tin 1.6.2 on 4.0 release

dave

I just installed 4.0 release from scratch on a new disk.
Then I installed a number of packages, including tin 1.6.2.
The 4.0 tin works differently from the tin on 3.9 and seems
to have a few bugs.

Has the 4.0 tin software for OpenBSD 4.0 been upgraded from
that for OpenBSD 3.9?

Thanks,
Dave Feustel

Joachim Schipper

dave <daf@a64.localhost.comcast.net> wrote:
> I just installed 4.0 release from scratch on a new disk.
> Then I installed a number of packages, including tin 1.6.2.
> The 4.0 tin works differently from the tin on 3.9 and seems
> to have a few bugs.
>
> Has the 4.0 tin software for OpenBSD 4.0 been upgraded from
> that for OpenBSD 3.9?

cvs log and my own memory seem to indicate this is not really the case.
news/tin has been updated (to 1.8.2!) for 4.1, though, which should fix
most problems. (-current is on 1.8.3, but that's a very minor upgrade.)

What are the bugs you are seeing with 1.6.2?

Joachim

dave

Joachim Schipper <jdNoOtSPAMschipper@math.uu.nl> wrote:
> dave <daf@a64.localhost.comcast.net> wrote:
>> I just installed 4.0 release from scratch on a new disk.
>> Then I installed a number of packages, including tin 1.6.2.
>> The 4.0 tin works differently from the tin on 3.9 and seems
>> to have a few bugs.
>>
>> Has the 4.0 tin software for OpenBSD 4.0 been upgraded from
>> that for OpenBSD 3.9?
>
> cvs log and my own memory seem to indicate this is not really the case.
> news/tin has been updated (to 1.8.2!) for 4.1, though, which should fix
> most problems. (-current is on 1.8.3, but that's a very minor upgrade.)
>
> What are the bugs you are seeing with 1.6.2?
>
> Joachim

Not so much bugs as just working differently without any announcement.
so I had to just figure out by experiment what was going on
After reinstalling tin I could not initially subscribe to any groups
and when tin exited there was no .newsrc file. This turned out to
be related to a message I kept getting that tin could not enter
/home/daf/home, at which point I was offered the choice of 'use
..newsrc (default)' or quitting tin. I finally created /home/daf/home
just to see what would happen, and tin wrote a complete .newsrc
file to that directory. But not before I did a y at top level which
finally loaded the newsgroup list and allowed me to subscribe to
groups. Things are now working, but the .newsrc file used to be in
/home/daf and is now in /home/daf/home. /home/News is empty.

Joachim Schipper

dave <daf@a64.localhost.comcast.net> wrote:
> Joachim Schipper <jdNoOtSPAMschipper@math.uu.nl> wrote:
>> dave <daf@a64.localhost.comcast.net> wrote:
>>> I just installed 4.0 release from scratch on a new disk.
>>> Then I installed a number of packages, including tin 1.6.2.
>>> The 4.0 tin works differently from the tin on 3.9 and seems
>>> to have a few bugs.
>>>
>>> Has the 4.0 tin software for OpenBSD 4.0 been upgraded from
>>> that for OpenBSD 3.9?
>>
>> cvs log and my own memory seem to indicate this is not really the case.
>> news/tin has been updated (to 1.8.2!) for 4.1, though, which should fix
>> most problems. (-current is on 1.8.3, but that's a very minor upgrade.)
>>
>> What are the bugs you are seeing with 1.6.2?
>
> Not so much bugs as just working differently without any announcement.
> so I had to just figure out by experiment what was going on
> After reinstalling tin I could not initially subscribe to any groups
> and when tin exited there was no .newsrc file. This turned out to
> be related to a message I kept getting that tin could not enter
> /home/daf/home, at which point I was offered the choice of 'use
> .newsrc (default)' or quitting tin. I finally created /home/daf/home
> just to see what would happen, and tin wrote a complete .newsrc
> file to that directory. But not before I did a y at top level which
> finally loaded the newsgroup list and allowed me to subscribe to
> groups. Things are now working, but the .newsrc file used to be in
> /home/daf and is now in /home/daf/home. /home/News is empty.

