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Unread 08-12-2007, 02:41 AM   #11
ml2mst
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Re: I've been playing around.

ChrisC wrote:

> just an observation.


Or flamebait?

I use both DE's on a regular base and neither of them frequently crash.

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Unread 08-12-2007, 02:41 AM   #12
Wim Cossement
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Re: I've been playing around.

Martin Gregorie wrote:
> Wim Cossement wrote:
>>
>> What kind of beer?
>> Here Jupiler is my favourite but you should all know Stella Artois,
>> sicne we keep the best and export the inferior ones...
>>

> I thought you guys turned up your noses at anything except Trappist or
> Abbaiale beers.


Not really, we like all of them... :-)

> I was happy to drink Jupilier (especially in the Falstaff) when I was
> working in Brussels but a Belgian friend classed anything that wasn't
> Trappist or Abbaile as "industrial beer" and wouldn't touch it. I also
> liked Chimay Bleu a lot.


Well thats a bit snobby if you ask me!
It's also the first time I'm confronted with such a point of view and I
must say that your friend is talking crap.

We don't look down upon industrially produced beers, only the quality of
the liquid matters (and taste is debatable...)
Some trappists and abbey beers are also produced on an industrial scale
you know.

And last but not least: if you go out and only drink Duvel, Chimaym or
Chimay Blue for instance you'll get quite ****ed up in the end but with
normal beers it's easier to move larger quantities! :-p

Wimmy
 
Unread 08-12-2007, 02:41 AM   #13
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ChrisC wrote:

> Does any one notice that KDE is less stable than Gnome. I find Gnome
> crashes less and is a lot more solid.


What do you mean by 'crashes'? KDE comprises many individual components, and
it seems a bit far fetched that so many processes would crash at once. What
application are you having problems with?

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Unread 08-12-2007, 02:41 AM   #14
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"Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
news:4758f352$0$230$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
> ChrisC wrote:
>> Does any one notice that KDE is less stable than Gnome. I find Gnome
>> crashes less and is a lot more solid. This isn't Gnome Vs KDE debate,
>> just an observation.
>>

> Hmm, am I feeding a troll?
>


I don't think so ChrisC has been around here before but only this year, I
think - assuming it's the same ChrisC of course!

> Anyway, I only use KDE as in Kubuntu and yet I can compare it with Gnome.
> That's because KDE does not crash, I've seen the odd application with a
> problem but not KDE itself that's causing trouble.


I'm a long time KDE user with the occasional dip into Gnome. I find both
to be excellent but with a different emphasis on the type of user it's
trying to attract which keeps me anchored to KDE (or XFCE if I'm feeling in
an austere mood). As for stability - never really had a problem since KDE
1.3 (or was it 1.4 - I'm too old for such feats of memory!). I see the
occasional traceback usually coincidiing with closing an application but, as
Dirk says, I believe this to be the application not KDE.

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Unread 08-12-2007, 02:41 AM   #15
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On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 06:27:05 +0000, Dan C wrote:

> On 2007-12-07, ChrisC wrote:
>> Does any one notice that KDE is less stable than Gnome. I find Gnome
>> crashes less and is a lot more solid. This isn't Gnome Vs KDE debate,
>> just an observation.

>
> I'd score this a 1.25 (out of 10) on the Troll-O-Meter.


Trolls get weaker towards the weekend as their beer levels drop.

So, did we ever definitively decide which is better, emacs or vi?

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Unread 08-12-2007, 02:41 AM   #16
Lionel B
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Re: I've been playing around.

On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:19:52 +0000, Daniel James wrote:

> In article news:<1197006806.24616.0@iris.uk.clara.net>, ChrisC wrote:
>> Does any one notice that KDE is less stable than Gnome. I find Gnome
>> crashes less and is a lot more solid.


[...]

> I find KDE has slightly more useful functionality than Gnome, but it
> also has more complexity and more useLESS functionality. A trimmed-down,
> leaner, KDE would be better than either.


It's called xfce

(personally I use None Of The Above, just fluxbox + command line, but I
had a play with xfce recently and it seems nice enough).

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Unread 08-12-2007, 02:41 AM   #17
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Re: I've been playing around.

ChrisC wrote:

> just an observation.


Or flamebait?

I use both DE's on a regular base and neither of them frequently crash.

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Unread 08-12-2007, 02:41 AM   #18
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Re: I've been playing around.

In article news:<1197006806.24616.0@iris.uk.clara.net>, ChrisC wrote:
> Does any one notice that KDE is less stable than Gnome. I find Gnome
> crashes less and is a lot more solid.


I've used both and never noticed any particular instability in either.

I did once get into an extraordinary mess trying to run some Gnome apps
under KDE, and ended up with KDE trying to run an infinite number of
copies of Nautilus ... but that was some years ago. I haven't had
significant problems with either since.

I find KDE has slightly more useful functionality than Gnome, but it
also has more complexity and more useLESS functionality. A
trimmed-down, leaner, KDE would be better than either.

[Note: some newsgroups trimmed as my news server doesn't carry them,
and won't post to them]

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Unread 08-12-2007, 02:41 AM   #19
Wim Cossement
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Mark South wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 06:27:05 +0000, Dan C wrote:
>
>> On 2007-12-07, ChrisC wrote:
>>> Does any one notice that KDE is less stable than Gnome. I find Gnome
>>> crashes less and is a lot more solid. This isn't Gnome Vs KDE debate,
>>> just an observation.

>> I'd score this a 1.25 (out of 10) on the Troll-O-Meter.

>
> Trolls get weaker towards the weekend as their beer levels drop.


What kind of beer?
Here Jupiler is my favourite but you should all know Stella Artois,
sicne we keep the best and export the inferior ones...

> So, did we ever definitively decide which is better, emacs or vi?


No man, but I must say Gentoo is a really good distribution and the
others are used by a bunch of tree huggin' hippie crap! :-p

> Mark


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Unread 08-12-2007, 02:42 AM   #20
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On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 05:53:26 +0000, ChrisC <chrispche@nospam.googlemail.com>
wrote:

>Does any one notice that KDE is less stable than Gnome. I find Gnome
>crashes less and is a lot more solid. This isn't Gnome Vs KDE debate,
>just an observation.


That has been my experience. KDE is .. flaky. For any job that requires a
computer to work 24 / 7, the clear choice is GNOME. KDE is pretty, and more
customizable .. and, I genuinely like KDE better, but GNOME is where I do my
work ..

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