I've been playing around.

Martin Gregorie

Wim Cossement wrote:
>
> What kind of beer?
> Here Jupiler is my favourite but you should all know Stella Artois,
> sicne we keep the best and export the inferior ones...
>
I thought you guys turned up your noses at anything except Trappist or
Abbaiale beers.

I was happy to drink Jupilier (especially in the Falstaff) when I was
working in Brussels but a Belgian friend classed anything that wasn't
Trappist or Abbaile as "industrial beer" and wouldn't touch it. I also
liked Chimay Bleu a lot.


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Hadron

ml2mst <> writes:

> ChrisC wrote:
>
>> just an observation.
>
> Or flamebait?
>
> I use both DE's on a regular base and neither of them frequently
> crash.

Hey marti, remember the last time you started throwing around unfounded
insults to posters here? Yes. You had to apologise. Unless you KNOW
someone is trolling then have the good decency to STFU. No one cares who
think is a troll or not. Save it for COLA.

To the OP - yes, I did indeed find KDE less stable than Gnome - but the
last time I tried it was over a year ago. I also found it generally
kludgier and over stuffed with useless features that personally I don't
need or want. Gnome does exactly want I want it to do - provide a clean
stable desktop from which I can select the applications I need to do
real work. A lot of people rave about Konqueror but frankly I hated it -
it is trying to be too many things to too many people.

And don't forget you can always use Gnome but still run your favourite
KDE apps too.

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alexd

ChrisC wrote:

> Does any one notice that KDE is less stable than Gnome. I find Gnome
> crashes less and is a lot more solid.

What do you mean by 'crashes'? KDE comprises many individual components, and
it seems a bit far fetched that so many processes would crash at once. What
application are you having problems with?

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George Peatty <> did eloquently scribble:
> On 7 Dec 2007 11:43:18 +0100, Mark South <mark.south@null.invalid> wrote:

>>So, did we ever definitively decide which is better, emacs or vi?

> Such mystical, transcendental questions have no solution. It's like asking,
> what is the value of pi?

Oh, that's EASY.
It's exactly...
the ratio of a circle's diameter to its circumference...

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Daniel James

In article news:<.clara.net>, ChrisC wrote:
> Does any one notice that KDE is less stable than Gnome. I find Gnome
> crashes less and is a lot more solid.

I've used both and never noticed any particular instability in either.

I did once get into an extraordinary mess trying to run some Gnome apps
under KDE, and ended up with KDE trying to run an infinite number of
copies of Nautilus ... but that was some years ago. I haven't had
significant problems with either since.

I find KDE has slightly more useful functionality than Gnome, but it
also has more complexity and more useLESS functionality. A
trimmed-down, leaner, KDE would be better than either.

[Note: some newsgroups trimmed as my news server doesn't carry them,
and won't post to them]

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Moog

Dan C illuminated alt.os.linux.ubuntu by typing:
> On 2007-12-07, ChrisC wrote:
>> Does any one notice that KDE is less stable than Gnome. I find Gnome
>> crashes less and is a lot more solid. This isn't Gnome Vs KDE debate,
>> just an observation.
>
> I'd score this a 1.25 (out of 10) on the Troll-O-Meter.

Perhaps, but then again, I do find it difficult to run KDE3 without
hitting constant sigsegv's

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leather straps."

Wim Cossement

Martin Gregorie wrote:
> Wim Cossement wrote:
>>
>> What kind of beer?
>> Here Jupiler is my favourite but you should all know Stella Artois,
>> sicne we keep the best and export the inferior ones...
>>
> I thought you guys turned up your noses at anything except Trappist or
> Abbaiale beers.

Not really, we like all of them... :-)

> I was happy to drink Jupilier (especially in the Falstaff) when I was
> working in Brussels but a Belgian friend classed anything that wasn't
> Trappist or Abbaile as "industrial beer" and wouldn't touch it. I also
> liked Chimay Bleu a lot.

Well thats a bit snobby if you ask me!
It's also the first time I'm confronted with such a point of view and I
must say that your friend is talking crap.

We don't look down upon industrially produced beers, only the quality of
the liquid matters (and taste is debatable...)
Some trappists and abbey beers are also produced on an industrial scale
you know.

And last but not least: if you go out and only drink Duvel, Chimaym or
Chimay Blue for instance you'll get quite ****ed up in the end but with
normal beers it's easier to move larger quantities! :-p

Wimmy

Sanukk

On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 12:11:40 +0100, Wim Cossement wrote:

> What kind of beer?

It's got to be Singha:

Wonderful Thai beer, love the stuff :^>

-S

Lionel B

On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:19:52 +0000, Daniel James wrote:

> In article news:<1197006806.24616.0@iris.uk.clara.net>, ChrisC wrote:
>> Does any one notice that KDE is less stable than Gnome. I find Gnome
>> crashes less and is a lot more solid.

[...]

> I find KDE has slightly more useful functionality than Gnome, but it
> also has more complexity and more useLESS functionality. A trimmed-down,
> leaner, KDE would be better than either.

It's called xfce

(personally I use None Of The Above, just fluxbox + command line, but I
had a play with xfce recently and it seems nice enough).

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Martin Gregorie

Wim Cossement wrote:
> Martin Gregorie wrote:
>> I was happy to drink Jupilier (especially in the Falstaff) when I was
>> working in Brussels but a Belgian friend classed anything that wasn't
>> Trappist or Abbaile as "industrial beer" and wouldn't touch it. I also
>> liked Chimay Bleu a lot.
>
> Well thats a bit snobby if you ask me!
> It's also the first time I'm confronted with such a point of view and I
> must say that your friend is talking crap.
>
Thanks for the correction. BTW, I didn't say I agreed with him! I have
many happy memories of sitting with friends, drinking Jupiler,
especially outside the beer tent at a model flying meeting on the air
force firing range up the road from Hasselt (at Heltcheren? - its been a
while).

> And last but not least: if you go out and only drink Duvel, Chimaym or
> Chimay Blue for instance you'll get quite ****ed up in the end but with
> normal beers it's easier to move larger quantities! :-p
>
I had noticed that effect!


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