AZ Nomad

On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 10:13:37 -0700, V Green <vanceg@nowhere.net> wrote:



>"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
>news:Xns999058EC6B703noonehomecom@208.49.80.253.. .
>> <ThrowAwayAddress@isd.net> wrote in
>> news:13ccs3qobhqp635@corp.supernews.com:
>>
>> > Sorry I wans't clear
>> > I'm not getting ANY service IN OR OUT of the cabin.
>> > Tried climbing on the roof (A-Frame 40+ feet) and got no signal
>> > there
>> > either.
>> > Also tried it on the middle of the lake about 150 yards from the
>> > cabin.
>> > No joy.
>> > As I wrote, the nearest point where I get service is a mile down the
>> > road
>> >
>> >
>>
>> The amp won't help you. There must be some signal for it to work. You
>> are in a shadow from all the cells.


>Technically correct, but in reality it might still work.

Sure. All you need is a 7500' antenna on the roof. A satphone might be
a bit cheaper.

V Green

"AZ Nomad" <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in message
news:slrnfcef89.k77.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net...
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 10:13:37 -0700, V Green <vanceg@nowhere.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> >"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
> >news:Xns999058EC6B703noonehomecom@208.49.80.253.. .
> >> <ThrowAwayAddress@isd.net> wrote in
> >> news:13ccs3qobhqp635@corp.supernews.com:
> >>
> >> > Sorry I wans't clear
> >> > I'm not getting ANY service IN OR OUT of the cabin.
> >> > Tried climbing on the roof (A-Frame 40+ feet) and got no signal
> >> > there
> >> > either.
> >> > Also tried it on the middle of the lake about 150 yards from the
> >> > cabin.
> >> > No joy.
> >> > As I wrote, the nearest point where I get service is a mile down the
> >> > road
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> The amp won't help you. There must be some signal for it to work. You
> >> are in a shadow from all the cells.
>
>
> >Technically correct, but in reality it might still work.
>
> Sure. All you need is a 7500' antenna on the roof. A satphone might be
> a bit cheaper.

Look. I'm telling you that I get NO signal AT ALL
with the built-in antenna, but that I can make calls
AT THE SAME SPOT with the appropriate setup (which as
I said, ran me about $500.) If you choose
to not believe me, that's your perogative.

At least let the OP decide for himself.

AZ Nomad

On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 11:45:07 -0700, V Green <vanceg@nowhere.net> wrote:



>"AZ Nomad" <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in message
>news:slrnfcef89.k77.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net...
>> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 10:13:37 -0700, V Green <vanceg@nowhere.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
>> >news:Xns999058EC6B703noonehomecom@208.49.80.253.. .
>> >> <ThrowAwayAddress@isd.net> wrote in
>> >> news:13ccs3qobhqp635@corp.supernews.com:
>> >>
>> >> > Sorry I wans't clear
>> >> > I'm not getting ANY service IN OR OUT of the cabin.
>> >> > Tried climbing on the roof (A-Frame 40+ feet) and got no signal
>> >> > there
>> >> > either.
>> >> > Also tried it on the middle of the lake about 150 yards from the
>> >> > cabin.
>> >> > No joy.
>> >> > As I wrote, the nearest point where I get service is a mile down the
>> >> > road
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> The amp won't help you. There must be some signal for it to work. You
>> >> are in a shadow from all the cells.
>>
>>
>> >Technically correct, but in reality it might still work.
>>
>> Sure. All you need is a 7500' antenna on the roof. A satphone might be
>> a bit cheaper.

>Look. I'm telling you that I get NO signal AT ALL
>with the built-in antenna, but that I can make calls
>AT THE SAME SPOT with the appropriate setup (which as
>I said, ran me about $500.) If you choose
>to not believe me, that's your perogative.

Yeah, you're lying. A thousand times zero is still zero.

Todd Allcock

At 18 Aug 2007 20:22:47 +0000 AZ Nomad wrote:

> Yeah, you're lying. A thousand times zero is still zero.


But who says the signal is actually "zero." Just because it's below
a level the phone's signal strength meter registers as usable doesn't
necessarily mean there isn't a signal for the amp to latch on to.

--

"I don't need my cell phone to play video games or take pictures
or double as a Walkie-Talkie; I just need it to work. Thanks for
all the bells and whistles, but I could communicate better with
ACTUAL bells and whistles." -Bill Maher 9/25/2003

V Green

"AZ Nomad" <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 11:45:07 -0700, V Green <vanceg@nowhere.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> >"AZ Nomad" <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in message
> >news:slrnfcef89.k77.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net...
> >> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 10:13:37 -0700, V Green <vanceg@nowhere.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:Xns999058EC6B703noonehomecom@208.49.80.253.. .
> >> >> <ThrowAwayAddress@isd.net> wrote in
> >> >> news:13ccs3qobhqp635@corp.supernews.com:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Sorry I wans't clear
> >> >> > I'm not getting ANY service IN OR OUT of the cabin.
> >> >> > Tried climbing on the roof (A-Frame 40+ feet) and got no signal
> >> >> > there
> >> >> > either.
> >> >> > Also tried it on the middle of the lake about 150 yards from the
> >> >> > cabin.
> >> >> > No joy.
> >> >> > As I wrote, the nearest point where I get service is a mile down the
> >> >> > road
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> The amp won't help you. There must be some signal for it to work. You
> >> >> are in a shadow from all the cells.
> >>
> >>
> >> >Technically correct, but in reality it might still work.
> >>
> >> Sure. All you need is a 7500' antenna on the roof. A satphone might be
> >> a bit cheaper.
>
> >Look. I'm telling you that I get NO signal AT ALL
> >with the built-in antenna, but that I can make calls
> >AT THE SAME SPOT with the appropriate setup (which as
> >I said, ran me about $500.) If you choose
> >to not believe me, that's your perogative.
>
> Yeah, you're lying. A thousand times zero is still zero.

