BTS EDI Questions

Steve Harclerode

"hfdev" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hello,
>
> Are any of you using EDI in BizTalk 2006 R2? If so, can you offer any
> insight on how that is going? My company is looking to migrate from a
> competitor's product to the EDI integration offered in R2. We are
> specifically concerned with X12 and Edifact. We have partners in the

I use R2 EDI quite a bit, it's a major improvement from the 2004 version. I
found it very easy to implement 810, 867, 852, and a few other transactions.

I don't know much about EDIFACT (we always use X12). Regarding X12, I R2
supports versions up to 5030. I'm not sure if all of the the specific
transactions you mention are included, but I do know that they support over
300 transactions for 5030. My guess would be that they do support what you
need, although I can't find the specific documentation for that right now.

- Steve

hfdev

Steve, thanks for your insight.

Cheers,

Josh Blair
HydraForce, Inc.

"Steve Harclerode" wrote:

> "hfdev" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > Hello,
> >
> > Are any of you using EDI in BizTalk 2006 R2? If so, can you offer any
> > insight on how that is going? My company is looking to migrate from a
> > competitor's product to the EDI integration offered in R2. We are
> > specifically concerned with X12 and Edifact. We have partners in the
>
> I use R2 EDI quite a bit, it's a major improvement from the 2004 version. I
> found it very easy to implement 810, 867, 852, and a few other transactions.
>
> I don't know much about EDIFACT (we always use X12). Regarding X12, I R2
> supports versions up to 5030. I'm not sure if all of the the specific
> transactions you mention are included, but I do know that they support over
> 300 transactions for 5030. My guess would be that they do support what you
> need, although I can't find the specific documentation for that right now.
>
> - Steve
>
>
>

Kevin Orbaker

I haven't personally dealt with ALL of those documents, however, I have delt
with the majority of them (X12) and they have all worked 100%.

Honestly, I can't speak to the EDIFACT case, but Micorsoft claims that the
new EDI adapter is 100% compliant with the X12 and EDIFACT standards.... you
can draw your own conclusion from that ;-)

Hope this helps... Let me know if you need more specific information.

Thanks!
kevin


"hfdev" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Kevin,
>
> Here are transactions we deal with on a regular basis:
> * Outbound
> - Inbound
>
> X12
> * 810 Invoice
> - 820 Payment Order / Remittance Advice
> - 824 Application Advice
> - 830 Planning Schedule with Release Capability
> - 840 Request for Quotation
> - 850 Purchase Order
> * 855 Purchase Order Acknowledgment
> * 856 ASN
> - 860 Purchase Order Change Request
> - 861 Receiving Advice
> - 862 Shipping Schedule
> * 865 Purchase Order Change Acknowledgment
> *- 997 Functional Acknowledgment
>
> EDIFACT:
> - ORDERS (850)
> * ORDERSP (855)
> - DELFOR (830)
> * DESADV (856)
>
> Do you think we wll be able to handle these tranactions with EDI in BTS
> 2006
> R2?
>
> Thanks for your insight,
>
> Josh Blair
> HydraForce, inc.
>
> "Kevin Orbaker" wrote:
>
>> We have implemented the R2 EDI stack at a customer site. We have been
>> running the stack since Beta2 in a production environment and for our
>> purposes it has been VERY stable for the customer.
>>
>> We have been mainly dealing with 860, 865, 850, 855, and ack docs.
>>
>> If you have more specsific questions, let me know.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> "hfdev" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > Are any of you using EDI in BizTalk 2006 R2? If so, can you offer any
>> > insight on how that is going? My company is looking to migrate from a
>> > competitor's product to the EDI integration offered in R2. We are
>> > specifically concerned with X12 and Edifact. We have partners in the
>> > Americas and thoughout Europe.
>> >
>> > I see that there is a new book that was just released from Apress on
>> > EDI
>> > in
>> > BTS R2. I am waiting for it to be delivered. In the meantime, can you
>> > offer
>> > any suggestions on resources to get aquainted eith EDI on the BTS R2
>> > platform?
>> >
>> > Thanks for your insight,
>> >
>> > Josh Blair
>> > HydraForce, Inc.
>>
>>

Chris Holliday

We have been using R2 in production also since Beta 2. I dont think you will
have issues with the available transaction sets as these are largely just
schemas and the schemas are standards (as defined by both EDIFACT and X12).
R2 ships with thousands of schemas.

We have struggled with reporting ACK exceptions; either no ack was received
in the allotted period or the ack returned with errors and we need to
correlate it to the correct transaction to perform some workflow.

