Brian K

On 8/12/2007 11:53 PM RobertPatrick exclaimed:
> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote in
> news:Xns998AE1211EF2Anoonehomecom@208.49.80.253:
>
>
>> Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote in
>> news:g_idnWZqd_qoGyLbnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@giganews.com :
>>
>>
>>> It's "the network" that, like in the TV ad, follows you around,
>>> everywhere.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> It doesn't follow you around in Walmart where it says NO SERVICE.
>> That's the problem...(c;
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> I know! geesh.
>
There are very few cell phones that work inside a brick and steel I-beam
building. When I go to B.J.'s Warehouse, Wal-Mart or such, I need to be
near a window or door to get a signal. That's been true for just about
every cell phone / carrier I've used. It may very well be the nature of
the beast.

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BruceR

Brian K wrote:
> On 8/12/2007 11:53 PM RobertPatrick exclaimed:
>> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote in
>> news:Xns998AE1211EF2Anoonehomecom@208.49.80.253:
>>
>>
>>> Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote in
>>> news:g_idnWZqd_qoGyLbnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@giganews.com :
>>>
>>>
>>>> It's "the network" that, like in the TV ad, follows you around,
>>>> everywhere.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It doesn't follow you around in Walmart where it says NO SERVICE.
>>> That's the problem...(c;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I know! geesh.
>>
> There are very few cell phones that work inside a brick and steel
> I-beam building. When I go to B.J.'s Warehouse, Wal-Mart or such, I
> need to be near a window or door to get a signal. That's been true
> for just about every cell phone / carrier I've used. It may very
> well be the nature of the beast.


My experience using TMobile has been different. At places like Wal-Mart,
Costco, Sam's Club, Home Depot, etc, my wife and I always call each
other when we're done with our individual browsing to find each other
and head to the checkout counter.

Lisa BB.

"BruceR" <razrbruce@NOgmailSPAM.com> wrote in
news:46c115e1$0$12232$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

>
>
> Brian K wrote:
>> On 8/12/2007 11:53 PM RobertPatrick exclaimed:
>>> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote in
>>> news:Xns998AE1211EF2Anoonehomecom@208.49.80.253:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote in
>>>> news:g_idnWZqd_qoGyLbnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@giganews.com :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It's "the network" that, like in the TV ad, follows you around,
>>>>> everywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> It doesn't follow you around in Walmart where it says NO SERVICE.
>>>> That's the problem...(c;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I know! geesh.
>>>
>> There are very few cell phones that work inside a brick and steel
>> I-beam building. When I go to B.J.'s Warehouse, Wal-Mart or such, I
>> need to be near a window or door to get a signal. That's been true
>> for just about every cell phone / carrier I've used. It may very
>> well be the nature of the beast.
>
>
> My experience using TMobile has been different. At places like Wal-Mart,
> Costco, Sam's Club, Home Depot, etc, my wife and I always call each
> other when we're done with our individual browsing to find each other
> and head to the checkout counter.
>
>
>

T-mobile service is bad. I live in a medium to large metro area. The
phone won't connect half the time. I sent back the phone and got a refund.
And canelled service. It was a package deal on HSN.

BruceR

Lisa BB. wrote:
> "BruceR" <razrbruce@NOgmailSPAM.com> wrote in
> news:46c115e1$0$12232$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>
>>
>>
>> Brian K wrote:
>>> On 8/12/2007 11:53 PM RobertPatrick exclaimed:
>>>> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote in
>>>> news:Xns998AE1211EF2Anoonehomecom@208.49.80.253:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote in
>>>>> news:g_idnWZqd_qoGyLbnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@giganews.com :
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's "the network" that, like in the TV ad, follows you around,
>>>>>> everywhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> It doesn't follow you around in Walmart where it says NO SERVICE.
>>>>> That's the problem...(c;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I know! geesh.
>>>>
>>> There are very few cell phones that work inside a brick and steel
>>> I-beam building. When I go to B.J.'s Warehouse, Wal-Mart or such, I
>>> need to be near a window or door to get a signal. That's been true
>>> for just about every cell phone / carrier I've used. It may very
>>> well be the nature of the beast.
>>
>>
>> My experience using TMobile has been different. At places like
>> Wal-Mart, Costco, Sam's Club, Home Depot, etc, my wife and I always
>> call each other when we're done with our individual browsing to find
>> each other and head to the checkout counter.
>>
>>
>>
>
> T-mobile service is bad. I live in a medium to large metro area. The
> phone won't connect half the time. I sent back the phone and got a
> refund. And canelled service. It was a package deal on HSN.

Like all carriers, service quality varies by area. In my hometown of
Honolulu and places I frequently visit such as southern California,
Florida and Houston, TX I find the service to be excellent - fact I've
had no problems anywhere I've gone in the USA. T-Mobile has a quality
of service guide that is very accurate on their website. You can check
the quality right down to a specific street.