Look, numbnuts, just because the crap antenna on the
PHONE shows no signal doesn't mean there ISN'T any,
it just means that stock antenna isn't good enough to see it.

Get it?

Geezzzzzz...

AZ Nomad

On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:48:35 -0600, Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:


>At 18 Aug 2007 20:22:47 +0000 AZ Nomad wrote:

>> Yeah, you're lying. A thousand times zero is still zero.


>But who says the signal is actually "zero." Just because it's below
>a level the phone's signal strength meter registers as usable doesn't
>necessarily mean there isn't a signal for the amp to latch on to.

amplifiers don't latch on to signals.

Max Signal

There may not be a signal there strong enough for your phone to use but
a direct connect amplifier can sense that signal and amplify it so it is
usable to . Wireless amplifiers do require more signal to work with


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BruceR

AZ Nomad wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:48:35 -0600, Todd Allcock
> <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
>
>
>> At 18 Aug 2007 20:22:47 +0000 AZ Nomad wrote:
>
>>> Yeah, you're lying. A thousand times zero is still zero.
>
>
>> But who says the signal is actually "zero." Just because it's below
>> a level the phone's signal strength meter registers as usable doesn't
>> necessarily mean there isn't a signal for the amp to latch on to.
>
> amplifiers don't latch on to signals.

A sensitive antenna setup can receive an otherwise unuseable signal and
amplify it to useable strength.

cellular@motorola.net

On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:45:04 GMT, "Les Long" <ldlong@iwon.com> wrote this
with the utmost thought:

>Hate to say it but you are SOL
>
>No cheap way of getting it done.
>
>Now it depends on how much you want to spend.
>You could have a tower installed, correct antenna and amps to boost signal
>in and out.
>You could go with a Satellite phone.
>Or
>You could check with Internet satellite service that has the capability of
>using VOIP.
>
>I think I would just drive the 2 miles round trip to use the phone and tell
>family and friends to leave a voice message if they need to contact you.

Brilliant thinking *if* the OP is incapacitated in the cabin and needs to
call 911. Perhaps the cheapest overall option would be to move the cabin a
mile or so until within signal reception

>
><ThrowAwayAddress@isd.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Les Long" <ldlong@iwon.com> wrote in message
>> news:znHvi.31714$ax1.18190@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> >I live under the same condition. I have no service inside the house. I
>had
>> > an extra magnetic antenna for the vehicle. I put the antenna on top of
>the
>> > roof and ran the wire inside through a window. I have two bars of signal
>> > now. Not able to walk around inside the house and talk but can set in my
>> > chair and talk all I want.
>> > Maybe it will work for you.
>> >
>> > <ThrowAwayAddress@isd.net> wrote in message
>> > news:13bua5j6571pb67@corp.supernews.com...
>> >> When we go to the (recently-aquired) cabin we are just on the edge of
>> >> cell
>> >> phone service.
>> >> We can get a signal less than a mile from the cabin, in terrain that is
>> >> heavily forested and has variances of elevation of no more than 50 feet
>> >> vertical
>> >> We really don't want to have permanent (line) phone service in the
>cabin,
>> >> but it would be nice to have cell phone service just in case
>> >>
>> >> Someone suggested we get a cell phone booster for the car and/or cabin
>> >>
>> >> Any advice and experience with such a device would be appreciated
>> >>
>> >> Oh yes, primary service is T-Mobile
>> >> But Cingular is the provider in and around the cabin
>> >> The phones are Motorola Razor V3s
>> >> We also have some Motorola V300s that could be left at the cabin for
>911
>> > if
>> >> a booster is a solution
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry I wans't clear
>> I'm not getting ANY service IN OR OUT of the cabin.
>> Tried climbing on the roof (A-Frame 40+ feet) and got no signal there
>> either.
>> Also tried it on the middle of the lake about 150 yards from the
>cabin.
>> No joy.
>> As I wrote, the nearest point where I get service is a mile down the road
>>
>>
>>
>

AZ Nomad

On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:00:57 -1000, BruceR <razrbruce@NOgmailSPAM.com> wrote:




> AZ Nomad wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:48:35 -0600, Todd Allcock
>> <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> At 18 Aug 2007 20:22:47 +0000 AZ Nomad wrote:
>>
>>>> Yeah, you're lying. A thousand times zero is still zero.
>>
>>
>>> But who says the signal is actually "zero." Just because it's below
>>> a level the phone's signal strength meter registers as usable doesn't
>>> necessarily mean there isn't a signal for the amp to latch on to.
>>
>> amplifiers don't latch on to signals.

>A sensitive antenna setup can receive an otherwise unuseable signal and
>amplify it to useable strength.

If the signal is unuseable, the amplified signal will be no better. You'll
amplifify noise as well and the signal will in fact be less useable.