Re: Activating an iPhone - Made SIMPLE by Apple.

Bill Gates

"Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> > but the root is too tight of tolerance. learn about plastics sometime.
> > heat expansion wasn't correctly factored, but it's not the PROBLEM.
>
> So it's my problem ? Anyway you look at it, It's apple problem to fix it.
> I never knew I would need to learn about plastics to own a mac. Silly me.

NO, of course not, but did it ever affect performance? nope! It's purely
cosmetic and Apple fixes it for free.

> > but was it an apple store, nope!
> Apple Which fixed it said it was due to battery swell.
> You figure it out.

Okay, that seems like a reasonable answer. Apple fixed it, so why the
complaining?

> > and that was a tough issue to fix, give apple a break on that one. they
> > fixed everyone single one that had issue for free.
>
> Give em a break on that one ? Are you kidding ? So they fix it by a fan
> speed fix. Nice. What happens down the line when this poor fan is wore out
> from being turned up to cool down the chip ? Repair time. They wanted to
> keep this so bad they even offered me a half price apple care plan. Which I
> refused.

It took awhile to find the cause, I think you have the understanding
that millions of users under 1000's of conditions all have the same
answer? Learn about electronics repair, it's 1000's of times more
complex than a "car" with a squeaky sound.

Ah, the fan wouldn't ware out for 5-10 years, so not sure why you
brought that up. Sounds AGAIN like you don't know electronics.

Yes, Apple should have offered a full 2 year extra AppleCare plan, they
failed there.

> >> What about my fan not being able to keep everything cool ? Oh, apple just
> >> speeds up the fan rpm and sooner then normal. There goes 10% of your
> >> battery.
> >
> > evidence? the fan takes up little energy, maybe 2%, but not 10% of the
> > battery.
> >
> Again, Google it. People reported a 10% loss in battery life due to the fan
> being turned on at startup and the lowering of the temp setting to come on
> sooner then normal to keep this oven cool.

Doubtful.

> Place it on your lap and see how long it stays there before the heat frys
> your legs. I should have thought something was up when the display was
> sitting on a targus usb fan cooler.
> >> >> Wi-Fi quit working. 2 times for this problem.
> >> >
> >> > doubtful.
> >> > Read the fixes on the apple site.
>
> If it's doubtful, then why point to the "Fixes on the apple site" ?
> Fix=problems.

The fix ended up being "software" which is typical for complex systems.
The general public (you) doesn't have have the concept that most EVERY
HARDWARE issue can be fixed with asoftware update.

> > no, i just have about 40 clients with these machines, and you are the
> > only one that has had ALL 4 of the issues and (then some made up ones)
>
> I must have just been lucky huh.

No, I followed the story very well, that's why I've caught you in a lie.
I did have a person with the dark palm rests, he emailed me, and apple
fixed it within 4 days, for free.

> >> > incorrect. if they tried to fix it 3 times and failed, you get a new
> >> > machine.
>
> Again, you know all about this case huh. I'm done with this big POS Apple
> product.

I know about all cases, and your story quickly calculated to false.

> >> Wrong. Only if it's the same part "Under the lemon law"
> >
> > oh my god, you are COMPLETELY wrong on this, it's 3 ISSUE of ANY TYPE
> > that Apple has taken in the machine and hasn't been able to resolve, you
> > get a new machine, that's a POLICY. It has NOTHING to do with the same
> > PART having 3 issues?
>
> The letter I got with the laptop said it was a new problem everytime.
> It was never the same problem as before. But I had them when the shutdowns
> kept on. The final straw was the MB Replacement.

Yes, but if you would have called Customer Relations, they know 3
strikes by Apple and the machine is replaced or amount refunded. Which
you got since you didn't understand the issues.

> > Did you even deal with Apple on this? or did you use your local Windows
>
> My local apple store. Which is a apple service center.

But not an Apple Store, thanks for confirming that.

> And I also forgot to tell about the DVD Drive that ate the factory disc's.
> Large rings around the media. Two sets of those in less then a month.

Untrue. Unless of course you are abusive to your equipment. The sign
that you had dirty palm rests pretty much says you are a PIG, and not
really up to Apple standards to have a modern piece of electronic
equipment. (sorry to be so blunt on that, but the dirty palm rest, told
everyone that you aren't a clean person)

> Caused by a bad dvd drive. Google has much info on this as well.

Not.

> > Apple would have responded to your complain and you would have lost.
> > There are no valid class action suits on this subject at this time since
> > Apple has resolved all customer issues for FREE.
>
> Only after they said no at first and people started the class action. Once
> apple saw that they had no choice they fixed the problems.