To make a blanket statement like "(Any Carrier) is bad" based on one
phone in one (unstated) area is not particularly accurate or helpful.
Did you also consider that you may have had a bad phone?

B'ichela

In article <46c14c76$0$4673$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, BruceR wrote:
>> T-mobile service is bad. I live in a medium to large metro area. The
>> phone won't connect half the time. I sent back the phone and got a
>> refund. And canelled service. It was a package deal on HSN.
>
> Like all carriers, service quality varies by area. In my hometown of
> Honolulu and places I frequently visit such as southern California,
> Florida and Houston, TX I find the service to be excellent - fact I've
> had no problems anywhere I've gone in the USA. T-Mobile has a quality
> of service guide that is very accurate on their website. You can check
> the quality right down to a specific street.
I Agree T-Mobile in Torrington Connecticut is great! but
because they use 1900MHZ... Not great in Stone buildings (Salvation
Army, Saint Marons, Torrington Community Soup Kitchen probally a few
others) but In my apartment I hit all 7 of the 7 bars of my Nokia
6340i without a problem!
Contrast that with my Alltel Nokia 3585i, its the same deal
signal wise. Only in my apartment I only get 4 bars out of 7.

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"Les Long" <ldlong@iwon.com> wrote in message
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>I live under the same condition. I have no service inside the house. I had
> an extra magnetic antenna for the vehicle. I put the antenna on top of the
> roof and ran the wire inside through a window. I have two bars of signal
> now. Not able to walk around inside the house and talk but can set in my
> chair and talk all I want.
> Maybe it will work for you.
>
> <ThrowAwayAddress@isd.net> wrote in message
> news:13bua5j6571pb67@corp.supernews.com...
>> When we go to the (recently-aquired) cabin we are just on the edge of
>> cell
>> phone service.
>> We can get a signal less than a mile from the cabin, in terrain that is
>> heavily forested and has variances of elevation of no more than 50 feet
>> vertical
>> We really don't want to have permanent (line) phone service in the cabin,
>> but it would be nice to have cell phone service just in case
>>
>> Someone suggested we get a cell phone booster for the car and/or cabin
>>
>> Any advice and experience with such a device would be appreciated
>>
>> Oh yes, primary service is T-Mobile
>> But Cingular is the provider in and around the cabin
>> The phones are Motorola Razor V3s
>> We also have some Motorola V300s that could be left at the cabin for 911
> if
>> a booster is a solution



Sorry I wans't clear
I'm not getting ANY service IN OR OUT of the cabin.
Tried climbing on the roof (A-Frame 40+ feet) and got no signal there
either.
Also tried it on the middle of the lake about 150 yards from the cabin.
No joy.
As I wrote, the nearest point where I get service is a mile down the road

Larry

<ThrowAwayAddress@isd.net> wrote in
news:13ccs3qobhqp635@corp.supernews.com:

> Sorry I wans't clear
> I'm not getting ANY service IN OR OUT of the cabin.
> Tried climbing on the roof (A-Frame 40+ feet) and got no signal
> there
> either.
> Also tried it on the middle of the lake about 150 yards from the
> cabin.
> No joy.
> As I wrote, the nearest point where I get service is a mile down the
> road
>
>

The amp won't help you. There must be some signal for it to work. You
are in a shadow from all the cells. What's needed is a hilltop repeater
to fill in the shadow. That won't happen, in America, like it does all
over Europe to improve smoother coverage. There's repeaters all over in
places like Switzerland.



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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:01:44 -0500, <ThrowAwayAddress@isd.net> wrote:

>
>"Les Long" <ldlong@iwon.com> wrote in message
>news:znHvi.31714$ax1.18190@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>I live under the same condition. I have no service inside the house. I had
>> an extra magnetic antenna for the vehicle. I put the antenna on top of the
>> roof and ran the wire inside through a window. I have two bars of signal
>> now. Not able to walk around inside the house and talk but can set in my
>> chair and talk all I want.
>> Maybe it will work for you.
>>
>> <ThrowAwayAddress@isd.net> wrote in message
>> news:13bua5j6571pb67@corp.supernews.com...
>>> When we go to the (recently-aquired) cabin we are just on the edge of
>>> cell
>>> phone service.
>>> We can get a signal less than a mile from the cabin, in terrain that is
>>> heavily forested and has variances of elevation of no more than 50 feet
>>> vertical
>>> We really don't want to have permanent (line) phone service in the cabin,
>>> but it would be nice to have cell phone service just in case
>>>
>>> Someone suggested we get a cell phone booster for the car and/or cabin
>>>
>>> Any advice and experience with such a device would be appreciated
>>>
>>> Oh yes, primary service is T-Mobile
>>> But Cingular is the provider in and around the cabin
>>> The phones are Motorola Razor V3s
>>> We also have some Motorola V300s that could be left at the cabin for 911
>> if
>>> a booster is a solution
>
>
>
>Sorry I wans't clear
>I'm not getting ANY service IN OR OUT of the cabin.
> Tried climbing on the roof (A-Frame 40+ feet) and got no signal there
>either.
> Also tried it on the middle of the lake about 150 yards from the cabin.
>No joy.
>As I wrote, the nearest point where I get service is a mile down the road

maybe one of the antenna's on this page would help

http://cellantenna.com/Antennas/magneticmount.htm
>
>

Les Long

Hate to say it but you are SOL

No cheap way of getting it done.