There is no built-in way to see what messages or batches have been acked and
which messages or batches havent been acked. The solution we built was an
engineering marvel and I would not recommend it. I suggest you complain to
MS to bring this to the table and either create some BAM views and/or bring
something to the application manager. We migrated from the Covast
accelerator and I will say that overall the MS solution is much more
scalable and easier to create customized adapter protocols or weird script
based solutions, but Covast was better from a reporting point of view.


"hfdev" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hello,
>
> Are any of you using EDI in BizTalk 2006 R2? If so, can you offer any
> insight on how that is going? My company is looking to migrate from a
> competitor's product to the EDI integration offered in R2. We are
> specifically concerned with X12 and Edifact. We have partners in the
> Americas and thoughout Europe.
>
> I see that there is a new book that was just released from Apress on EDI
> in
> BTS R2. I am waiting for it to be delivered. In the meantime, can you
> offer
> any suggestions on resources to get aquainted eith EDI on the BTS R2
> platform?
>
> Thanks for your insight,
>
> Josh Blair
> HydraForce, Inc.

hfdev

Chris,

Thanks for the heads up on the ACK reporting issues. It is good to know
about them now.

Cheers,

Josh Blair
HydraForce, Inc.

"Chris Holliday" wrote:

> We have been using R2 in production also since Beta 2. I dont think you will
> have issues with the available transaction sets as these are largely just
> schemas and the schemas are standards (as defined by both EDIFACT and X12).
> R2 ships with thousands of schemas.
>
> We have struggled with reporting ACK exceptions; either no ack was received
> in the allotted period or the ack returned with errors and we need to
> correlate it to the correct transaction to perform some workflow.
>
> There is no built-in way to see what messages or batches have been acked and
> which messages or batches havent been acked. The solution we built was an
> engineering marvel and I would not recommend it. I suggest you complain to
> MS to bring this to the table and either create some BAM views and/or bring
> something to the application manager. We migrated from the Covast
> accelerator and I will say that overall the MS solution is much more
> scalable and easier to create customized adapter protocols or weird script
> based solutions, but Covast was better from a reporting point of view.
>
>
> "hfdev" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > Hello,
> >
> > Are any of you using EDI in BizTalk 2006 R2? If so, can you offer any
> > insight on how that is going? My company is looking to migrate from a
> > competitor's product to the EDI integration offered in R2. We are
> > specifically concerned with X12 and Edifact. We have partners in the
> > Americas and thoughout Europe.
> >
> > I see that there is a new book that was just released from Apress on EDI
> > in
> > BTS R2. I am waiting for it to be delivered. In the meantime, can you
> > offer
> > any suggestions on resources to get aquainted eith EDI on the BTS R2
> > platform?
> >
> > Thanks for your insight,
> >
> > Josh Blair
> > HydraForce, Inc.
>
>
>

hfdev

Chris,

Thanks for the heads up on the ACK reporting issues. It is good to know
about them now.

Cheers,

Josh Blair
HydraForce, Inc.

"Chris Holliday" wrote:

> We have been using R2 in production also since Beta 2. I dont think you will
> have issues with the available transaction sets as these are largely just
> schemas and the schemas are standards (as defined by both EDIFACT and X12).
> R2 ships with thousands of schemas.
>
> We have struggled with reporting ACK exceptions; either no ack was received
> in the allotted period or the ack returned with errors and we need to
> correlate it to the correct transaction to perform some workflow.
>
> There is no built-in way to see what messages or batches have been acked and
> which messages or batches havent been acked. The solution we built was an
> engineering marvel and I would not recommend it. I suggest you complain to
> MS to bring this to the table and either create some BAM views and/or bring
> something to the application manager. We migrated from the Covast
> accelerator and I will say that overall the MS solution is much more
> scalable and easier to create customized adapter protocols or weird script
> based solutions, but Covast was better from a reporting point of view.
>
>
> "hfdev" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > Hello,
> >
> > Are any of you using EDI in BizTalk 2006 R2? If so, can you offer any
> > insight on how that is going? My company is looking to migrate from a
> > competitor's product to the EDI integration offered in R2. We are
> > specifically concerned with X12 and Edifact. We have partners in the
> > Americas and thoughout Europe.
> >
> > I see that there is a new book that was just released from Apress on EDI
> > in
> > BTS R2. I am waiting for it to be delivered. In the meantime, can you
> > offer
> > any suggestions on resources to get aquainted eith EDI on the BTS R2
> > platform?
> >
> > Thanks for your insight,
> >
> > Josh Blair
> > HydraForce, Inc.
>
>
>