Re: E4300 / 680i overclocking

Ed Medlin

"Fishface" <invalid@ddress.ok?> wrote in message
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> Ed Medlin
>> Antec P180b case modded by Swiftech for water cooling.
>> I am not sure if I will start with air first or just set it up right
>> away for liquid cooling. I got the PC Power and Cooling
>> Silencer 750 PSU. My birthday present from wifey was a
>> Samsung 244t-BK 24" monitor...:-). That should help my
>> aging eyes just a little.....:-). I expect that everything that
>> hasn't got here will make it by Monday so that is when I
>> will get going.
>
> Wow, this one?
> www.swiftech.com/products/Qpower-P180.asp
> http://www.motherboards.org/reviews/...re/1692_1.html
>
> I didn't even know it existed! Perhaps you've seen the
> new P182 with grommets for *external* water cooling.
> I do like the self-contained unit, though.
>
> Some people had trouble with their SLI setup hitting the
> upper drive bay and had to remove the upper bay. This
> and installing the drives in the bottom are probably ideal
> from an airflow perspective, but I fear you may have
> trouble installing drives in the lower bay, because...
>
> Your power supply seems to be extra long (18cm). As
> mentioned in the installation instructions, you will likely
> need to move your pump and relocate the fan in the
> lower bay to the other side of the support pillar. They
> mention using right-angle power and SATA connectors
> for installing drives in the lower compartment in this
> case, but I find there is very little room even without the
> fan on that side of the support, although I don't have
> angled connectors. As you may recall from a previous
> thread, I mentioned possibly trying to install the drives
> backwards in the lower bay. In theory, the cables would
> then attach at the front near the filter grille. In the standard
> position, there is one inch of clearance between the drive
> and the grille. It appears that the drive cage could be
> installed upside down, but the ***** tab would be on the
> wrong side, which is not a serious problem. The problem
> is in connecting the cables. The carrier will not slide with
> them in place without cutting away a little metal. Again, the
> right angled connectors would be better suited. The other
> option, simply reversing the drives in the mount is a
> problem because the mounting holes on the HDs are not
> centrally located and reversing them results in their
> protrusion into the one inch area and preventing the drive
> carrier from sliding in. Needless to say, I decided not to
> perform this modification!
>
> The case does not provide a fan for the upper drive bay
> so you might want to get one for that, whether or not you
> are able to use the upper drive bay. Hopefully, your video
> cards won't be too long and you won't have the trouble
> that I'm afraid you might...
>
I always expect the worst, so I am never disappointed........:-). The PSU is
a tad over 1" longer than standard, so I might be ok and might not. I found
the case by accident while looking at reviews at www.3dgameman.com . He is
pretty straight forward. The liquid cooling components are very good quality
and the case should be fairly quiet. You cannot by a case and the components
seperately for that price. I will probably have the 4x 500gb drives and
maybe a smaller 80gb or so for OS and Office apps. The 500s will be in 2
raid-0 arrays for audio/video editing. If need be, a Dremel will do
wonders.........:-).


Ed
>

Fishface

Ed Medlin wrote:
> I always expect the worst, so I am never disappointed........:-).
> The PSU is a tad over 1" longer than standard, so I might be ok
> and might not. I found the case by accident while looking at
> reviews at www.3dgameman.com . He is pretty straight forward.
> The liquid cooling components are very good quality and the
> case should be fairly quiet. You cannot by a case and the
> components seperately for that price. I will probably have the
> 4x 500gb drives and maybe a smaller 80gb or so for OS and
> Office apps. The 500s will be in 2 raid-0 arrays for audio/video
> editing. If need be, a Dremel will do wonders.........:-).

I do have the older version P180, but I measured my power supply
and held the ruler up to see where 18 cm would extend. The fan
is held by a plastic holder. How to remove instructions (and video!):
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article255-page5.html

More good case tips:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article249-page1.html

I found some right-angle power connectors at Newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812123167
and...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812145011
....which could be spaced too far apart, but you may not be
adverse to a little cutting and splicing.

Four drives are all that fit in the bottom, so you'd have to
stick the fifth somewhere else, anyway.

Here's a right angled SATA II cable:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812123111

....and, uh, silent fan reviews:
www.silentpcreview.com/article695-page1.html

Heatsinkfactory.com has a lot of these, and waterblocks,
and they don't run up your shipping on multiple little things.

