Anyone use Be broadband?

Bob Eager

On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 10:36:16 UTC, Eeyore
<> wrote:

> Daffy Duck wrote:
>
> > > The maximum download rate possible with BT's max dsl is 7150 kbps when you have
> > > an 8128 kbps sync. Which is what I have.
> >
> > So ALL ADSL suppliers,including Idnet,are misleading with their advertising
> > then
>
> Yes.

No. Look at the AAISP web site, front page, at:

Look at top right, where it says 'up to 8Mb/s', and click on the link
('Max').

They then have a long section about what speed you may actually get, and
an explanation (and link to a table) of the difference between sync rate
and IP rate.

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Andy Burns

On 09/12/2007 09:23, Daffy Duck wrote:

> So ALL ADSL suppliers,including Idnet,are misleading with their advertising
> then because,according to you,no one can get the 8meg they advertise.

One of the better explanations of why that is correct can be found here

Tackle

"bornfree" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I am thinking about moving to them when my contract is up... if you
> use them could you share your opinion on the service (and the tech
> support)?

Best move I made, Installing supplied router was straight forward. 16 meg
connection downloading at a constant 1.78Mb/sec. Full DVD in 45min.

Highly recommended

Roy

Andy Burns

On 09/12/2007 10:40, Bob Eager wrote:

> They then have a long section about what speed you may actually get, and
> an explanation (and link to a table) of the difference between sync rate
> and IP rate.

Then for any protocol a home user is likely to use, you'll have at least
a 2% TCP overhead, then re-transmissions from the occasioanal dropped
packet and you'd better throttle your upload rate or waiting for ACKs
will slow your downloads.

Bob Eager

On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 11:07:52 UTC, Andy Burns
<.uk> wrote:

> On 09/12/2007 10:40, Bob Eager wrote:
>
> > They then have a long section about what speed you may actually get, and
> > an explanation (and link to a table) of the difference between sync rate
> > and IP rate.
>
> Then for any protocol a home user is likely to use, you'll have at least
> a 2% TCP overhead, then re-transmissions from the occasioanal dropped
> packet and you'd better throttle your upload rate or waiting for ACKs
> will slow your downloads.

That's all included in their explanation.

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Daffy Duck

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 10:36:16 +0000, Eeyore wrote:

> Daffy Duck wrote:
>
>>> The maximum download rate possible with BT's max dsl is 7150 kbps when you have
>>> an 8128 kbps sync. Which is what I have.
>>
>> So ALL ADSL suppliers,including Idnet,are misleading with their advertising
>> then
>
> Yes.
>
> I've complained to Ofcom but they don't seem to care.
>
> Graham

Was it Idnet you complained about?...are you admitting that this wonderful
company that you recommend so often and wholeheartedly is,in fact,less than
honest with it's adverts?

Daffy Duck

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 10:44:40 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:

> On 09/12/2007 09:23, Daffy Duck wrote:
>
>> So ALL ADSL suppliers,including Idnet,are misleading with their advertising
>> then because,according to you,no one can get the 8meg they advertise.
>
> One of the better explanations of why that is correct can be found here
>

I'm not questioning that it's correct.I'm just pointing out that that makes
their advertising (including his beloved Idnet) just as inaccurate as
Eeyore claims VM's is.

Joe@bethere.co.uk

On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 23:53:06 -0000, "John" <>
wrote:


>It depends on the quality of your phone line and the distance from the
>exchange. 15 to 20Mbps on a standard phone line is very good. It's just
>about pushing it to the limit.

Nothing to do with the phone line John after I posted last night I had
another go with the BE box I installed it on the laptop and it
connected first time and gave me a speed of 16+Mbps .
Now I then downloaded Java and a few other bits of software and re
checked the speed and it had dropped down to around 8 !!,I am now
starting to wonder if the box is slightly faulty another reason for
this is the fact that when I unpacked it the power supply cord wasn't
packed neatly it looked like it had just been thrown in the cardboard
box with the cord just thrown on top any old how.
I am now wondering if BE have sent me a box that they have had
returned the Netgear is still only giving me just short of 8 .

Bob Eager

On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 12:29:12 UTC, wrote:

> On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 23:53:06 -0000, "John" <>
> wrote:
>
> >It depends on the quality of your phone line and the distance from the
> >exchange. 15 to 20Mbps on a standard phone line is very good. It's just
> >about pushing it to the limit.
>
> Nothing to do with the phone line John after I posted last night I had
> another go with the BE box I installed it on the laptop and it
> connected first time and gave me a speed of 16+Mbps .
> Now I then downloaded Java and a few other bits of software and re
> checked the speed and it had dropped down to around 8 !!,I am now
> starting to wonder if the box is slightly faulty another reason for
> this is the fact that when I unpacked it the power supply cord wasn't
> packed neatly it looked like it had just been thrown in the cardboard
> box with the cord just thrown on top any old how.
> I am now wondering if BE have sent me a box that they have had
> returned the Netgear is still only giving me just short of 8 .

Ron again?
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brightside S9

On 9 Dec 2007 10:40:16 GMT, "Bob Eager" <> wrote:

>On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 10:36:16 UTC, Eeyore
><> wrote:
>
>> Daffy Duck wrote:
>>
>> > > The maximum download rate possible with BT's max dsl is 7150 kbps when you have
>> > > an 8128 kbps sync. Which is what I have.
>> >
>> > So ALL ADSL suppliers,including Idnet,are misleading with their advertising
>> > then
>>
>> Yes.
>
>No. Look at the AAISP web site, front page, at:
>
>Look at top right, where it says 'up to 8Mb/s', and click on the link
>('Max').
>
>They then have a long section about what speed you may actually get, and
>an explanation (and link to a table) of the difference between sync rate
>and IP rate.

It is a good and comprehensive explanation. They do emphasise that
"Good internal wiring is often a key factor in getting the best
performance out of your broadband line."

You have also pointed out in a previous post that the ADSLnation
filter and twisted pair lead from filter to router is a worthwile
investment.

I am between 5.5km and 6km from the exchange. My Netgear DG834G
router, with the supplied filter and lead connected in the NTE5,
andleft powered on, used to resynch itself occasionally (two or three
times a week) and ran between 1720kps and 2016kps. The BRAS rate
would vary between 1.5M and 1.75M (as *used* to be reported on my
connection stats by my ISP).

I took your advice and installed the ADSLnation filter and 10m lead
(there is a backup reason for this long lead) and now get rock solid
synch at 2432 and BRAS of 2M (as given on by
).

The phones, connected or disconnected from the filter, never made a
slightest difference to the synch rate before or after installing the
new filter and lead.

Good advice, thanks Bob.

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