Check Canon Cli-8 ink level without removing cartridge (foto's)

OpaPiloot

http://members.lycos.nl/dmjbijzboek/...8-inklevel.jpg
Top: CLI-8 cartridge with light guide cut away
Bottom: checking the ink level is easy now

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Have fun, Bert

william.pease@verizon.net

Thanks, Bert. That's a great tip. I found that a small, fine pair of
snips, or clippers, will snip the piece of plastic off most of the way
down too--certainly enough to see when the cartridge needs refilling.

Canon sure as heck went to a lot of trouble to hide the ink level
while the cartridges were in the printer, didn't they? And probably
that tapered piece of plastic plus the metal clip that holds it at the
top were both causes for Canon to increase the cost of their
cartridges over the old series of cartridges. We pay for it every time
we buy one!

When is someone going to come out with a reliable CFS (continuous flow
system) for the Canon pixma line of printers so we don't have to put
up with such foolishness?

I'll bet Canon engineers are already trying to figure a better way to
substitute something else for the tapered plastic piece & its metal
clip to make absolutely sure they can ***** us into buying their
overpriced cartridges. What a great way to engender brand goodwill and
loyalty!





On Dec 1, 12:07 pm, OpaPiloot <me@forget._it> wrote:
> http://members.lycos.nl/dmjbijzboek/...8-inklevel.jpg
> Top: CLI-8 cartridge with light guide cut away
> Bottom: checking the ink level is easy now
>
> --
> Have fun, Bert

Rifty

<> wrote:

> Thanks, Bert. That's a great tip. I found that a small, fine pair of
> snips, or clippers, will snip the piece of plastic off most of the way
> down too--certainly enough to see when the cartridge needs refilling.
>
> Canon sure as heck went to a lot of trouble to hide the ink level
> while the cartridges were in the printer, didn't they? And probably
> that tapered piece of plastic plus the metal clip that holds it at the
> top were both causes for Canon to increase the cost of their
> cartridges over the old series of cartridges. We pay for it every time
> we buy one!
>
> When is someone going to come out with a reliable CFS (continuous flow
> system) for the Canon pixma line of printers so we don't have to put
> up with such foolishness?
>
> I'll bet Canon engineers are already trying to figure a better way to
> substitute something else for the tapered plastic piece & its metal
> clip to make absolutely sure they can ***** us into buying their
> overpriced cartridges. What a great way to engender brand goodwill and
> loyalty!
>

Completely agree with your sentiments. I have half a dozen catridges of
third party ink which worked perfectly well in a Pixma 3000 that are
just a fraction different in shape from the 4300.

And their ink is ridiculously overpriced. I use one for printing labels
on DVDs - does anyone use another printer that does that job but with
more sensibly priced cartridges?

Rifty
--
riftynet - put a dot after rifty

Michael Johnson

Rifty wrote:
> <> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Bert. That's a great tip. I found that a small, fine pair of
>> snips, or clippers, will snip the piece of plastic off most of the way
>> down too--certainly enough to see when the cartridge needs refilling.
>>
>> Canon sure as heck went to a lot of trouble to hide the ink level
>> while the cartridges were in the printer, didn't they? And probably
>> that tapered piece of plastic plus the metal clip that holds it at the
>> top were both causes for Canon to increase the cost of their
>> cartridges over the old series of cartridges. We pay for it every time
>> we buy one!
>>
>> When is someone going to come out with a reliable CFS (continuous flow
>> system) for the Canon pixma line of printers so we don't have to put
>> up with such foolishness?
>>
>> I'll bet Canon engineers are already trying to figure a better way to
>> substitute something else for the tapered plastic piece & its metal
>> clip to make absolutely sure they can ***** us into buying their
>> overpriced cartridges. What a great way to engender brand goodwill and
>> loyalty!
>>
>
> Completely agree with your sentiments. I have half a dozen catridges of
> third party ink which worked perfectly well in a Pixma 3000 that are
> just a fraction different in shape from the 4300.
>
> And their ink is ridiculously overpriced. I use one for printing labels
> on DVDs - does anyone use another printer that does that job but with
> more sensibly priced cartridges?