Now it depends on how much you want to spend.
You could have a tower installed, correct antenna and amps to boost signal
in and out.
You could go with a Satellite phone.
Or
You could check with Internet satellite service that has the capability of
using VOIP.

I think I would just drive the 2 miles round trip to use the phone and tell
family and friends to leave a voice message if they need to contact you.


<ThrowAwayAddress@isd.net> wrote in message
news:13ccs3qobhqp635@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Les Long" <ldlong@iwon.com> wrote in message
> news:znHvi.31714$ax1.18190@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >I live under the same condition. I have no service inside the house. I
had
> > an extra magnetic antenna for the vehicle. I put the antenna on top of
the
> > roof and ran the wire inside through a window. I have two bars of signal
> > now. Not able to walk around inside the house and talk but can set in my
> > chair and talk all I want.
> > Maybe it will work for you.
> >
> > <ThrowAwayAddress@isd.net> wrote in message
> > news:13bua5j6571pb67@corp.supernews.com...
> >> When we go to the (recently-aquired) cabin we are just on the edge of
> >> cell
> >> phone service.
> >> We can get a signal less than a mile from the cabin, in terrain that is
> >> heavily forested and has variances of elevation of no more than 50 feet
> >> vertical
> >> We really don't want to have permanent (line) phone service in the
cabin,
> >> but it would be nice to have cell phone service just in case
> >>
> >> Someone suggested we get a cell phone booster for the car and/or cabin
> >>
> >> Any advice and experience with such a device would be appreciated
> >>
> >> Oh yes, primary service is T-Mobile
> >> But Cingular is the provider in and around the cabin
> >> The phones are Motorola Razor V3s
> >> We also have some Motorola V300s that could be left at the cabin for
911
> > if
> >> a booster is a solution
>
>
>
> Sorry I wans't clear
> I'm not getting ANY service IN OR OUT of the cabin.
> Tried climbing on the roof (A-Frame 40+ feet) and got no signal there
> either.
> Also tried it on the middle of the lake about 150 yards from the
cabin.
> No joy.
> As I wrote, the nearest point where I get service is a mile down the road
>
>
>

V Green

"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns999058EC6B703noonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> <ThrowAwayAddress@isd.net> wrote in
> news:13ccs3qobhqp635@corp.supernews.com:
>
> > Sorry I wans't clear
> > I'm not getting ANY service IN OR OUT of the cabin.
> > Tried climbing on the roof (A-Frame 40+ feet) and got no signal
> > there
> > either.
> > Also tried it on the middle of the lake about 150 yards from the
> > cabin.
> > No joy.
> > As I wrote, the nearest point where I get service is a mile down the
> > road
> >
> >
>
> The amp won't help you. There must be some signal for it to work. You
> are in a shadow from all the cells.


Technically correct, but in reality it might still work.

I have the same situation in Southern Utah. I get NO
signal AT ALL with the bogus antenna on the phone,
but -87 to -91 with a DA-4000 and a 15dBi Yagi.

Plenty enough to sustain CDMA calls with Alltel, and
this by bouncing the signal off of a set of 1000' sandstone
cliffs and then BACK to the cell site. You should put
your antenna as high as possible to clear the trees.

RF performance of the "toy" cell phones of the last
few years is awful. Older phones work better. I'm
using a Kyocera 3250, the current LG offerings from
Alltel are abysmal performers in remote situations, but
they take pictures and play MP3's. Whoopee. Who cares. I've
bought a lifetime supply of 3250's of Ebay (cheap) so I am set.

Find a supplier who will give your money back if it
doesn't work (many will), buy an amp, GOOD low-loss cable
(LMR-600 not RG8X or LMR-400 - it DOES make a difference,
despite the argument that my assertion here will start), and try it.
Figure about $500 for everything.

>
>
>
> These bastards keep calling me so I'm feeding them to the spambots.
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> Springfield, MO 65804
> 866-483-1228
> 417-886-7091
> http://www.sunrisecommunicationsinc.com/
> 877-842-3210
> 866-842-3278
> United Healthcare
> http://www.unitedhealthcareonline.com/