Huh? Whatever could have possessed tin to go rummaging in
/home/daf/home? That /home/News is empty is not a problem - so is mine.

Could you post the output of 'env' and your .tinrc? And the result of
'grep daf /etc/password'?

Joachim

dave

Joachim Schipper <jdNoOtSPAMschipper@math.uu.nl> wrote:
> dave <daf@a64.localhost.comcast.net> wrote:
>> Joachim Schipper <jdNoOtSPAMschipper@math.uu.nl> wrote:
>>> dave <daf@a64.localhost.comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> I just installed 4.0 release from scratch on a new disk.
>>>> Then I installed a number of packages, including tin 1.6.2.
>>>> The 4.0 tin works differently from the tin on 3.9 and seems
>>>> to have a few bugs.
>>>>
>>>> Has the 4.0 tin software for OpenBSD 4.0 been upgraded from
>>>> that for OpenBSD 3.9?
>>>
>>> cvs log and my own memory seem to indicate this is not really the case.
>>> news/tin has been updated (to 1.8.2!) for 4.1, though, which should fix
>>> most problems. (-current is on 1.8.3, but that's a very minor upgrade.)
>>>
>>> What are the bugs you are seeing with 1.6.2?
>>
>> Not so much bugs as just working differently without any announcement.
>> so I had to just figure out by experiment what was going on
>> After reinstalling tin I could not initially subscribe to any groups
>> and when tin exited there was no .newsrc file. This turned out to
>> be related to a message I kept getting that tin could not enter
>> /home/daf/home, at which point I was offered the choice of 'use
>> .newsrc (default)' or quitting tin. I finally created /home/daf/home
>> just to see what would happen, and tin wrote a complete .newsrc
>> file to that directory. But not before I did a y at top level which
>> finally loaded the newsgroup list and allowed me to subscribe to
>> groups. Things are now working, but the .newsrc file used to be in
>> /home/daf and is now in /home/daf/home. /home/News is empty.
>
> Huh? Whatever could have possessed tin to go rummaging in
> /home/daf/home?

Especially in view of the fact that it didn't exist.

$ls -la ~/home
total 5192
drwx------ 2 daf daf 512 Apr 1 10:18 .
drwx------ 18 daf daf 1536 Apr 1 12:37 ..
-rw------- 1 daf daf 2630461 Apr 1 10:18 .newsrc
> That /home/News is empty is not a problem - so is mine.
>
> Could you post the output of 'env'

_=/usr/bin/env
SESSION_MANAGER=local/a64.localhost.comcast.net:/tmp/.ICE-unix/14295
PATH=/home/daf/bin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin::.
TMP=/home/daf/Tmp
PS1=$PWD}
NNTPSERVER=news.comcast.net
SHELL=/bin/ksh
USER=daf
GTK_RC_FILES=/etc/gtk/gtkrc:/home/daf/.gtkrc:/home/daf/.kde/share/config/gtkrc
TMPDIR=/home/daf/Tmp
KDE_FULL_SESSION=true
DISPLAY=:0
HOME=/home/daf
KONSOLE_DCOP_SESSION=DCOPRef(konsole-7946,session-2)
GTK2_RC_FILES=/etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:/home/daf/.gtkrc-2.0:/home/daf/.kde/share/config/gtkrc-2.0
TERM=xterm
NNTP_AUTH_FDS=3.4.5
XAUTHORITY=/home/daf/.Xauthority
COLORTERM=
XCURSOR_THEME=default
KDE_MULTIHEAD=false
KONSOLE_DCOP=DCOPRef(konsole-7946,konsole)
WINDOWID=23068677
GS_LIB=/home/daf/.fonts
ENV=/home/daf/.kshrc
LOGNAME=daf

and your .tinrc?

