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Unread 06-07-2010, 05:19 AM   #11
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Re: Computer freezing.

Yes, I know how RAM works - I've studied it in high school and now I'm studying it again in the university. I know it's internal structure and how the CPU addresses to it. I also have around 8 years of solving computer issues and in my experience here are the things that RAM can cause:
1. If there are some bad sectors, addressing to them can cause 2 things, depending on what is addressing to them:
1.1. If it is a program that is not essential for Windows to run, then only the program will crash and you'll get Error reporting window.
1.2. If it is the Windows itself or an essential program, then you get BSOD and a memory dump is done. You can then check the memory dump for more info.
2. If all the memory is gone, then you'll not go through the POST screen.
3. If the SPD is fried, then you won't be able to even start the PC (you'll hear beep code for memory error)
And regarding "everything running on your computer goes through RAM first" I should disagree with that too - some programs are made to run in the page file, so you can get BSOD with totally good RAM, but bad sectors on you HDD right where pagefile.sys resides.

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Re: Computer freezing.

...or if a single FET builds up a "sticky" charge, a single bit will malfunction, remaining undetected unless a full RAM check is run.

Let me clarify: everything running in ring 3 goes through RAM. Everything running in ring 0 doesn't have to go through RAM, but knows better than to avoid doing so, with the possible exception of really stupid rootkits.

Stating your experience is unnecessary. I've been here long enough to know that you are quite experienced. Trust me, I trust you. Normally, I make a list of possible causes and cross stuff off only when I am absolutely positive that it can't be the culprit. As I see it, RAM is still worth considering.

I could go on and on, but seeing as it would be completely off topic, let's just stick to the point: RAM is always an option when symptoms are inconsistent. While I agree with you that it doesn't seem the most likely, the VM issue indicates that it is something memory-related. I had a very similar problem with an old XP machine, and swapping out the RAM did the trick. But for that one computer, I've had dozens of others where the GPU was the culprit. On those, messing with the pagefile didn't affect the symptoms. On the machine with the RAM problem, increasing the pagefile size changed how memory was allocated, and therefore when the RAM issues surfaced. As such, we shouldn't rule out RAM.

After rereading everything, I'm starting to think that the problem might be software-related. Most of the freezing, etc. issues we get here are obviously caused by hardware problems, so I think we jumped right to RAM/GPU. We also don't have enough information to figure out exactly what the problem is if we assume software, while we have enough to make an educated guess if we assume hardware. I don't believe the problem is caused by malware, but it could be the result of incompletely/improperly removed malware, or completely legitimate yet misconfigured software.
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Re: Computer freezing.

I see your point. There is one possible solution that is both GPU and RAM related - AGP Aperture Size. It's more of RAM problem, but the symptoms can be like those for GPU problem. Depthcharger04, could you try decreasing the value of AGP Aperture Size and see what happens?
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Re: Computer freezing.

this had happen before
the problem is that my computer just freezes nothing work not even control alt delete\
sometimes the screen will just go blank
my computer info is Pentium(R) D CPU 2.66 GHz, 2.67 GHz. 960 MB of RAM
i dont think it is a GPU problem
i was thinking of doing a sytem recovery and if that doesnt work u guys should give me new susgestion
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Re: Computer freezing.

well here is the whole story
my computerwas working well until i tried to install the lastest photoshop
then my computer froze
after that i turn it off by holding the power button and did a sytem recovery that i do every month it it was ok until next time i turned it off and it starts to freeze again and now when i press the power button all i get is a blank screen.
but after a few attempts to turn it on i recoverd my data and did a system restore back to the setting it was when i go it and when i was playing a game the computer screen went blank.

any suggests on wut should i do?
do u think its a virus or my computer is just old?
please help
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Re: Computer freezing.

try a fresh install. if it screws up along the way, it's your ram or moboard
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Re: Computer freezing.

i dont think its a virus

the computer sometimes turns on but i had the same problem before
it had to do with the computer freezing
i remember reading another forum where people had the same problem as i did
few people said to try using Process Lasso cause i remember the cause of my computer freezing had to do with the virtual memory but that program could maybe help it. and another adivce is errorteck
which one should i use? Processs Lasso is a 14 day trial
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