Apple doesn't need to respond to class action unless there is a problem
on their side, in your case it was user abuse.

> Were they fixed ? Don't know or care. I got a refund and that's that.

Yes, and in your filthy lifestyle that was best for Apple. They don't
need slobs in their customer base.

> >> No need. I got the refund and I'm done.
> >
> > yes, or a Refund from Apple... that can happen as well, but I don't
> > remember you saying that before. You said court, and that's a total lie.
>
> Apple refused to help me. It's only when The local apple store sent it in
> and came back with the same problem is when I filled out the paper work.

Incorrect. Apple helped you, but you didn't want to be helped. It's VERY
clear from your comments here.

> It was sent in for the shutdowns, Upon opening it up in the store, less then
> 30 mins later it had done it again. That was when I had enough.
> The repair said mainboard replacement.

But Apple mistakenly didn't understand that WASN'T the problem, it was a
software issue, fixed after you had issues. Sorry.

> >> I expected this from the apple people.
> >
> > You'll learn.
> >
> You are correct. I did learn something. Apple = Crap! : )

Nope, it just means you aren't civilized enough to open a modern
computing device. Someday, with some training you might join the Apple
fold, but until then, you are human trash, it's pretty clear by your
error filled postings.

-

Kevin Weaver

Your so full of shit.
It is and still is a POS. Case closed. I got the refund.

Never another apple product again.

"Bill Gates" <im@IEdiedtoday.com> wrote in message
news:im-C1AB03.20102028062007@mpls-nnrp-02.inet.qwest.net...
> "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> > but the root is too tight of tolerance. learn about plastics sometime.
>> > heat expansion wasn't correctly factored, but it's not the PROBLEM.
>>
>> So it's my problem ? Anyway you look at it, It's apple problem to fix it.
>> I never knew I would need to learn about plastics to own a mac. Silly me.
>
> NO, of course not, but did it ever affect performance? nope! It's purely
> cosmetic and Apple fixes it for free.
>
>> > but was it an apple store, nope!
>> Apple Which fixed it said it was due to battery swell.
>> You figure it out.
>
> Okay, that seems like a reasonable answer. Apple fixed it, so why the
> complaining?
>
>> > and that was a tough issue to fix, give apple a break on that one. they
>> > fixed everyone single one that had issue for free.
>>
>> Give em a break on that one ? Are you kidding ? So they fix it by a fan
>> speed fix. Nice. What happens down the line when this poor fan is wore
>> out
>> from being turned up to cool down the chip ? Repair time. They wanted to
>> keep this so bad they even offered me a half price apple care plan. Which
>> I
>> refused.
>
> It took awhile to find the cause, I think you have the understanding
> that millions of users under 1000's of conditions all have the same
> answer? Learn about electronics repair, it's 1000's of times more
> complex than a "car" with a squeaky sound.
>
> Ah, the fan wouldn't ware out for 5-10 years, so not sure why you
> brought that up. Sounds AGAIN like you don't know electronics.
>
> Yes, Apple should have offered a full 2 year extra AppleCare plan, they
> failed there.
>
>> >> What about my fan not being able to keep everything cool ? Oh, apple
>> >> just
>> >> speeds up the fan rpm and sooner then normal. There goes 10% of your
>> >> battery.
>> >
>> > evidence? the fan takes up little energy, maybe 2%, but not 10% of the
>> > battery.
>> >
>> Again, Google it. People reported a 10% loss in battery life due to the
>> fan
>> being turned on at startup and the lowering of the temp setting to come
>> on
>> sooner then normal to keep this oven cool.
>
> Doubtful.
>
>> Place it on your lap and see how long it stays there before the heat frys
>> your legs. I should have thought something was up when the display was
>> sitting on a targus usb fan cooler.
>> >> >> Wi-Fi quit working. 2 times for this problem.
>> >> >
>> >> > doubtful.
>> >> > Read the fixes on the apple site.
>>
>> If it's doubtful, then why point to the "Fixes on the apple site" ?
>> Fix=problems.
>
> The fix ended up being "software" which is typical for complex systems.
> The general public (you) doesn't have have the concept that most EVERY
> HARDWARE issue can be fixed with asoftware update.
>
>> > no, i just have about 40 clients with these machines, and you are the
>> > only one that has had ALL 4 of the issues and (then some made up ones)
>>
>> I must have just been lucky huh.
>
> No, I followed the story very well, that's why I've caught you in a lie.
> I did have a person with the dark palm rests, he emailed me, and apple
> fixed it within 4 days, for free.
>
>> >> > incorrect. if they tried to fix it 3 times and failed, you get a new
>> >> > machine.
>>
>> Again, you know all about this case huh. I'm done with this big POS Apple
>> product.
>
> I know about all cases, and your story quickly calculated to false.
>
>> >> Wrong. Only if it's the same part "Under the lemon law"
>> >
>> > oh my god, you are COMPLETELY wrong on this, it's 3 ISSUE of ANY TYPE
>> > that Apple has taken in the machine and hasn't been able to resolve,
>> > you
>> > get a new machine, that's a POLICY. It has NOTHING to do with the same
>> > PART having 3 issues?
>>
>> The letter I got with the laptop said it was a new problem everytime.
>> It was never the same problem as before. But I had them when the
>> shutdowns
>> kept on. The final straw was the MB Replacement.
>
> Yes, but if you would have called Customer Relations, they know 3
> strikes by Apple and the machine is replaced or amount refunded. Which
> you got since you didn't understand the issues.
>
>> > Did you even deal with Apple on this? or did you use your local Windows
>>
>> My local apple store. Which is a apple service center.
>
> But not an Apple Store, thanks for confirming that.
>
>> And I also forgot to tell about the DVD Drive that ate the factory
>> disc's.
>> Large rings around the media. Two sets of those in less then a month.
>
> Untrue. Unless of course you are abusive to your equipment. The sign
> that you had dirty palm rests pretty much says you are a PIG, and not
> really up to Apple standards to have a modern piece of electronic
> equipment. (sorry to be so blunt on that, but the dirty palm rest, told
> everyone that you aren't a clean person)
>
>> Caused by a bad dvd drive. Google has much info on this as well.
>
> Not.
>
>> > Apple would have responded to your complain and you would have lost.
>> > There are no valid class action suits on this subject at this time
>> > since
>> > Apple has resolved all customer issues for FREE.
>>
>> Only after they said no at first and people started the class action.
>> Once
>> apple saw that they had no choice they fixed the problems.
>
> Apple doesn't need to respond to class action unless there is a problem
> on their side, in your case it was user abuse.
>
>> Were they fixed ? Don't know or care. I got a refund and that's that.
>
> Yes, and in your filthy lifestyle that was best for Apple. They don't
> need slobs in their customer base.
>
>> >> No need. I got the refund and I'm done.
>> >
>> > yes, or a Refund from Apple... that can happen as well, but I don't
>> > remember you saying that before. You said court, and that's a total
>> > lie.
>>
>> Apple refused to help me. It's only when The local apple store sent it in
>> and came back with the same problem is when I filled out the paper work.
>
> Incorrect. Apple helped you, but you didn't want to be helped. It's VERY
> clear from your comments here.
>
>> It was sent in for the shutdowns, Upon opening it up in the store, less
>> then
>> 30 mins later it had done it again. That was when I had enough.
>> The repair said mainboard replacement.
>
> But Apple mistakenly didn't understand that WASN'T the problem, it was a
> software issue, fixed after you had issues. Sorry.
>
>> >> I expected this from the apple people.
>> >
>> > You'll learn.
>> >
>> You are correct. I did learn something. Apple = Crap! : )
>
> Nope, it just means you aren't civilized enough to open a modern
> computing device. Someday, with some training you might join the Apple
> fold, but until then, you are human trash, it's pretty clear by your
> error filled postings.
>
> -