$ls -la ~/.tin
total 84
drwx------ 5 daf daf 512 Apr 1 10:18 .
drwx------ 18 daf daf 1536 Apr 1 12:37 ..
-rw------- 1 daf daf 468 Apr 1 10:18 .inputhistory
drwx------ 2 daf daf 512 Mar 30 08:57 .mail
drwx------ 2 daf daf 512 Mar 30 08:57 .save
-rw------- 1 daf daf 2887 Mar 30 08:57 attributes
-rw------- 1 daf daf 1984 Apr 1 09:44 filter
drwx------ 2 daf daf 512 Apr 1 12:30 news.comcast.net
-rw------- 1 daf daf 393 Mar 30 13:48 newsrctable
-rw------- 1 daf daf 1235 Apr 1 09:32 posted
-rw------- 1 daf daf 18457 Apr 1 10:18 tinrc

$cat tinrc
# tin configuration file V1.3.6
# This file was automatically saved by tin 1.6.2 20030910 ("Pabbay")
#
# Do not edit while tin is running, since all your changes to this file
# will be overwritten when you leave tin.
#
################################################## ##########################

# Directory where articles/threads are saved
default_savedir=/home/daf/News

# If ON articles/threads with Archive-name: in mail header will
# be automatically saved with the Archive-name & part/patch no.
auto_save=OFF

# If ON mark articles that are saved as read
mark_saved_read=ON

# Perform post processing (saving binary attachments) from saved articles.
# 0=(no) 1=(yes) 2=(extract shell archives (shar) only)
post_process_type=0

# If set, post processed files will be opened in a viewer
post_process_view=ON

# If ON only save/print/pipe/mail unread articles (tagged articles excepted)
process_only_unread=OFF

# If ON show empty Followup-To header when editing an article
prompt_followupto=OFF

# What should we ask confirmation for.
confirm_choice=commands & quit

# If ON the 'Mark article read' function marks only the current article.
mark_ignore_tags=OFF

# If ON automatically reconnect to NNTP server if the connection is broken
auto_reconnect=ON

# If ON use -> otherwise highlighted bar for selection
draw_arrow=OFF

# If ON use inverse video for page headers at different levels
inverse_okay=ON

# If ON put cursor at first unread art in group otherwise last art
pos_first_unread=ON

# If ON show only new/unread articles otherwise show all.
show_only_unread=ON

# If ON show only subscribed to groups that contain unread articles.
show_only_unread_groups=OFF

# 0=(Only kill unread articles)
# 1=(Kill all articles and show in threads marked with K)
# 2=(Kill all articles and never show them).
kill_level=0

# If ON the TAB command will go to next unread article at article viewer level
tab_goto_next_unread=ON

# If ON the SPACE command will go to next unread article at article viewer
# level when the end of the article is reached (rn-style pager)
space_goto_next_unread=OFF

# If ON the PGDN or DOWN command will go to next unread article when
# pressed at end of message
pgdn_goto_next=ON

# Number of lines that cursor-up/down will scroll in article pager
# eg, 1+ = line-by-line, 0 = page-by-page (traditional behavior),
# -1 = the top/bottom line is carried over onto the next page,
# -2 = half-page scrolling
scroll_lines=1

# If ON ask user if read groups should all be marked read
catchup_read_groups=OFF

# If ON catchup group/thread when leaving with the left arrow key.
group_catchup_on_exit=ON
thread_catchup_on_exit=ON

# Thread articles on 0=(nothing) 1=(Subject) 2=(References) 3=(Both)
# 4=(Multipart Subject).
thread_articles=3

# If ON show group description text after newsgroup name at
# group selection level
show_description=ON

# Part of from field to display 0) none 1) address 2) full name 3) both
show_author=2

# Which news headers you wish to see. If you want to see _all_ the headers,
# place an '*' as this value. This is the only way a wildcard can be used.
# If you enter 'X-' as the value, you will see all headers beginning with
# 'X-' (like X-Alan or X-Pape). You can list more than one by delimiting with
# spaces. Not defining anything turns off this option.
news_headers_to_display=Newsgroups Followup-To Summary Keywords X-Comment-To