We have several non-chipped Canon inkjet printers that will be used
until total failure. I'll even replace the ink purging systems should
they need it and if the parts are available before buying a new printer
using chipped cartridges. I save almost $50 for every set of compatible
cartridges I use over OEM ink. At this rate of savings it pays to do
the repairs when and if they are ever needed. At least with the new
Canons you can refill if you can live without ink level monitoring.

measekite

Michael Johnson wrote:
> Rifty wrote:
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Bert. That's a great tip. I found that a small, fine pair of
>>> snips, or clippers, will snip the piece of plastic off most of the way
>>> down too--certainly enough to see when the cartridge needs refilling.
>>>
>>> Canon sure as heck went to a lot of trouble to hide the ink level
>>> while the cartridges were in the printer, didn't they? And probably
>>> that tapered piece of plastic plus the metal clip that holds it at the
>>> top were both causes for Canon to increase the cost of their
>>> cartridges over the old series of cartridges. We pay for it every time
>>> we buy one!
>>>
>>> When is someone going to come out with a reliable CFS (continuous flow
>>> system) for the Canon pixma line of printers so we don't have to put
>>> up with such foolishness?
>>>
>>> I'll bet Canon engineers are already trying to figure a better way to
>>> substitute something else for the tapered plastic piece & its metal
>>> clip to make absolutely sure they can ***** us into buying their
>>> overpriced cartridges. What a great way to engender brand goodwill and
>>> loyalty!
>>>
>>
>> Completely agree with your sentiments. I have half a dozen catridges of
>> third party ink which worked perfectly well in a Pixma 3000 that are
>> just a fraction different in shape from the 4300.
>> And their ink is ridiculously overpriced. I use one for printing labels
>> on DVDs - does anyone use another printer that does that job but with
>> more sensibly priced cartridges?
>
> We have several non-chipped Canon inkjet printers that will be used
> until total failure. I'll even replace the ink purging systems should
> they need it and if the parts are available before buying a new
> printer using chipped cartridges. I save almost $50
Not really. You do not save since you do not get the same thing. Of
course hot dogs are cheaper than steak but if you spend $10.00 less on a
meal you did not save it but just spent less for less.
> for every set of compatible cartridges I use over OEM ink. At this
> rate of savings it pays to do the repairs when and if they are ever
> needed. At least with the new Canons you can refill if you can live
> without ink level monitoring.

Frank

measekite wrote:


....his usual unbelievably stupid bullshit lies.
Frank

phineaspaine@yahoo.com

On Feb 7, 7:48*am, Michael Johnson <> wrote:
> Rifty wrote:
> > <> wrote:
>
> >> Thanks, Bert. That's a great tip. I found that a small, fine pair of
> >> snips, or clippers, will snip the piece of plastic off most of the way
> >> down too--certainly enough to see when the cartridge needs refilling.
>
> >> Canon sure as heck went to a lot of trouble to hide the ink level
> >> while the cartridges were in the printer, didn't they? And probably
> >> that tapered piece of plastic plus the metal clip that holds it at the
> >> top were both causes for Canon to increase the cost of their
> >> cartridges over the old series of cartridges. We pay for it every time
> >> we buy one!
>
> >> When is someone going to come out with a reliable CFS (continuous flow
> >> system) for the Canon pixma line of printers so we don't have to put
> >> up with such foolishness?
>
> >> I'll bet Canon engineers are already trying to figure a better way to
> >> substitute something else for the tapered plastic piece & its metal
> >> clip to make absolutely sure they can ***** us into buying their
> >> overpriced cartridges. What a great way to engender brand goodwill and
> >> loyalty!
>
> > Completely agree with your sentiments. I have half a dozen catridges of
> > third party ink which worked perfectly well in a Pixma 3000 that are
> > just a fraction different in shape from the 4300.
>
> > And their ink is ridiculously overpriced. I use one for printing labels
> > on DVDs - does anyone use another printer that does that job but with
> > more sensibly priced cartridges?
>
> We have several non-chipped Canon inkjet printers that will be used
> until total failure. *I'll even replace the ink purging systems should
> they need it and if the parts are available before buying a new printer
> using chipped cartridges. *I save almost $50 for every set of compatible
> cartridges I use over OEM ink. *At this rate of savings it pays to do
> the repairs when and if they are ever needed. *At least with the new
> Canons you can refill if you can live without ink level monitoring.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Ink savings can indeed be substantial:

