Paul Thurrott - "You need an iPhone"

David Moyer

"Carl" <> wrote:

> I believe what you're referring to is its usability with Microsoft EXCHANGE,
> not synchronization with Outlook. I don't use MS Exchange. My business
> needs are not that sophisticated. The BB syncs directly with MS Outlook
> without Exchange.

nah, there are two levels of syncing for PC users... "exchange level"
which is more for enterprise, then "mobileme" which is for smaller
firms, families, students, etc. if your still trying to use a PC,
mobileme is what is going to work with outlook without having an
exchange server.

DubbelDubbery

"David Moyer" <> schreef in bericht
news:.com...
>a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
>
> Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>
> "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
> than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
> device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
> How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
> ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
> before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
> computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
> used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
> on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>
> much more here....
>
>
>
>

I am still waiting for the AmigA phone, until then......... ;o)

Jim Mason

In article <4850d2d2$0$14342$>,
says...

> I am still waiting for the AmigA phone, until then......... ;o)

The N95 is as close as you will get.

Carl

David Moyer wrote:
> "Carl" <> wrote:
>
>> I believe what you're referring to is its usability with Microsoft
>> EXCHANGE, not synchronization with Outlook. I don't use MS
>> Exchange. My business needs are not that sophisticated. The BB
>> syncs directly with MS Outlook without Exchange.
>
> nah, there are two levels of syncing for PC users... "exchange level"
> which is more for enterprise, then "mobileme" which is for smaller
> firms, families, students, etc. if your still trying to use a PC,
> mobileme is what is going to work with outlook without having an
> exchange server.
>
>
>
Yes, thanks to all of you who have pointed me to Mobileme, which I was not
aware of until one helpful poster (before you I mean) posted it last night.

And that program makes the iPhone more appealing to me. However, and I don't
mean to be trying to throw roadblocks of rationalizations at you all, I
believe neither MS Exchange nor Mobileme sychronize the task list or Notes,
but only the calendar and address book. I did mention all four functions in
my original post. I use them all. Any information or workarounds on these
two functions?

Carl

David Moyer wrote:
> "Carl" <> wrote:
>
>> I believe what you're referring to is its usability with Microsoft
>> EXCHANGE, not synchronization with Outlook. I don't use MS
>> Exchange. My business needs are not that sophisticated. The BB
>> syncs directly with MS Outlook without Exchange.
>
> nah, there are two levels of syncing for PC users... "exchange level"
> which is more for enterprise, then "mobileme" which is for smaller
> firms, families, students, etc. if your still trying to use a PC,
> mobileme is what is going to work with outlook without having an
> exchange server.
>
>
>
I believe I've gathered some more information on mobileme and
synchronization with MS Outlook, my personal requirement for switching from
a BB to an iPhone.

While the info is still murky, from what I gathered mobileme will come at a
cost of $100 for a single-user license. I also believe that this only
licenses the product for your use for one year. If I understood that right,
you'll be needing to pay again after that year. Therefore, while the new
version of the phone looks cheap, you'll be paying about $70/month for phone
and unlimited data service, and another $9/month for mobileme, not that
inexpensive. It seems it also only syncs your calendar and phone book
(besides your photos), but not your notes or task list.

So, a nice gadget, but still not a Blackberry in the respect that a
semi-business user such as myself might want to use such a device, and for
me, at much greater cost.

Steve de Mena

Carl wrote:
> David Moyer wrote:
>> "Carl" <> wrote:
>>
>>> I believe what you're referring to is its usability with Microsoft
>>> EXCHANGE, not synchronization with Outlook. I don't use MS
>>> Exchange. My business needs are not that sophisticated. The BB
>>> syncs directly with MS Outlook without Exchange.
>> nah, there are two levels of syncing for PC users... "exchange level"
>> which is more for enterprise, then "mobileme" which is for smaller
>> firms, families, students, etc. if your still trying to use a PC,
>> mobileme is what is going to work with outlook without having an
>> exchange server.
>>
>>
>>
> I believe I've gathered some more information on mobileme and
> synchronization with MS Outlook, my personal requirement for switching from
> a BB to an iPhone.
>
> While the info is still murky, from what I gathered mobileme will come at a
> cost of $100 for a single-user license. I also believe that this only
> licenses the product for your use for one year. If I understood that right,
> you'll be needing to pay again after that year. Therefore, while the new
> version of the phone looks cheap, you'll be paying about $70/month for phone
> and unlimited data service, and another $9/month for mobileme, not that
> inexpensive. It seems it also only syncs your calendar and phone book
> (besides your photos), but not your notes or task list.