# Same as 'news_headers_to_display' except it denotes the opposite.
# An example of using both options might be if you thought X- headers were
# A Good Thing(tm), but thought Alan and Pape were miscreants...well then you
# would do something like this:
# news_headers_to_display=X-
# news_headers_to_not_display=X-Alan X-Pape
# Not defining anything turns off this option.
news_headers_to_not_display=

# If ON use print current subject or newsgroup description in the last line
info_in_last_line=OFF

# Sort articles by 0=(nothing) 1=(Subject descend) 2=(Subject ascend)
# 3=(From descend) 4=(From ascend) 5=(Date descend) 6=(Date ascend)
# 7=(Score descend) 8=(Score ascend) 9=(Lines descend) 10=(Lines ascend).
sort_article_type=6

# Sort thread by 0=(nothing) 1=(Score descend) 2=(Score ascend)
sort_threads_type=1

# (-m) directory where articles/threads are saved in mailbox format
default_maildir=/home/daf/Mail

# Format of the mailbox.
mailbox_format=MBOXO

# If ON print all of article header otherwise just the important lines
print_header=OFF

# Print program with parameters used to print articles/threads
default_printer=/usr/bin/lpr

# If ON articles/threads will be saved in batch mode when save -S
# or mail (-M/-N) is specified on the command line
batch_save=ON

# If ON editor will be started with cursor offset into the file
# otherwise the cursor will be positioned at the first line
start_editor_offset=ON

# Format of editor line including parameters
# %E Editor %F Filename %N Linenumber
default_editor_format=%E +%N %F

# Format of mailer line including parameters
# %M Mailer %S Subject %T To %F Filename %U User (AmigaDOS)
# ie. to use elm as your mailer: elm -s "%S" "%T" < %F
# ie. elm interactive : elm -i %F -s "%S" "%T"
default_mailer_format=%M -oi -t < %F

# Interactive mailreader: if ON mailreader will be invoked earlier for
# reply so you can use more of its features (eg. MIME, pgp, ...)
# this option has to suit default_mailer_format
use_mailreader_i=OFF

# What informations should be displayed in article/thread listing
# 0 = nothing, 1 = lines, 2 = score, 3 = lines & score
show_info=1

# Thread score 0=(Max) 1=(Sum) 2=(Average)
thread_score=0

# If ON remove ~/.article after posting.
unlink_article=ON

# If ON keep all failed postings in ~/dead.articles
keep_dead_articles=ON

# Filename where to keep all postings (default posted)
# If no filename is set then postings will not be saved
posted_articles_file=posted

# If ON add posted articles which start a new thread to filter for
# highlighting follow-ups
add_posted_to_filter=ON

# Signature path (random sigs)/file to be used when posting/replying
# default_sigfile=file appends file as signature
# default_sigfile=!command executes external command to generate a signature
# default_sigfile=--none don't append a signature
default_sigfile=/home/daf/.Sig

# If ON prepend the signature with dashes '\n-- \n'
sigdashes=ON

# If ON add signature to reposted articles
signature_repost=ON

# A comma-delimited list of address-parts you want to be warned
# about when trying to reply by email.
spamtrap_warning_addresses=

# The program used to open URL's. The actual URL will be appended
url_handler=lynx

# If ON include advertising User-Agent: header
advertising=ON

# Time interval in seconds between rereading the active file (0=never)
reread_active_file_secs=1200

# Characters used in quoting to followups and replies.
# '_' is replaced by ' ', %s, %S are replaced by author's initials.
quote_chars=>_

# How quoting should be handled when following up or replying.
# 0 = Nothing special
# 1 = Compress quotes
# 2 = Quote signatures
# 3 = Compress quotes, quote signatures
# 4 = Quote empty lines
# 5 = Compress quotes, quote empty lines
# 6 = Quote signatures, quote empty lines
# 7 = Compress quotes, quote signatures, quote empty lines
quote_style=5

# A regular expression that tin will use to decide which lines are
# quoted when viewing articles. Quoted lines are shown in col_quote.
# If you leave this blank, tin will use a built in default.
quote_regex=^\s{0,3}(?:[\]{}>|]|\w{1,3}[>|])(?!-)

