I've been playing around.

Martin Gregorie

Wim Cossement wrote:
>
> What kind of beer?
> Here Jupiler is my favourite but you should all know Stella Artois,
> sicne we keep the best and export the inferior ones...
>
I thought you guys turned up your noses at anything except Trappist or
Abbaiale beers.

I was happy to drink Jupilier (especially in the Falstaff) when I was
working in Brussels but a Belgian friend classed anything that wasn't
Trappist or Abbaile as "industrial beer" and wouldn't touch it. I also
liked Chimay Bleu a lot.


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Joe

On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 10:12:28 -0500, George Peatty wrote:

> On 7 Dec 2007 11:43:18 +0100, Mark South <mark.south@null.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>So, did we ever definitively decide which is better, emacs or vi?
>
> Such mystical, transcendental questions have no solution. It's like
> asking, what is the value of pi?

Mmmmmm. Pi....




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CBFalconer

George Peatty wrote:
> Mark South <mark.south@null.invalid> wrote:
>
>> So, did we ever definitively decide which is better, emacs or vi?
>
> Such mystical, transcendental questions have no solution. It's
> like asking, what is the value of pi?

Well, you can always ask two questions, typified by:

Is pi > 3.1415 ANS yes
Is pi < 3.1415 ANS no
Is pi > 3.1416 ANS no
Is pi < 3.1416 ANS yes

and develop pi to any desired accuracy from the answer set. :-)

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alexd

ChrisC wrote:

> Does any one notice that KDE is less stable than Gnome. I find Gnome
> crashes less and is a lot more solid.

What do you mean by 'crashes'? KDE comprises many individual components, and
it seems a bit far fetched that so many processes would crash at once. What
application are you having problems with?

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CBFalconer

ray wrote:
> George Peatty wrote:
>> Mark South <mark.south@null.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> So, did we ever definitively decide which is better, emacs or vi?
>>
>> Such mystical, transcendental questions have no solution. It's
>> like asking, what is the value of pi?
>
> 3.141592653589+

3.14159265358979+

If you add a 3 I don't know if you need a + or - following.

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Daniel James

In article news:<.clara.net>, ChrisC wrote:
> Does any one notice that KDE is less stable than Gnome. I find Gnome
> crashes less and is a lot more solid.

I've used both and never noticed any particular instability in either.

I did once get into an extraordinary mess trying to run some Gnome apps
under KDE, and ended up with KDE trying to run an infinite number of
copies of Nautilus ... but that was some years ago. I haven't had
significant problems with either since.

I find KDE has slightly more useful functionality than Gnome, but it
also has more complexity and more useLESS functionality. A
trimmed-down, leaner, KDE would be better than either.

[Note: some newsgroups trimmed as my news server doesn't carry them,
and won't post to them]

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Joe

On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 10:12:28 -0500, George Peatty wrote:

> On 7 Dec 2007 11:43:18 +0100, Mark South <mark.south@null.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>So, did we ever definitively decide which is better, emacs or vi?
>
> Such mystical, transcendental questions have no solution. It's like
> asking, what is the value of pi?

Mmmmmm. Pi....




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Wim Cossement

Martin Gregorie wrote:
> Wim Cossement wrote:
>>
>> What kind of beer?
>> Here Jupiler is my favourite but you should all know Stella Artois,
>> sicne we keep the best and export the inferior ones...
>>
> I thought you guys turned up your noses at anything except Trappist or
> Abbaiale beers.

Not really, we like all of them... :-)

> I was happy to drink Jupilier (especially in the Falstaff) when I was
> working in Brussels but a Belgian friend classed anything that wasn't
> Trappist or Abbaile as "industrial beer" and wouldn't touch it. I also
> liked Chimay Bleu a lot.

Well thats a bit snobby if you ask me!
It's also the first time I'm confronted with such a point of view and I
must say that your friend is talking crap.

We don't look down upon industrially produced beers, only the quality of
the liquid matters (and taste is debatable...)
Some trappists and abbey beers are also produced on an industrial scale
you know.

And last but not least: if you go out and only drink Duvel, Chimaym or
Chimay Blue for instance you'll get quite ****ed up in the end but with
normal beers it's easier to move larger quantities! :-p

Wimmy

Lionel B

On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:19:52 +0000, Daniel James wrote:

> In article news:<1197006806.24616.0@iris.uk.clara.net>, ChrisC wrote:
>> Does any one notice that KDE is less stable than Gnome. I find Gnome
>> crashes less and is a lot more solid.

[...]

> I find KDE has slightly more useful functionality than Gnome, but it
> also has more complexity and more useLESS functionality. A trimmed-down,
> leaner, KDE would be better than either.

It's called xfce

(personally I use None Of The Above, just fluxbox + command line, but I
had a play with xfce recently and it seems nice enough).

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George Peatty

On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 05:53:26 +0000, ChrisC <>
wrote:

>Does any one notice that KDE is less stable than Gnome. I find Gnome
>crashes less and is a lot more solid. This isn't Gnome Vs KDE debate,
>just an observation.

That has been my experience. KDE is .. flaky. For any job that requires a
computer to work 24 / 7, the clear choice is GNOME. KDE is pretty, and more
customizable .. and, I genuinely like KDE better, but GNOME is where I do my
work ..