Do you use Apple Macs? If so, than mobile me adds more value. Web
sites, iDisk storage, etc.

You can buy .Mac/Mobileme subscriptions off if eBay cheaper. I think
I paid in the neighborhood of $55-$65 the last 2 years. Basically
you are just buying a box with an activation code inside, and you go
online and punch in the activation code and you get the full year of
membership.

Steve

David Fritzinger

In article <>,
Steve de Mena <> wrote:

> Carl wrote:
> > David Moyer wrote:
> >> "Carl" <> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I believe what you're referring to is its usability with Microsoft
> >>> EXCHANGE, not synchronization with Outlook. I don't use MS
> >>> Exchange. My business needs are not that sophisticated. The BB
> >>> syncs directly with MS Outlook without Exchange.
> >> nah, there are two levels of syncing for PC users... "exchange level"
> >> which is more for enterprise, then "mobileme" which is for smaller
> >> firms, families, students, etc. if your still trying to use a PC,
> >> mobileme is what is going to work with outlook without having an
> >> exchange server.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > I believe I've gathered some more information on mobileme and
> > synchronization with MS Outlook, my personal requirement for switching from
> > a BB to an iPhone.
> >
> > While the info is still murky, from what I gathered mobileme will come at a
> > cost of $100 for a single-user license. I also believe that this only
> > licenses the product for your use for one year. If I understood that right,
> > you'll be needing to pay again after that year. Therefore, while the new
> > version of the phone looks cheap, you'll be paying about $70/month for
> > phone
> > and unlimited data service, and another $9/month for mobileme, not that
> > inexpensive. It seems it also only syncs your calendar and phone book
> > (besides your photos), but not your notes or task list.
>
> Do you use Apple Macs? If so, than mobile me adds more value. Web
> sites, iDisk storage, etc.

IIRC, Mobileme is going to work for PCs as well. I believe Jobs
mentioned that push email would work through Outlook, and that Windows
machines could use web-based calendars and address books.
[snip]

--
Dave Fritzinger
Honolulu, HI

Todd Allcock

At 12 Jun 2008 09:22:23 -0400 Carl wrote:

> Yes, thanks to all of you who have pointed me to Mobileme, which I was
not
> aware of until one helpful poster (before you I mean) posted it last night.

>
> And that program makes the iPhone more appealing to me. However, and I
don't
> mean to be trying to throw roadblocks of rationalizations at you all, I
> believe neither MS Exchange nor Mobileme sychronize the task list or Notes,

> but only the calendar and address book. I did mention all four functions
in
> my original post. I use them all. Any information or workarounds on
these
> two functions?


Check out , a SyncML client. You install an Outlook plug-in
on your PC, and the Funambol client on your smartphone (or dumbphone) then
sync with your choice of free SyncML servers, or install the server
software on your own PC if the idea of storing your data on someone else's
server scares you.

Funambol supports Contacts, Calendar, Tasks and Notes.

Dean

Ever try one of those "comfort height" toilets?

You GOTTA get one. Makes dropping an iPhone a pleasure.

Sign Me,

"Still trying to figure out how an iPhone will help me make phone calls. Not
trying to run a business from the palm of my hand, just want to make phone
calls. My Verizon phone works fine."

Dean


"David Moyer" <> wrote in message
news:.com...
>a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
>
> Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>
> "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
> than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
> device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
> How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
> ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
> before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
> computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
> used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
> on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>
> much more here....
>
>
>
>

News

Dean wrote:

> Ever try one of those "comfort height" toilets?
>
> You GOTTA get one. Makes dropping an iPhone a pleasure.
>


Make sure it isn't a "low flow". Those you gotta flush twice.