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Unread 27-11-2007, 06:03 PM   #1
Jake
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Trash Folder in IMAP account!!

HOW can i make my Outlook 2007 automatically move my deleted IMAP emails to
the available IMAP trash folder (sure in the same IMAP account) instead of
marking them as deleted in the inbox or hiding them :-)

i tried to creat a rule to do that in vain :-( ?!?

help :-)
 
Unread 27-11-2007, 09:04 PM   #2
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RE: Trash Folder in IMAP account!!

Hello Jake,

You cannot move the deleted items to the trash folder.
The IMAP account works in a different way.
IMAP account creates a mirror image for outlook. You will only be able to
view the e-mails . Whereas POP3 allows you to download the e-mails to your
computer and you can move the e-mails from one folder to another.
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"Jake" wrote:

> HOW can i make my Outlook 2007 automatically move my deleted IMAP emails to
> the available IMAP trash folder (sure in the same IMAP account) instead of
> marking them as deleted in the inbox or hiding them :-)
>
> i tried to creat a rule to do that in vain :-( ?!?
>
> help :-)

 
Unread 27-11-2007, 11:01 PM   #3
Jake
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RE: Trash Folder in IMAP account!!

im afraid that the Outlook-2007 allows me to fully control all emails and
folders in an IMAP account!! not only a " mirror image" of the account :-)
and i have a full copy of the whole account on my machine, and what i do to
them on my machine is transferred then to the emails on the server.
there is an option to choose which folder to save the sent emails in but no
such an option for deleted emails :-(
thats why im asking whether it can be done by some rule ?!?!


"Techno Savvy" wrote:

> Hello Jake,
>
> You cannot move the deleted items to the trash folder.
> The IMAP account works in a different way.
> IMAP account creates a mirror image for outlook. You will only be able to
> view the e-mails . Whereas POP3 allows you to download the e-mails to your
> computer and you can move the e-mails from one folder to another.
> --
> Techno Savvy
> Microsoft corporation
> techno.savvy07***********
>
>
> "Jake" wrote:
>
> > HOW can i make my Outlook 2007 automatically move my deleted IMAP emails to
> > the available IMAP trash folder (sure in the same IMAP account) instead of
> > marking them as deleted in the inbox or hiding them :-)
> >
> > i tried to creat a rule to do that in vain :-( ?!?
> >
> > help :-)

 
Unread 28-11-2007, 03:02 PM   #4
Brian Tillman
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Re: Trash Folder in IMAP account!!

Jake <Jake@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> there is an option to choose which folder to save the sent emails in
> but no such an option for deleted emails :-(
> thats why im asking whether it can be done by some rule ?!?!


An IMAP account doesn't have a Deleted Items folder. The IMAP protocols
don't implement one. This isn't an Outlook issue, it's a general IMAP
issue. If you don't want to see the items marked for deletion, change your
view to "Hide Messages Marked for Deletion".
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Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

 
Unread 28-11-2007, 05:03 PM   #5
Jake
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Re: Trash Folder in IMAP account!!

I know its not an Outlook Issue and i know Imap doesnt support Deleted Items
folder. BUT i thought if there would be a trick to move the imap marked
emails to ONE folder!!

one solution to see ALL imap-marked emails in one folder is to create a
search folder with the criteria of (Imap statue: equals : marked) but thats
ONLY to see them all in one place, Physically they are still in there
original folders!



"Brian Tillman" wrote:

> Jake <Jake@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > there is an option to choose which folder to save the sent emails in
> > but no such an option for deleted emails :-(
> > thats why im asking whether it can be done by some rule ?!?!

>
> An IMAP account doesn't have a Deleted Items folder. The IMAP protocols
> don't implement one. This isn't an Outlook issue, it's a general IMAP
> issue. If you don't want to see the items marked for deletion, change your
> view to "Hide Messages Marked for Deletion".
> --
> Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]
>
>

 
Unread 28-11-2007, 06:06 PM   #6
Brian Tillman
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Re: Trash Folder in IMAP account!!

Jake <Jake@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> I know its not an Outlook Issue and i know Imap doesnt support
> Deleted Items folder. BUT i thought if there would be a trick to move
> the imap marked emails to ONE folder!!
>
> one solution to see ALL imap-marked emails in one folder is to create
> a search folder with the criteria of (Imap statue: equals : marked)
> but thats ONLY to see them all in one place, Physically they are
> still in there original folders!


