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Old 27-11-2007, 08:32 PM   #41
Daniel James
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Re: Newbie needs linux advice

In article news:<3130303037373036474AD96B61@plugzetnet.co.uk> , Johnny B
Good wrote:
> NTL/Telewest (now rebranded as Virgin Media aka virgin meedja or VM)
> _CABLE_ _DON'T_ supply a router, it's a _CABLE MODEM_ !!!


I knew that! Once ... I got roped into helping a friend set up an
ethernet router (linksys wireless jobbie, NOT supplied by NTL) with his
NTL modem, so I should have remembered.

I was probably confusing my recollection of the nice shiny new Netgear
wireless router that a different friend got from some other unmemorable
peddler of consumer broadband ... but now that I come to think (harder)
about it I think that was Sky.

Do NTL/TW/Virgin supply the same kit now that they're Virgin?

Cheers,
Daniel.


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Old 27-11-2007, 09:32 PM   #42
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Re: Newbie needs linux advice

Daniel James wrote:
> In article news:<474aed70$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net>, Geoffrey Clements
> wrote:
>> You can do that now (well I don't know about Vista) with Xp, qemu
>> lets you run Xp as a virtual machine.

>
> Nice for those that can use it ... on my Gentoo box I get a snotty
> message saying that gcc 4 can't build qemu and would I please downgrade
> my whole build to gcc 3. No, thanks. I'll wait for qemu to grow up.
>


How about trying VirtualBox instead?
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Old 27-11-2007, 09:32 PM   #43
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Re: Newbie needs linux advice

"Daniel James" <wastebasket@nospam.aaisp.org> wrote in message
news:VA.0000124f.10b0cd28@nospam.aaisp.org...
> In article news:<474aed70$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net>, Geoffrey Clements
> wrote:
>> You can do that now (well I don't know about Vista) with Xp, qemu
>> lets you run Xp as a virtual machine.

>
> Nice for those that can use it ... on my Gentoo box I get a snotty
> message saying that gcc 4 can't build qemu and would I please downgrade
> my whole build to gcc 3. No, thanks. I'll wait for qemu to grow up.
>


I'm a Gentoo user too! It's very easy, gcc is slotted at the major versions
so you can install gcc-3.* alongside gcc-4.*. Before emerging qemu use
gcc-config to select gcc-3.*. After the emerge use gcc-config again to
select gcc-4.* again. The kernel module part of qemu in in a separate
package and compiles under gcc-4.*.

It's not as easy for qemu to change to the latest gcc as it re-writes code
on the fly but it I agree that will be nice when it can use it.

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Geoff


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Old 27-11-2007, 10:33 PM   #44
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Re: Newbie needs linux advice

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:53:37 +0000, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

>Alang wrote:
>> Still need a news reader.
>> Tried again with Pan and installed Tbird too.
>> Tbird has problems with text size. My eyesight isn't too good. I can
>> set the body text in agent to a readable size. Can't do it in Tbird
>> because it sets quoted text at different sizes. Makes the message all
>> but unreadable without constantly altering text size.

>
>You can do this in TB. Have a look in Edit -> Preferences -> Display tab
>-> Formatting Tab
>
>Under the Fonts & Encodings section you can set whatever font and size
>you like. I've just changed my fixed width font (my preferred font) to
>14pt and it works fine.


I think that was what I did anyway. I know I tried different
font/sizes. The quoted text came out in different sizes. Made it
difficult to read.

I'll be loading up th linux drive later and have another try at the
various options
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Old 27-11-2007, 10:33 PM   #45
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Alang wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:53:37 +0000, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Alang wrote:
>>> Still need a news reader.
>>> Tried again with Pan and installed Tbird too.
>>> Tbird has problems with text size. My eyesight isn't too good. I can
>>> set the body text in agent to a readable size. Can't do it in Tbird
>>> because it sets quoted text at different sizes. Makes the message all
>>> but unreadable without constantly altering text size.

>> You can do this in TB. Have a look in Edit -> Preferences -> Display tab
>> -> Formatting Tab
>>
>> Under the Fonts & Encodings section you can set whatever font and size
>> you like. I've just changed my fixed width font (my preferred font) to
>> 14pt and it works fine.

>
> I think that was what I did anyway. I know I tried different
> font/sizes. The quoted text came out in different sizes. Made it
> difficult to read.


Ah, that'll be the drop-down boxes for 'Style' and 'Size' in the 'Plain
Text Messages' section. The size box only has options for 'Bigger' and
'Smaller'. Is that the one you tried? I must say it is an odd feature...

The one I meant was the one below that where you can actually specify
the actual font size.