http://www.geocities.com/phineaspaine/ip5000.jpg

If you look at my EEPROM info sheet example, you read correctly. At
the date of printing (Oct. 12/2006), this iP5000, my first, had 8,294
pages on it. I generated this particular page to document the stats
when it's first printhead wore out. On close inspection /
magnification, the pigment black (BCI-3eBK) nozzles were flattened and
worn from use, so a new printhead was required. If you look at the
cartridge count (CT= in the first paragraph), you'll see it used 13 x
BCI-3eBk pigment blacks, 4 x BCI-6 black, 9 x BCI-6 cyan, 10 x BCI-6
magenta, and 10 BCI-6 yellow. Only the initial, factory-supplied set
were Canon OEM. After that I used nothing but CoralJet non-OEM
cartridges, and I've used enough of them over a long enough period of
time to be completely satisfied that they're functionally equivalent
to OEM for my purposes (mainly plain paper colour printing).
Regardless, that's a total of 41 cartridges at $1.80 each, or $84.87
including sales taxes, or about a penny a page. If I had purchased
Canon OEM inks, the total cost would have been $943.00, or almost 11.5
cents a page! That's a HUGE savings of $858.13.

I have a 2nd iP5000 on which I do most of my personal photo printing.
It now has 1246 pages printed, of which 133 are photos, and 45 are
CDs. So far, I've only had to replace each of the factory OEM
cartridges twice. That's 10 cartridges at $1.80, or $20.70 including
tax, or about 1.6 cents average per page. If I had purchased Canon
OEM inks, the total cost would have been $230.00, or 18.5 cents
average per page. Savings: $209.30.

That's over a thousand dollars just between these two printers!

On the 1st iP5000, I've since replaced the waste ink pads, reset the
waste ink counter, and now, with 9,878 pages on it, 1,874 of those on
it's 2nd printhead, it is still going strong, and it still prints
perfectly, even photos! I also have 2 more iP5000's in my family,
plus 2 iP5200's and 1 iP5300's. The 2nd and 3rd generation iP's also
use CoralJET cartridges, with the factory chips transferred, and ink
monitoring disabled for now...whoop-dee-do! I can re-enable it if a
chip resetter ever comes along - service mode rocks!

Great idea of trimming that plastic away to see the ink levels. I'll
have to try that. Thanks!

Also, all 7 of our "North American" Pixmas can also print on printable
CD/DVDs, and all do an excellent job of it. Great printers...

