8Mb broadband

Bill Ridgeway

Is it possible, better still does anyone actually get anywhere near an 8Mb
broadband connection? I'd guess you'd have to live next to a telephone
exchange.

What's the situation with cable suppliers?

Regards.

Bill Ridgeway

Gonz

"Bill Ridgeway" <.uk> wrote in message
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> Is it possible, better still does anyone actually get anywhere near an
> 8Mb broadband connection? I'd guess you'd have to live next to a
> telephone exchange.

I got 6Mb on normal ADSL, and I don't live next to the exchange.

> What's the situation with cable suppliers?

Virgin Media?
Bloody awful.

Eeyore

Bill Ridgeway wrote:

> Is it possible, better still does anyone actually get anywhere near an 8Mb
> broadband connection? I'd guess you'd have to live next to a telephone
> exchange.

I have an 8128 kbps sync with a 7150 kbps profile which is the best you can
get with BT supplying the equipment.

I'm about 800 m from the exchange as the crow flies. A BT engineer once
mentioned a line length of 1.5 miles. That seems to be about right for getting
the max from BT's maxdsl.

Graham

Daffy Duck

On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 18:22:54 -0000, Gonz wrote:

> "Carl Waring" <.uk> wrote in message
> news:K_f6j.793$.net...
>> Bill Ridgeway wrote:
>>> Is it possible, better still does anyone actually get anywhere near
>>> an 8Mb broadband connection? I'd guess you'd have to live next to a
>>> telephone exchange.
>>>
>>> What's the situation with cable suppliers?
>>>
>>
>> While cable doesn't work the same way and distance from an exchange
>> does matter and you are /more likely/ to get a faster speed.
>
> Can you have a look at this, and sort it out so someone other than
> yourself can understand it.
> The way it reads is, the distance from the cable exchange does matter.
>
>> and you are /more likely/ to get a faster speed.
>
> The only reason you don't get the speed, is cuz they have signed too
> many people up to the service in each area, and as a result there is not
> enuff bandwidth to share amongst everyone.
> So in order for everyone to get at least 35kbps each, they have to limit
> everyone and share it all out between them all.
>
> Completely different to how ADSL works...

Maybe you'd like to produce some evidence to back up your claim that
"everyone" gets limited so that everyone can get at least 35kbs.

alexd

Bill Ridgeway wrote:

> Is it possible, better still does anyone actually get anywhere near an 8Mb
> broadband connection? I'd guess you'd have to live next to a telephone
> exchange.

You guess wrong. I had Griffin [BT IPstream] which synced up at 8128k, and I
live about 1.5km from the exchange [DMT says 1300-2900m]. I got about
3-5Mbps through. I'm on Be now, syncing at 15.2Mbps and getting about
13Mbps through [from sites like ftp.uk.debian.org, ie real world usage, not
speed tests]. Given that Griffin themselves say "Our experience is that
BT?s network is over-engineered and uncongested",

> What's the situation with cable suppliers?

Until Oct 2006 I had Blueyonder 10M cable which performed flawlessly.
Judging by the amount of pissing and moaning in here, things have gone
downhill since NTL took over.

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Brian McIlwrath

Bill Ridgeway <.uk> wrote:
: Is it possible, better still does anyone actually get anywhere near an 8Mb
: broadband connection? I'd guess you'd have to live next to a telephone
: exchange.

I get a 7000bps sync rate (~6Mb download) with Sky's LLU broadband - which
does not seem to have the same rate "profiles" that BT's version has.

This is about 3km from the exchange at an attenuation of 45dB. When ADSL
started BT said that I would get nothing more than 1Mb!

Meggahurtz

"Bill Ridgeway" <.uk> wrote in message
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> Is it possible, better still does anyone actually get anywhere near an 8Mb
> broadband connection? I'd guess you'd have to live next to a telephone
> exchange.
>

I live about 1/4 mile away and I get full 8mb!

When I was with Virgin Media (Cable) I was lucky to get 3-4mb on 20mb
connection.

Roll on the SKY LLU which is happening here in the next 2 months ;0)

> What's the situation with cable suppliers?
>

Pah

Nigel Cliffe

Brian McIlwrath wrote:
> Bill Ridgeway <.uk> wrote:
>> Is it possible, better still does anyone actually get anywhere near
>> an 8Mb broadband connection? I'd guess you'd have to live next to a
>> telephone exchange.
>
> I get a 7000bps sync rate (~6Mb download) with Sky's LLU broadband -
> which does not seem to have the same rate "profiles" that BT's
> version has.

Different kit.
Next provider to update their kit in the exchange and the technical lead on
that exchange will swap around.


> This is about 3km from the exchange at an attenuation of 45dB. When
> ADSL started BT said that I would get nothing more than 1Mb!


And the year before ADSL, you got 44Kb on dial up. Its called progress,
things get better as the technology improves :-)




- Nigel

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xpuser

"Brian McIlwrath" <.rl.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> Bill Ridgeway <.uk> wrote:
> : Is it possible, better still does anyone actually get anywhere near an
> 8Mb
> : broadband connection? I'd guess you'd have to live next to a telephone
> : exchange.
>
> I get a 7000bps sync rate (~6Mb download) with Sky's LLU broadband - which
> does not seem to have the same rate "profiles" that BT's version has.
>
> This is about 3km from the exchange at an attenuation of 45dB. When ADSL
> started BT said that I would get nothing more than 1Mb!

I am with sky's LLU service as well, get on average approx 6Mb download as
well. I live around 1.5km from my exchange according to SAM.

Gonz

"Daffy Duck" <> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 18:22:54 -0000, Gonz wrote:
>
>> "Carl Waring" <.uk> wrote in message
>> news:K_f6j.793$.net...
>>> Bill Ridgeway wrote:
>>>> Is it possible, better still does anyone actually get anywhere near
>>>> an 8Mb broadband connection? I'd guess you'd have to live next to
>>>> a
>>>> telephone exchange.
>>>>
>>>> What's the situation with cable suppliers?
>>>>
>>>
>>> While cable doesn't work the same way and distance from an exchange
>>> does matter and you are /more likely/ to get a faster speed.
>>
>> Can you have a look at this, and sort it out so someone other than
>> yourself can understand it.
>> The way it reads is, the distance from the cable exchange does
>> matter.
>>
>>> and you are /more likely/ to get a faster speed.
>>
>> The only reason you don't get the speed, is cuz they have signed too
>> many people up to the service in each area, and as a result there is
>> not
>> enuff bandwidth to share amongst everyone.
>> So in order for everyone to get at least 35kbps each, they have to
>> limit
>> everyone and share it all out between them all.
>>
>> Completely different to how ADSL works...
>
> Maybe you'd like to produce some evidence to back up your claim that
> "everyone" gets limited so that everyone can get at least 35kbs.

You're not too busy, provide some evidence that they don't.