Outlook itself has no way to automate the moving of IMAP items from one
folder to another.
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Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

 
Unread 05-12-2007, 09:30 AM   #7
Tomas Karban
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Re: Trash Folder in IMAP account!!

On Nov 28, 9:50 am, "Brian Tillman" <tillman1...***********> wrote:
> Jake <J...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > I know its not an Outlook Issue and i know Imap doesnt support
> > Deleted Items folder. BUT i thought if there would be a trick to move
> > the imap marked emails to ONE folder!!

>
> > one solution to see ALL imap-marked emails in one folder is to create
> > a search folder with the criteria of (Imap statue: equals : marked)
> > but thats ONLY to see them all in one place, Physically they are
> > still in there original folders!

>
> Outlook itself has no way to automate the moving of IMAP items from one
> folder to another.
> --
> Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]


Let's make this a feature request for Office14 then! If IMAP protocol
is limited and has no concept of deleted items, Outlook could as well
implement "delete" command as "move to a folder of user's choice" and
in addition provide something like "when synchronizing, delete (purge)
emails from that specific folder after they've been there for more
than X days". And all this should of course be an optional behavior
(in addition to current "pure IMAP").

That would make me and thousands of other IMAP users so happy! It
would make IMAP mailboxes more consistent with Exchange or POP3.

Regards,
Tomas Karban (tomas.karban@centrum.cz)
 
Unread 05-12-2007, 09:57 PM   #8
Brian Tillman
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Re: Trash Folder in IMAP account!!

Tomas Karban <tomas.karban***********> wrote:

> Let's make this a feature request for Office14 then!


Be my guest. It's certainly an idea that might reduce confusion for pelople
who don't understand that different account types behave differently.

> If IMAP protocol
> is limited and has no concept of deleted items, Outlook could as well
> implement "delete" command as "move to a folder of user's choice" and
> in addition provide something like "when synchronizing, delete (purge)
> emails from that specific folder after they've been there for more
> than X days". And all this should of course be an optional behavior
> (in addition to current "pure IMAP").


I've heard of at least one IMAP client that implements a "Deleted Items"
folder by the simple expedient of using the appropriate IMAP command to move
a message to a local folder and purge the IMAP server folder when a person
clicks a "Delete" button.
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

 
Unread 05-12-2007, 11:14 PM   #9
Brian Tillman
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Re: Trash Folder in IMAP account!!

Tomas Karban <tomas.karban***********> wrote:

> Let's make this a feature request for Office14 then!


Be my guest. It's certainly an idea that might reduce confusion for pelople
who don't understand that different account types behave differently.

> If IMAP protocol
> is limited and has no concept of deleted items, Outlook could as well
> implement "delete" command as "move to a folder of user's choice" and
> in addition provide something like "when synchronizing, delete (purge)
> emails from that specific folder after they've been there for more
> than X days". And all this should of course be an optional behavior
> (in addition to current "pure IMAP").


I've heard of at least one IMAP client that implements a "Deleted Items"
folder by the simple expedient of using the appropriate IMAP command to move
a message to a local folder and purge the IMAP server folder when a person
clicks a "Delete" button.
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

 
Unread 06-12-2007, 12:51 AM   #10
Brian Tillman
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Re: Trash Folder in IMAP account!!

Tomas Karban <tomas.karban***********> wrote:

> Let's make this a feature request for Office14 then!


Be my guest. It's certainly an idea that might reduce confusion for pelople
who don't understand that different account types behave differently.

> If IMAP protocol
> is limited and has no concept of deleted items, Outlook could as well
> implement "delete" command as "move to a folder of user's choice" and
> in addition provide something like "when synchronizing, delete (purge)
> emails from that specific folder after they've been there for more
> than X days". And all this should of course be an optional behavior
> (in addition to current "pure IMAP").


I've heard of at least one IMAP client that implements a "Deleted Items"
folder by the simple expedient of using the appropriate IMAP command to move
a message to a local folder and purge the IMAP server folder when a person
clicks a "Delete" button.
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

 
 

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