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Old 24-11-2007, 10:32 PM   #1
Monroe
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Firefox - Spyware

If using Firefox, a reasonable hardware firewall and good anti-virus,
any substantial advantage to using Adaware or one of the other
anti-spyware software? Still checking into and not fully aware of all
of the capabilities of Firefox, but it seems that it and the existing
firewall/AV could pretty much do the trick as far as critical
requirements. Wondering whether I'm missing something in this.

Appreciate all suggestions on this. thanks
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Monroe
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Old 25-11-2007, 02:34 AM   #2
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Re: Firefox - Spyware


"Monroe" <terra3@wildroseinternet.ca> wrote in message
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> If using Firefox, a reasonable hardware firewall and good anti-virus,
> any substantial advantage to using Adaware or one of the other
> anti-spyware software? Still checking into and not fully aware of all
> of the capabilities of Firefox, but it seems that it and the existing
> firewall/AV could pretty much do the trick as far as critical
> requirements. Wondering whether I'm missing something in this.


Do the trick to do what? It's based on you and what you're doing to put the
computer at risk. After all, you're the one sitting behind the mouse doing
the pointing and clicking, and you are at the keyboard doing the typing.

It's like you are saying "I have a radiation suite on, but I am standing
inside a Nuclear Reactor."

The key to at all is practicing safe hex, hardening the O/S as much ass
possible to attack. Its not the Superman costume sitting in the closet (the
prevention software).

http://www.claymania.com/safe-hex.html
http://labmice.techtarget.com/articl...ychecklist.htm

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Old 25-11-2007, 04:32 AM   #3
Gerald Vogt
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Re: Firefox - Spyware

On Nov 25, 2:21 am, Monroe <ter...@wildroseinternet.ca> wrote:
> If using Firefox, a reasonable hardware firewall and good anti-virus,
> any substantial advantage to using Adaware or one of the other
> anti-spyware software? Still checking into and not fully aware of all
> of the capabilities of Firefox, but it seems that it and the existing
> firewall/AV could pretty much do the trick as far as critical
> requirements. Wondering whether I'm missing something in this.


Yes. The only trick is "you". No browser, no software firewall, no
antivirus, no anti-spyware, no adaware, no hardware firewall, nothing
will effectively prevent you from running malware in the end.

It is mostly what you do what decides whether or not your computer
gets infected or not. Just like: If you frequently dive into the junk
yard you'll get dirty. Nothing will prevent that.

Thus the really "critical requirement" is that you think about what
you are doing. That makes the real difference.

Gerald
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Old 01-12-2007, 11:41 PM   #4
Victek
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Re: Firefox - Spyware

> If using Firefox, a reasonable hardware firewall and good anti-virus,
> any substantial advantage to using Adaware or one of the other
> anti-spyware software? Still checking into and not fully aware of all
> of the capabilities of Firefox, but it seems that it and the existing
> firewall/AV could pretty much do the trick as far as critical
> requirements. Wondering whether I'm missing something in this.
>
> Appreciate all suggestions on this. thanks


I would absolutely run AS with real-time scanning enabled. There are also
behavior based malware blockers that provide another layer of security
against "zero day exploits", such as Threatfire and DSA. But as others have
already said Safe Hex is essential. Security software only supports Safe
Hex.

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Old 01-12-2007, 11:42 PM   #5
Sebastian G.
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Re: Firefox - Spyware

Victek wrote:


> I would absolutely run AS with real-time scanning enabled. There are also
> behavior based malware blockers that provide another layer of security
> against "zero day exploits", such as Threatfire and DSA. But as others have
> already said Safe Hex is essential. Security software only supports Safe
> Hex.


*Good* security software supports Safe Hex, bad security software (as all
"Anti-spyware" software is) rather breaks it. In fact, even most of the more
renoble security software typically makes the system more insecure.

Generally, adding more software only increases complexity, which is the
major counter player of security. Therefore, the general advice is to remove
as much software as possible, not adding new one.