Cheers!
Phineas

Michael Johnson

wrote:
> On Feb 7, 7:48 am, Michael Johnson <> wrote:
>> Rifty wrote:
>>> <> wrote:
>>>> Thanks, Bert. That's a great tip. I found that a small, fine pair of
>>>> snips, or clippers, will snip the piece of plastic off most of the way
>>>> down too--certainly enough to see when the cartridge needs refilling.
>>>> Canon sure as heck went to a lot of trouble to hide the ink level
>>>> while the cartridges were in the printer, didn't they? And probably
>>>> that tapered piece of plastic plus the metal clip that holds it at the
>>>> top were both causes for Canon to increase the cost of their
>>>> cartridges over the old series of cartridges. We pay for it every time
>>>> we buy one!
>>>> When is someone going to come out with a reliable CFS (continuous flow
>>>> system) for the Canon pixma line of printers so we don't have to put
>>>> up with such foolishness?
>>>> I'll bet Canon engineers are already trying to figure a better way to
>>>> substitute something else for the tapered plastic piece & its metal
>>>> clip to make absolutely sure they can ***** us into buying their
>>>> overpriced cartridges. What a great way to engender brand goodwill and
>>>> loyalty!
>>> Completely agree with your sentiments. I have half a dozen catridges of
>>> third party ink which worked perfectly well in a Pixma 3000 that are
>>> just a fraction different in shape from the 4300.
>>> And their ink is ridiculously overpriced. I use one for printing labels
>>> on DVDs - does anyone use another printer that does that job but with
>>> more sensibly priced cartridges?
>> We have several non-chipped Canon inkjet printers that will be used
>> until total failure. I'll even replace the ink purging systems should
>> they need it and if the parts are available before buying a new printer
>> using chipped cartridges. I save almost $50 for every set of compatible
>> cartridges I use over OEM ink. At this rate of savings it pays to do
>> the repairs when and if they are ever needed. At least with the new
>> Canons you can refill if you can live without ink level monitoring.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Ink savings can indeed be substantial:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/phineaspaine/ip5000.jpg
>
> If you look at my EEPROM info sheet example, you read correctly. At
> the date of printing (Oct. 12/2006), this iP5000, my first, had 8,294
> pages on it. I generated this particular page to document the stats
> when it's first printhead wore out. On close inspection /
> magnification, the pigment black (BCI-3eBK) nozzles were flattened and
> worn from use, so a new printhead was required. If you look at the
> cartridge count (CT= in the first paragraph), you'll see it used 13 x
> BCI-3eBk pigment blacks, 4 x BCI-6 black, 9 x BCI-6 cyan, 10 x BCI-6
> magenta, and 10 BCI-6 yellow. Only the initial, factory-supplied set
> were Canon OEM. After that I used nothing but CoralJet non-OEM
> cartridges, and I've used enough of them over a long enough period of
> time to be completely satisfied that they're functionally equivalent
> to OEM for my purposes (mainly plain paper colour printing).
> Regardless, that's a total of 41 cartridges at $1.80 each, or $84.87
> including sales taxes, or about a penny a page. If I had purchased
> Canon OEM inks, the total cost would have been $943.00, or almost 11.5
> cents a page! That's a HUGE savings of $858.13.
>
> I have a 2nd iP5000 on which I do most of my personal photo printing.
> It now has 1246 pages printed, of which 133 are photos, and 45 are
> CDs. So far, I've only had to replace each of the factory OEM
> cartridges twice. That's 10 cartridges at $1.80, or $20.70 including
> tax, or about 1.6 cents average per page. If I had purchased Canon
> OEM inks, the total cost would have been $230.00, or 18.5 cents
> average per page. Savings: $209.30.
>
> That's over a thousand dollars just between these two printers!
>
> On the 1st iP5000, I've since replaced the waste ink pads, reset the
> waste ink counter, and now, with 9,878 pages on it, 1,874 of those on
> it's 2nd printhead, it is still going strong, and it still prints
> perfectly, even photos! I also have 2 more iP5000's in my family,
> plus 2 iP5200's and 1 iP5300's. The 2nd and 3rd generation iP's also
> use CoralJET cartridges, with the factory chips transferred, and ink
> monitoring disabled for now...whoop-dee-do! I can re-enable it if a
> chip resetter ever comes along - service mode rocks!
>
> Great idea of trimming that plastic away to see the ink levels. I'll
> have to try that. Thanks!
>
> Also, all 7 of our "North American" Pixmas can also print on printable
> CD/DVDs, and all do an excellent job of it. Great printers...

I couldn't begin to guess at how much I have saved using compatible ink
in five Canon inkjet printers. I have gone through at least 200-250
cartridges over the years.

measekite

Michael Johnson wrote:
> snip

>
> I couldn't begin to guess at how much I have saved using compatible
> ink in five Canon inkjet printers. I have gone through at least
> 200-250 cartridges over the years.
You saved nothing. You may have spent less. When one gets less and
spends less they did not save anything. You only save when you get the
same exact product for less money at some vendor and only if you need it
not because you bought something that you just did not need because it
cost less. Look at the real truth.

Frank

measekite wrote:
>
>
> Michael Johnson wrote:
>
>> snip
>
>
>>
>> I couldn't begin to guess at how much I have saved using compatible
>> ink in five Canon inkjet printers. I have gone through at least
>> 200-250 cartridges over the years.
>
> You saved nothing. You may have spent less. When one gets less and
> spends less they did not save anything. You only save when you get the
> same exact product for less money at some vendor and only if you need it
> not because you bought something that you just did not need because it
> cost less. Look at the real truth.

Lying idiot!
Frank