# A regular expression that tin will use to decide which lines are
# quoted twice. Twice quoted lines are shown in col_quote2.
# If you leave this blank, tin will use a built in default.
quote_regex2=^\s{0,3}(??:[\]{}>|]|\w{1,3}[>|])\s*){2}(?!-[})>])

# A regular expression that tin will use to decide which lines are
# quoted >=3 times. >=3 times quoted lines are shown in col_quote3.
# If you leave this blank, tin will use a built in default.
quote_regex3=^\s{0,3}(??:[\]{}>|]|\w{1,3}[>|])\s*){3}

# A regular expression that tin will use to decide which words
# bounded by '/' are to be shown in col_markslashes.
# If you leave this blank, tin will use a built in default.
slashes_regex=(?:^|(?<=\s))/(?(?=[^-*/_\s][^/\s])[^-*/_\s][^/]*[^-*/_\s]|[^/\s])/(??=[,.!?;]?\s)|$)

# A regular expression that tin will use to decide which words
# bounded by '*' are to be shown in col_markstars.
# If you leave this blank, tin will use a built in default.
stars_regex=(?:^|(?<=\s))\*(?(?=[^-*/_\s][^*\s])[^-*/_\s][^*]*[^-*/_\s]|[^*\s])\*(??=[,.!?;]?\s)|$)

# A regular expression that tin will use to decide which words
# bounded by '-' are to be shown in col_markstroke.
# If you leave this blank, tin will use a built in default.
strokes_regex=(?:^|(?<=\s))-(?(?=[^-*/_\s][^-\s])[^-*/_\s][^-]*[^-*/_\s]|[^-\s])-(??=[,.!?;]?\s)|$)

# A regular expression that tin will use to decide which words
# bounded by '_' are to be shown in col_markdash.
# If you leave this blank, tin will use a built in default.
underscores_regex=(?:^|(?<=\s))_(?(?=[^-*/_\s][^_\s])[^-*/_\s][^_]*[^-*/_\s]|[^_\s])_(??=[,.!?;]?\s)|$)

# A regular expression that tin will use to find Subject prefixes
# which will be removed before showing the header.
strip_re_regex=(?:R[eE](?:\^\d+|\[\d\])?|A[wW]|Odp|Sv):\s

# A regular expression that tin will use to find Subject suffixes
# which will be removed when replying or posting followup.
strip_was_regex=.\((?:[Ww]a[rs]|[Bb]y[l³]o):.*\)\s*$

# If OFF don't show signatures when displaying articles
show_signatures=ON

# If ON decode German style TeX umlaut codes to ISO and
# show "a as Umlaut-a, etc.
tex2iso_conv=OFF

# Handling of uuencoded data in the pager
# 0 = display raw uuencoded data
# 1 = uuencoded data will be condensed to a single tag line showing
# size and filename, similar to how MIME attachments are displayed
# 2 = as for 1, but any line that looks like uuencoded data will be folded
# into a tag line.
hide_uue=0

# Format of quote line when mailing/posting/following-up an article
# %A Address %D Date %F Addr+Name %G Groupname %M Message-ID
# %N Full Name %C First Name %I Initials
news_quote_format=%F wrote:
mail_quote_format=In article %M you wrote:
xpost_quote_format=In %G %F wrote:

# If ON automatically put your name in the Cc: field when mailing an article
auto_cc=OFF

# If ON automatically put your name in the Bcc: field when mailing an article
auto_bcc=OFF

# Character used to show that an art was deleted (default 'D')
# _ is turned into ' '
art_marked_deleted=D

# Character used to show that an art is in a range (default '#')
# _ is turned into ' '
art_marked_inrange=#

# Character used to show that an art will return (default '-')
# _ is turned into ' '
art_marked_return=-

# Character used to show that an art was auto-selected (default '*')
# _ is turned into ' '
art_marked_selected=*

# Character used to show that an art is recent (default 'o')
# _ is turned into ' '
art_marked_recent=o

# Character used to show that an art is unread (default '+')
# _ is turned into ' '
art_marked_unread=+

# Character used to show that an art was read (default ' ')
# _ is turned into ' '
art_marked_read=_

# Character used to show that an art was killed (default 'K')
# kill_level must be set accordingly, _ is turned into ' '
art_marked_killed=K