Bill Gates

"Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Your so full of shit.
> It is and still is a POS. Case closed. I got the refund.
>
> Never another apple product again.

well, you mean, just not a 100% new model using a 100% new chip.

the 2nd gen MacBooks were fine, you just got on the early train and got
a full refund for your efforts.

You'll get another mac, but learn that upon the RARE event that apple
completely redesigns something, don't buy the first model.

sorry you had trouble, but it seems you were the only one that had THAT
many problems, (you might want to call Guinness Book of World Records on
this one!) but even so, it still makes you a liar in the eyes of the
public.

Kevin Weaver

Another apple product ? You should be a comic..

"Bill Gates" <im@IEdiedtoday.com> wrote in message
news:im-C3357F.23524828062007@mpls-nnrp-02.inet.qwest.net...
> "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> Your so full of shit.
>> It is and still is a POS. Case closed. I got the refund.
>>
>> Never another apple product again.
>
> well, you mean, just not a 100% new model using a 100% new chip.
>
> the 2nd gen MacBooks were fine, you just got on the early train and got
> a full refund for your efforts.
>
> You'll get another mac, but learn that upon the RARE event that apple
> completely redesigns something, don't buy the first model.
>
> sorry you had trouble, but it seems you were the only one that had THAT
> many problems, (you might want to call Guinness Book of World Records on
> this one!) but even so, it still makes you a liar in the eyes of the
> public.