin and sky as per
the original sky default. That threw me for a while.

I have to say, if you have a very poor line like mine it's definitely
worth doing irrespective of switching from or staying with sky.

Version 1.02.09 holds onto really low SNR margins very tenaciously and
my bras profile is now generally 512k whereas previously it was 350k


Jim.

 
Unread 08-12-2007, 02:57 AM   #66
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Re: 'hacking' a Sky router


On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 22:47:49 -0000, /Tx2
<noreplies.usenet@googlemail.com> wrote:

>What did you have to do to get it to work on your ISP connection?
>You must have surely had to hack it to change the username/password?
>And, as far as I know, to change those, you would have had to flash the
>router firmware?
>
>Perhaps you'll share your experience?



I had to change mine recently when I switched from sky connect to
adsl24. I upgraded to v1.02.09. The latest revision now is 1.02.13 but
I'll assume the procedure is similar

http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/DG834GT.asp

As well as downloading the revised firmware, you also need the
recovery utility (also linked on the above page)

Before running the recovery utility, power down the router and power
back on while depressing the reset point on the back with a pencil or
similar item. Two of the lights will flash on and off in opposite
sequence. Then run the recovery utility following the instructions on
screen.

When complete, I was expecting the default username and password to be
as per the netgear default but it wasn't. It was admin and sky as per
the original sky default. That threw me for a while.

I have to say, if you have a very poor line like mine it's definitely
worth doing irrespective of switching from or staying with sky.

Version 1.02.09 holds onto really low SNR margins very tenaciously and
my bras profile is now generally 512k whereas previously it was 350k


Jim.

 
Unread 08-12-2007, 02:57 AM   #67
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Re: 'hacking' a Sky router



>>
>>Perhaps you'll share your experience?



I should have added that prior to leaving sky I entered my sky
username / password combination into my old origo router as a backup
just in case the netgear ever went down. It worked fine with no other
additional configuration required than the username and password. It
was already set to use VPI/VCI of 0 and 38 and G.dmt modulation
required for sky connect. I don't know what these should be if you're
fortunate enough to miss out BT and connect direct to sky's own kit.


Jim.

 
Unread 08-12-2007, 02:58 AM   #68
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Re: 'hacking' a Sky router


"/Tx2" <noreplies.usenet@googlemail.com> wrote in message news:MPG.21c0ff7ba7fa8dd49897e5@News.Individual.NE T...
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> I've been to http://dg834gt.mognuts.com/NetgearRouterUtility.html and
> gone through the motions to get my Sky username/password combo to try
> and configure my own Netgear router (DG834 i think it is) but I cannot
> get my router to connect no matter what.
>
> Am I missing something? I've simply put the u/p into the new router, but
> it refuses to connect to Sky.
>
> Is there another field I need to be filling in to get it to connect?
>
>

The passwod and username would probably be case sensitive. If you copy & pasted
them make sure you didn't include any leading or trailing spaces.

You would need to set Encapsulation to PPPoA
Get IP address dynamically from ISP, automatic DNS.
Multiplexing VC-based
VPI=0
VCI=38

Other than that all I can suggest is try spoofing the working router's WAN (ADSL-port) MAC address.
To do that on a Netgear, under basic settings temporarily select "no" for does your connection
require a login, enter the MAC in the router's mac field, click apply, then re-select "yes" for your
connection requires a login and apply again. However as far as I know this is not necessary for Sky.




 
Unread 08-12-2007, 02:58 AM   #69
James Egan
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Re: 'hacking' a Sky router



>>
>>Perhaps you'll share your experience?



I should have added that prior to leaving sky I entered my sky
username / password combination into my old origo router as a backup
just in case the netgear ever went down. It worked fine with no other
additional configuration required than the username and password. It
was already set to use VPI/VCI of 0 and 38 and G.dmt modulation
required for sky connect. I don't know what these should be if you're
fortunate enough to miss out BT and connect direct to sky's own kit.


Jim.

 
Unread 08-12-2007, 02:58 AM   #70
Mel
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Re: 'hacking' a Sky router


"/Tx2" <noreplies.usenet@googlemail.com> wrote in message news:MPG.21c0ff7ba7fa8dd49897e5@News.Individual.NE T...
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> I've been to http://dg834gt.mognuts.com/NetgearRouterUtility.html and
> gone through the motions to get my Sky username/password combo to try
> and configure my own Netgear router (DG834 i think it is) but I cannot
> get my router to connect no matter what.
>
> Am I missing something? I've simply put the u/p into the new router, but
> it refuses to connect to Sky.
>
> Is there another field I need to be filling in to get it to connect?
>
>

The passwod and username would probably be case sensitive. If you copy & pasted
them make sure you didn't include any leading or trailing spaces.

You would need to set Encapsulation to PPPoA
Get IP address dynamically from ISP, automatic DNS.
Multiplexing VC-based
VPI=0
VCI=38

Other than that all I can suggest is try spoofing the working router's WAN (ADSL-port) MAC address.
To do that on a Netgear, under basic settings temporarily select "no" for does your connection
require a login, enter the MAC in the router's mac field, click apply, then re-select "yes" for your
connection requires a login and apply again. However as far as I know this is not necessary for Sky.




 
 

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