# Character used to show that an art was selected before read (default ':')
# kill_level must be set accordingly, _ is turned into ' '
art_marked_read_selected=:

# If ON a screen redraw will always be done after certain external commands
force_screen_redraw=OFF

# If --internal use the built in mini inews for posting via NNTP
# otherwise use an external inews program
inews_prog=--internal

# If ON automatically list thread when entering it using right arrow key.
auto_list_thread=ON

# If ON wrap around threads on searching next unread article
wrap_on_next_unread=ON

# If ON enable mouse key support on xterm terminals
use_mouse=OFF

# If ON strip blanks from ends of lines for faster display on slow terminals.
strip_blanks=ON

# Maximum length of the names of newsgroups displayed
groupname_max_length=32

# If ON show a mini menu of useful commands at each level
# and posting etiquette after composing an article
beginner_level=ON

# Number of days a short term filter will be active
default_filter_days=28

# If ON, create local copies of NNTP overview files.
cache_overview_files=OFF

# Number of articles to get (0=no limit), if negative sets maximum number
# of already read articles to be read before first unread one
getart_limit=0

# Number of days in which article is considered recent, (0=OFF)
recent_time=2

# Score limit before an article is marked killed
score_limit_kill=-50

# Default score to kill articles
score_kill=-100

# Score limit before an article is marked hot
score_limit_select=50

# Default score to select articles
score_select=100

# If ON using ANSI-color
use_color=OFF

# For color-adjust use the following numbers
# 0-black 1-red 2-green 3-brown
# 4-blue 5-pink 6-cyan 7-white
# These are *only* for foreground:
# 8-gray 9-lightred 10-lightgreen 11-yellow
# 12-lightblue 13-lightpink 14-lightcyan 15-lightwhite
# A '-1' is interpreted as default (foreground normally is white, and
# background black)

# Standard foreground color
col_normal=7

# Standard-Background-Color
col_back=0

# Color of background for inverse text
col_invers_bg=4

# Color of foreground for inverse text
col_invers_fg=7

# Color of text-lines
col_text=7

# Color of mini help menu
col_minihelp=3

# Color of help pages
col_help=7

# Color of messages in last line
col_message=6

# Color of quote-lines
col_quote=2

# Color of twice quoted lines
col_quote2=3

# Color of >=3 times quoted lines
col_quote3=4

# Color of header-lines
col_head=2

# Color of actual news header fields
col_newsheaders=9

# Color of article subject
col_subject=6

# Color of response counter
col_response=2

# Color of sender (From
col_from=2

# Color of Help/Mail-Sign
col_title=4

# Color of signature
col_signature=4

# Enable word highlighting?
word_highlight=ON

# Wrap article lines at column
wrap_column=0

# Should the leading and ending stars and dashes also be displayed,
# even when they are highlighting marks?
# 0 - no 1 - yes, display mark 2 - print a space instead
word_h_display_marks=2

# Color of word highlighting. There are four possibilities
# in articles: *stars*, /slashes/, _underdashes_ and -strokes-.
col_markstar=11
col_markdash=13
col_markslash=14
col_markstroke=12

# Attribute of word highlighting on mono terminals.
# There are four possibilities in articles:
# *stars*, /slashes/, _underdashes_ and -strokes-.
# The possible values are:
# 0 - Normal, 1 - Underline, 2 - Best highlighting,
# 3 - Reverse video, 4 - Blinking, 5 - Half bright, 6 - Bold
mono_markstar=6
mono_markdash=2
mono_markslash=5
mono_markstroke=3

# User's mail address (and fullname), if not username@host (fullname)
mail_address=

# Charset used for MIME (Content-Type) header in postings.
mm_network_charset=US-ASCII

# If ON, use //TRANSLIT extension. This means that when a character cannot
# be represented in the in the target character set, it can be approximated
# through one or several similarly looking characters.
translit=OFF

