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Old 20-11-2007, 11:46 AM   #21
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Re: Vodafone TERRIFIED of iPhone - Seeks Restraining Order!

CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote:

> > in the the country of Germany. They can't stand the iPhone's pressure,
> > so are seeking court relief before they go under.

>
> Go under? Aren't they the largest cell company on the planet?


yes, thanks for proving my point. Vodafone is financially weak and
likely can't survive the advancements of the iPhone in their
non-competitive markets.

SJ tends to calls these firms "squishy".

Now you know.

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Old 20-11-2007, 11:46 AM   #22
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Re: Vodafone TERRIFIED of iPhone - Seeks Restraining Order!

CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote:

> > in the the country of Germany. They can't stand the iPhone's pressure,
> > so are seeking court relief before they go under.

>
> Go under? Aren't they the largest cell company on the planet?


yes, thanks for proving my point. Vodafone is financially weak and
likely can't survive the advancements of the iPhone in their
non-competitive markets.

SJ tends to calls these firms "squishy".

Now you know.

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Old 20-11-2007, 11:46 AM   #23
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Re: Vodafone TERRIFIED of iPhone - Seeks Restraining Order!

Oxford <linuxlovesosx@superart.com> wrote in news:linuxlovesosx-
20F472.21273319112007@mpls-nnrp-03.inet.qwest.net:

> DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:
>
>> Ummm...the suit is about business practices.

>
> yes, but only under the thin guise of... FUCK! --- the iPhone is selling
> far better than we expected. It's eating our business alive, let's sue!
>


Funny- I don't see mention of that ANYWHERE but out of your disabled brain.
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Old 20-11-2007, 11:46 AM   #24
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Re: Vodafone TERRIFIED of iPhone - Seeks Restraining Order!

Oxford <linuxlovesosx@superart.com> wrote in news:linuxlovesosx-
20F472.21273319112007@mpls-nnrp-03.inet.qwest.net:

> DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:
>
>> Ummm...the suit is about business practices.

>
> yes, but only under the thin guise of... FUCK! --- the iPhone is selling
> far better than we expected. It's eating our business alive, let's sue!
>


Funny- I don't see mention of that ANYWHERE but out of your disabled brain.
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Old 20-11-2007, 11:46 AM   #25
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Re: Vodafone TERRIFIED of iPhone - Seeks Restraining Order!

Jon wrote:
> AppleTV


Is THAT still around??
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Old 20-11-2007, 11:46 AM   #26
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Re: Vodafone TERRIFIED of iPhone - Seeks Restraining Order!

Jon wrote:
> AppleTV


Is THAT still around??
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Old 20-11-2007, 07:29 PM   #27
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Re: Vodafone TERRIFIED of iPhone - Seeks Restraining Order!

MuahMan wrote:
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> "DTC" <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote in message
> news:FMt0j.23869$JD.887@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net ...
>> Jon wrote:
>>> AppleTV

>>
>> Is THAT still around??

>
> There are pallets of dusty Apple TV's for like $99 dollars at Costco. LOL

Yep, AppleTV was epic failure by Apple.
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Old 20-11-2007, 09:31 PM   #28
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Re: Vodafone TERRIFIED of iPhone - Seeks Restraining Order!

In article
<linuxlovesosx-874348.17000319112007@mpls-nnrp-03.inet.qwest.net>,
Oxford <linuxlovesosx@superart.com> wrote:

> Gosh people! just get an iPhone and get on with life... no other Cell
> Carrier is going to be able to compete against Apple in the handset
> market, Apple is just too experienced in building high quality small
> devices...

You're an idiot.
Apple is not more experienced than all companies at building small
devices, nor are they best in every way.
Cell _carriers_ are not competing against Apple, you fool. The carriers
are competing against other carriers, and Apple makes a handset.

> WE ALL know that. Learn a better way, don't try and fight the old guard.

Apple is not the 'old guard' you moron.
But either way, the sentiment is STUPID. It is always important to
fight the old guard when the old guard is serving you badly or corrupt.

> Move up in the world!

Buying an iPhone does not move you up in the world.
Fighting the 'old guard' does not move you up in the world.
Being a consumer of a popular device does not move you up in the world.


And, note this --

dumping hugely inappropriate messages all over every group you care to
infect, full of lies and misleading facts, full of broad claims and
stupidity, certainly does NOT move Oxford up in the world!
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Old 21-11-2007, 02:29 AM   #29
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Re: NO!! Oxford is FULL of crap - as ALWAYS

"Ness-Net" <richard.no@more.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:

> Here is the REAL facts...
>
> Vodafone did not ask the court to stop T-Mobile from selling the iPhone,
> Gordon said.
> Vodafone would like to see a court eventually mandate that T-Mobile sell an
> unlocked
> version of the iPhone for the same or less as today's locked version, he
> said.
>
> http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...otests_tmobile
> _iphone_sales.html
>
> I don't think I've ever seen someone (Oxford) more consistently full of
> shit.


Yes, but from a LEGAL perspective Vodafone is TERRIFIED of losing
customers to the iPhone, so they are trying to open up holes so they can
obtain revenue from the iPhone without committing to the future.

No handset maker can now compete in the Cell Market against the iPhone,
that's a pure fact. Apple has too many patents on the future, so
everyone must either bow down to Apple or go out of business.

These are the facts... cell carriers and handset makers must face.

Do a great deal with Apple to carry the iPhone, or disappear.

Those are the only 2 choices for the next several decades.

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Old 21-11-2007, 02:29 AM   #30
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Re: NO!! Oxford is FULL of crap - as ALWAYS

In article
<linuxlovesosx-2D1408.13355220112007@mpls-nnrp-04.inet.qwest.net>,
Oxford <linuxlovesosx@superart.com> wrote:

> No handset maker can now compete in the Cell Market against the iPhone,
> that's a pure fact.


Nonsense.

Different people use cell phones for different purposes; quite a lot of
people use them simply as phones. For that purpose something
considerably smaller, lighter cheaper and simpler makes a lot more sense
than the iPhone.

Some people use them to connect to the internet. Whatever you may think
is going to happen, at present open WiFi networks are not available in
most places, at least in my experience. Under those circumstances, a 3G
phone provides a better connection, especially for tethering, than the
iPhone.

I could go on. The iPhone is a very pretty piece of technology, and for
some users probably the best phone available, but not for all, probably
not for most.

> Apple has too many patents on the future, so
> everyone must either bow down to Apple or go out of business.


This is the sort of comment--a statement apparently made because it lets
you feel good about posturing rather than because there is any reason to
think it is true--that gives me some sympathy with the posters who spend
their time exchanging insults with you instead of actually posting about
something interesting.

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