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Old 28-11-2007, 12:33 AM   #46
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Re: Newbie needs linux advice

In fihghu$7a9$1@dux.dundee.ac.uk
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

> Alang wrote:
> > On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:53:37 +0000, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Alang wrote:
> >>> Still need a news reader.
> >>> Tried again with Pan and installed Tbird too.
> >>> Tbird has problems with text size. My eyesight isn't too good. I
> >>> can set the body text in agent to a readable size. Can't do it in
> >>> Tbird because it sets quoted text at different sizes. Makes the
> >>> message all but unreadable without constantly altering text size.
> >> You can do this in TB. Have a look in Edit -> Preferences ->
> >> Display tab -> Formatting Tab
> >>
> >> Under the Fonts & Encodings section you can set whatever font and
> >> size you like. I've just changed my fixed width font (my preferred
> >> font) to 14pt and it works fine.

> >
> > I think that was what I did anyway. I know I tried different
> > font/sizes. The quoted text came out in different sizes. Made it
> > difficult to read.

>
> Ah, that'll be the drop-down boxes for 'Style' and 'Size' in the
> 'Plain Text Messages' section. The size box only has options for
> 'Bigger' and 'Smaller'. Is that the one you tried? I must say it is
> an odd feature...
>
> The one I meant was the one below that where you can actually specify
> the actual font size.


As well as it sometimes wanting to use a variable width font instead of
fixed, HTML vs plain text etc, you can (or have to) also specify
different sizes for different encodings which is why it tends to display
different messages, and even different parts of the same message, at
different sizes.

--
TH * http://www.realh.co.uk

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Old 28-11-2007, 12:33 AM   #47
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Re: Newbie needs linux advice

The message <VA.0000124d.10b0cac7@nospam.aaisp.org>
from Daniel James <wastebasket@nospam.aaisp.org> contains these words:

> In article news:<3130303037373036474AD96B61@plugzetnet.co.uk> , Johnny B
> Good wrote:
> > NTL/Telewest (now rebranded as Virgin Media aka virgin meedja or VM)
> > _CABLE_ _DON'T_ supply a router, it's a _CABLE MODEM_ !!!


> I knew that! Once ... I got roped into helping a friend set up an
> ethernet router (linksys wireless jobbie, NOT supplied by NTL) with his
> NTL modem, so I should have remembered.


> I was probably confusing my recollection of the nice shiny new Netgear
> wireless router that a different friend got from some other unmemorable
> peddler of consumer broadband ... but now that I come to think (harder)
> about it I think that was Sky.


> Do NTL/TW/Virgin supply the same kit now that they're Virgin?


I suppose they supply _A_ _cable_ modem, not necessarily an NTL:120
Ambit Modem. NTL have used different brands of modem (always a cable
modem, never a cable modem/router).

I suspect there's simply no such animal as a 'modem/router' in the
cable world - that's a product of the ADSL age whereby existing router
designs were enhanced by the addition of ADSL modem circuitry.

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Regards, John.

Please remove the "ohggcyht" before replying.
The address has been munged to reject Spam-bots.

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Old 28-11-2007, 05:33 AM   #48
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Re: Newbie needs linux advice


"Daniel James" <wastebasket@nospam.aaisp.org> wrote in message
news:VA.0000124d.10b0cac7@nospam.aaisp.org...
| In article news:<3130303037373036474AD96B61@plugzetnet.co.uk> , Johnny B
| Good wrote:
| > NTL/Telewest (now rebranded as Virgin Media aka virgin meedja or VM)
| > _CABLE_ _DON'T_ supply a router, it's a _CABLE MODEM_ !!!
|
| I knew that! Once ... I got roped into helping a friend set up an
| ethernet router (linksys wireless jobbie, NOT supplied by NTL) with his
| NTL modem, so I should have remembered.
|
| I was probably confusing my recollection of the nice shiny new Netgear
| wireless router that a different friend got from some other unmemorable
| peddler of consumer broadband ... but now that I come to think (harder)
| about it I think that was Sky.
|
| Do NTL/TW/Virgin supply the same kit now that they're Virgin?
|
| Cheers,
| Daniel.
|
|

The cable modem they supply now looks the same except it's a black
box, not
blue as earlier, and has no alternative usb socket, ethernet only to
connect to PC.
--
Mike the Brewer

"The secret of a good job is in the quality of the swear-words used"


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Old 28-11-2007, 05:31 PM   #49
Daniel James
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Re: Newbie needs linux advice

In article news:<fihbvk$41t$1@dux.dundee.ac.uk>, Chris wrote:
> How about trying VirtualBox instead?


Funny you should ask ... I emerged it last night. I'm sure it was
masked last time I looked.

Time to have a play ...

Cheers,
Daniel.


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Old 28-11-2007, 05:31 PM   #50
Daniel James
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Re: Newbie needs linux advice

In article news:<474c3681_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net>, Geoffrey Clements
wrote:
> Before emerging qemu use gcc-config to select gcc-3.*. After the
> emerge use gcc-config again to select gcc-4.* again. The kernel
> module part of qemu in in a separate package and compiles under
> gcc-4.*.


Ah ... and the gcc4-compiled kernel of qemu part works with the
gcc3-compiled non-kernel part, does it? That wasn't clear from what I
read on the matter.

I may try that another day ...

Thanks,
Daniel.



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