# MIME encoding (8bit, base64, quoted-printable, 7bit) of the body
# for mails and posts, if necessary. QP is efficient for most European
# character sets (ISO-8859-X) with small fraction of non-US-ASCII chars,
# while Base64 is more efficient for most 8bit East Asian, Greek, and
# Russian charsets with a lot of 8bit characters.
post_mime_encoding=7bit
mail_mime_encoding=7bit

# If ON, 8bit characters in news headers are NOT encoded.
# default is OFF. Thus 8bit characters are encoded by default.
# 8bit chars in header are encoded regardless of the value of this
# parameter unless post_mime_encoding is 8bit as well.
post_8bit_header=OFF

# If ON, 8bit characters in mail headers are NOT encoded.
# default is OFF. Thus 8bit characters are encoded by default.
# 8bit chars in headers are encoded regardless of the value of this parameter
# unless mail_mime_encoding is 8bit as well. Note that RFC 2822
# prohibits 8bit characters in mail headers so that you are advised NOT to
# turn it ON unless you have some compelling reason.
mail_8bit_header=OFF

# If --internal automatically use the built in MIME viewer for non-text
# parts of articles.
# Otherwise specify an external viewer program (eg, metamail) or leave blank
# for no automatic viewing
metamail_prog=--internal

# If ON tin will ask before using metamail to display MIME messages
# this only happens if metamail_prog is set to something
ask_for_metamail=OFF

# If ON strip multipart/alternative messages automatically
alternative_handling=ON

# If ON strip unsubscribed groups from newsrc
strip_newsrc=OFF

# What to do with bogus groups in newsrc file
# 0=(Keep) 1=(Remove) 2=(Highlight with D on selection screen).
strip_bogus=2

# Wildcard matching 0=(wildmat) 1=(regex)
wildcard=0

# Defaults for quick (1 key) kill & auto-selection filters
# header=NUM 0,1=Subject: 2,3=From: 4=Message-ID: & full References: line
# 5=Message-ID: & last References: entry only
# 6=Message-ID: entry only 7=Lines:
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# case=ON/OFF ON=filter case sensitive OFF=ignore case
# expire=ON/OFF ON=limit to default_filter_days OFF=don't ever expire
default_filter_kill_header=0
default_filter_kill_global=ON
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default_filter_kill_expire=OFF
default_filter_select_header=0
default_filter_select_global=ON
default_filter_select_case=ON
default_filter_select_expire=OFF

# Default action/prompt strings
default_save_mode=a
default_author_search=
default_goto_group=
default_config_search=
default_group_search=x86
default_subject_search=
default_art_search=
default_repost_group=
default_mail_address=
default_move_group=0
default_pipe_command=
default_post_newsgroups=comp.lang.haskell
default_post_subject=Re: Any opinions on "Programming in Haskell" by Graham Hutton
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# Host & time info used for detecting new groups (don't touch)

And the result of
> 'grep daf /etc/password'?