As for the real-time scanning and behaviour blocking, it fails blatantly in
the real world.
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Old 01-12-2007, 11:55 PM   #6
Victek
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Re: Firefox - Spyware

> If using Firefox, a reasonable hardware firewall and good anti-virus,
> any substantial advantage to using Adaware or one of the other
> anti-spyware software? Still checking into and not fully aware of all
> of the capabilities of Firefox, but it seems that it and the existing
> firewall/AV could pretty much do the trick as far as critical
> requirements. Wondering whether I'm missing something in this.
>
> Appreciate all suggestions on this. thanks


I would absolutely run AS with real-time scanning enabled. There are also
behavior based malware blockers that provide another layer of security
against "zero day exploits", such as Threatfire and DSA. But as others have
already said Safe Hex is essential. Security software only supports Safe
Hex.

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Old 01-12-2007, 11:56 PM   #7
Sebastian G.
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Re: Firefox - Spyware

Victek wrote:


> I would absolutely run AS with real-time scanning enabled. There are also
> behavior based malware blockers that provide another layer of security
> against "zero day exploits", such as Threatfire and DSA. But as others have
> already said Safe Hex is essential. Security software only supports Safe
> Hex.


*Good* security software supports Safe Hex, bad security software (as all
"Anti-spyware" software is) rather breaks it. In fact, even most of the more
renoble security software typically makes the system more insecure.

Generally, adding more software only increases complexity, which is the
major counter player of security. Therefore, the general advice is to remove
as much software as possible, not adding new one.

As for the real-time scanning and behaviour blocking, it fails blatantly in
the real world.
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Old 02-12-2007, 12:12 AM   #8
Victek
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Re: Firefox - Spyware

> If using Firefox, a reasonable hardware firewall and good anti-virus,
> any substantial advantage to using Adaware or one of the other
> anti-spyware software? Still checking into and not fully aware of all
> of the capabilities of Firefox, but it seems that it and the existing
> firewall/AV could pretty much do the trick as far as critical
> requirements. Wondering whether I'm missing something in this.
>
> Appreciate all suggestions on this. thanks


I would absolutely run AS with real-time scanning enabled. There are also
behavior based malware blockers that provide another layer of security
against "zero day exploits", such as Threatfire and DSA. But as others have
already said Safe Hex is essential. Security software only supports Safe
Hex.

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Old 02-12-2007, 12:13 AM   #9
Sebastian G.
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Re: Firefox - Spyware

Victek wrote:


> I would absolutely run AS with real-time scanning enabled. There are also
> behavior based malware blockers that provide another layer of security
> against "zero day exploits", such as Threatfire and DSA. But as others have
> already said Safe Hex is essential. Security software only supports Safe
> Hex.


*Good* security software supports Safe Hex, bad security software (as all
"Anti-spyware" software is) rather breaks it. In fact, even most of the more
renoble security software typically makes the system more insecure.

Generally, adding more software only increases complexity, which is the
major counter player of security. Therefore, the general advice is to remove
as much software as possible, not adding new one.

As for the real-time scanning and behaviour blocking, it fails blatantly in
the real world.
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Old 02-12-2007, 12:21 AM   #10
Victek
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Re: Firefox - Spyware

> If using Firefox, a reasonable hardware firewall and good anti-virus,
> any substantial advantage to using Adaware or one of the other
> anti-spyware software? Still checking into and not fully aware of all
> of the capabilities of Firefox, but it seems that it and the existing
> firewall/AV could pretty much do the trick as far as critical
> requirements. Wondering whether I'm missing something in this.
>
> Appreciate all suggestions on this. thanks


I would absolutely run AS with real-time scanning enabled. There are also
behavior based malware blockers that provide another layer of security
against "zero day exploits", such as Threatfire and DSA. But as others have
already said Safe Hex is essential. Security software only supports Safe
Hex.

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