Ed Medlin

"Fishface" <invalid@ddress.ok?> wrote in message
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> Ed Medlin wrote:
>> I always expect the worst, so I am never disappointed........:-).
>> The PSU is a tad over 1" longer than standard, so I might be ok
>> and might not. I found the case by accident while looking at
>> reviews at www.3dgameman.com . He is pretty straight forward.
>> The liquid cooling components are very good quality and the
>> case should be fairly quiet. You cannot by a case and the
>> components seperately for that price. I will probably have the
>> 4x 500gb drives and maybe a smaller 80gb or so for OS and
>> Office apps. The 500s will be in 2 raid-0 arrays for audio/video
>> editing. If need be, a Dremel will do wonders.........:-).
>
> I do have the older version P180, but I measured my power supply
> and held the ruler up to see where 18 cm would extend. The fan
> is held by a plastic holder. How to remove instructions (and video!):
> http://www.silentpcreview.com/article255-page5.html
>
> More good case tips:
> http://www.silentpcreview.com/article249-page1.html
>
> I found some right-angle power connectors at Newegg:
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812123167
> and...
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812145011
> ...which could be spaced too far apart, but you may not be
> adverse to a little cutting and splicing.
>
> Four drives are all that fit in the bottom, so you'd have to
> stick the fifth somewhere else, anyway.
>
> Here's a right angled SATA II cable:
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812123111
>
> ...and, uh, silent fan reviews:
> www.silentpcreview.com/article695-page1.html
>
> Heatsinkfactory.com has a lot of these, and waterblocks,
> and they don't run up your shipping on multiple little things.
>
All very good info. Thank you much for the trouble looking all that
up........:-) I had been looking for the right-angle cables and had not
found them yet, so that is a big one. I am going to order some 7.1 speakers
today at Newegg, so might as well get the cables too. Parts are trickleing
in, no case or MB yesterday, so I should see the rest arrive today to get
started fitting the case. I have plenty of quiet 80 and 100mm fans here in
my shop, so I should be ok in that department. I also have some old
watercooling stuff too. I am betting that I will have a chipset waterblock
if I decide to go that way. Waterblocks for the video are expensive as hell
with some versions for the 8800s going for $250-300 for the two cards. I
will wait and see on those. Thanks again for all the help.


Ed
>

Fishface

Those 8800 GTS cards look very long in the pictures.
Because of the space allowed for a fan in front of the
removable upper drive bay on the P180 and the video
card manufacturers' propensity for protruding power
plugs, I predict possible problems. A two inch deeper
case or sideways mounted drives would have made
for a better design. I was toying with the idea of turning
the upper bay sideways, but that would block the airflow,
unless holes were also cut...

Phil Weldon

'Fishface' wrote, in part:
| Those 8800 GTS cards look very long in the pictures.
_____

My EVGA 8800 GTS is 9.2 inches long, and extends to within ~ 0.5 inches of
the front edge of the EVGA 680i motherboard. The floppy connector and two
right angle SATA connectors are just past the end of the display adapter.
The + 12 VDC socket for the 8800 GTS is flush with the front edge and at the
top corner, so the + 12 VDC plug and the radius bend take up an additional
inch. The 0.5 inch of radius bend in the cable extends past the motherboard
edge by that much.

Phil Weldon


"Fishface" <invalid@ddress.ok?> wrote in message
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| Because of the space allowed for a fan in front of the
| removable upper drive bay on the P180 and the video
| card manufacturers' propensity for protruding power
| plugs, I predict possible problems. A two inch deeper
| case or sideways mounted drives would have made
| for a better design. I was toying with the idea of turning
| the upper bay sideways, but that would block the airflow,
| unless holes were also cut...
|
|

Ed Medlin

"Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed@example.com>
wrote in message
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> 'Fishface' wrote, in part:
> | Those 8800 GTS cards look very long in
> the pictures.
> _____
>
> My EVGA 8800 GTS is 9.2 inches long, and
> extends to within ~ 0.5 inches of
> the front edge of the EVGA 680i
> motherboard. The floppy connector and
> two
> right angle SATA connectors are just
> past the end of the display adapter.
> The + 12 VDC socket for the 8800 GTS is
> flush with the front edge and at the
> top corner, so the + 12 VDC plug and the
> radius bend take up an additional
> inch. The 0.5 inch of radius bend in
> the cable extends past the motherboard
> edge by that much.
>
> Phil Weldon
>
That gives me some good info. I may need
to do a bit of Dremel work on the top
drive bay....:-). I won't know for sure
until I get everything fitted and
measured.

Ed