/home/daf}grep daf /etc/passwd
daf:*:1000:1000:dave:/home/daf:/bin/ksh

>
> Joachim

Joachim Schipper

dave <daf@a64.localhost.comcast.net> wrote:
> Joachim Schipper <jdNoOtSPAMschipper@math.uu.nl> wrote:
>> dave <daf@a64.localhost.comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Joachim Schipper <jdNoOtSPAMschipper@math.uu.nl> wrote:
>>>> dave <daf@a64.localhost.comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> I just installed 4.0 release from scratch on a new disk.
>>>>> Then I installed a number of packages, including tin 1.6.2.
>>>>> The 4.0 tin works differently from the tin on 3.9 and seems
>>>>> to have a few bugs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Has the 4.0 tin software for OpenBSD 4.0 been upgraded from
>>>>> that for OpenBSD 3.9?
>>>>
>>>> cvs log and my own memory seem to indicate this is not really the case.
>>>> news/tin has been updated (to 1.8.2!) for 4.1, though, which should fix
>>>> most problems. (-current is on 1.8.3, but that's a very minor upgrade.)
>>>>
>>>> What are the bugs you are seeing with 1.6.2?
>>>
>>> Not so much bugs as just working differently without any announcement.
>>> so I had to just figure out by experiment what was going on
>>> After reinstalling tin I could not initially subscribe to any groups
>>> and when tin exited there was no .newsrc file. This turned out to
>>> be related to a message I kept getting that tin could not enter
>>> /home/daf/home, at which point I was offered the choice of 'use
>>> .newsrc (default)' or quitting tin. I finally created /home/daf/home
>>> just to see what would happen, and tin wrote a complete .newsrc
>>> file to that directory. But not before I did a y at top level which
>>> finally loaded the newsgroup list and allowed me to subscribe to
>>> groups. Things are now working, but the .newsrc file used to be in
>>> /home/daf and is now in /home/daf/home. /home/News is empty.
>>
>> Huh? Whatever could have possessed tin to go rummaging in
>> /home/daf/home?
>
> Especially in view of the fact that it didn't exist.
>
> $ls -la ~/home
> total 5192
> drwx------ 2 daf daf 512 Apr 1 10:18 .
> drwx------ 18 daf daf 1536 Apr 1 12:37 ..
> -rw------- 1 daf daf 2630461 Apr 1 10:18 .newsrc
>> That /home/News is empty is not a problem - so is mine.
>>
>> Could you post the output of 'env'
>
> _=/usr/bin/env
> SESSION_MANAGER=local/a64.localhost.comcast.net:/tmp/.ICE-unix/14295
> PATH=/home/daf/bin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin::.
> TMP=/home/daf/Tmp
> PS1=$PWD}
> NNTPSERVER=news.comcast.net
> SHELL=/bin/ksh
> USER=daf
> GTK_RC_FILES=/etc/gtk/gtkrc:/home/daf/.gtkrc:/home/daf/.kde/share/config/gtkrc
> TMPDIR=/home/daf/Tmp
> KDE_FULL_SESSION=true
> DISPLAY=:0
> HOME=/home/daf
> KONSOLE_DCOP_SESSION=DCOPRef(konsole-7946,session-2)
> GTK2_RC_FILES=/etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:/home/daf/.gtkrc-2.0:/home/daf/.kde/share/config/gtkrc-2.0
> TERM=xterm
> NNTP_AUTH_FDS=3.4.5
> XAUTHORITY=/home/daf/.Xauthority
> COLORTERM=
> XCURSOR_THEME=default
> KDE_MULTIHEAD=false
> KONSOLE_DCOP=DCOPRef(konsole-7946,konsole)
> WINDOWID=23068677
> GS_LIB=/home/daf/.fonts
> ENV=/home/daf/.kshrc
> LOGNAME=daf

Looks sensible. I don't know about NNTP_AUTH_FDS, but I can't imagine
that that would cause this problem.

> and your .tinrc?
>
<snip>

That's essentially the same as mine, which worked fine on 1.6.2/4.0.

> And the result of
>> 'grep daf /etc/password'?
>
> /home/daf}grep daf /etc/passwd
> daf:*:1000:1000:dave:/home/daf:/bin/ksh

Looks sensible, too.

I really wouldn't know what else could be the problem. Could you try the
following steps:

1. Remove or move all tin-related files (~/.article*, ~/.tin,
~/.newsrc)
2. pkg_delete tin, pkg_add tin
3. Check if the problem is still there
4. Remove all tin-related files
5. Try starting tin with a minimal environment, something like
env -i "PATH=$PATH" NNTPSERVER=$NNTPSERVER SHELL=$SHELL \
LOGNAME=$LOGNAME TERM=$TERM HOME=$HOME rtin
6. Check if the problem is still there; if so, remove all tin-related
files
7. pkg_delete tin, and compile the -current version of tin (1.8.3); you
can get this from cvs and/or
, and will want
to place it in /usr/ports/mystuff/news/tin
8. If everything compiles succesfully, check if the problem is still
there; if so, remove all tin-related files
9. pkg_delete the new tin and restore your old environment

Joachim