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Old 01-04-2009, 11:35 AM   #21
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Re: I need your opinion on this configuration...

Well just got back from school, heres a link I bookmarked I had for some time and please read through every page thoroughly, esp the benchmarks table results and comparisons.

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Re: I need your opinion on this configuration...

I've learned that GTX295 is better. Thanks for pointing the review.
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Old 01-04-2009, 04:54 PM   #23
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Re: I need your opinion on this configuration...

No problems, by the way, what kind of things do you design etc, and what type of movies you make produce or edit? I'm keen to know
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Re: I need your opinion on this configuration...

I'm in the weddings industry and I plan to bring 3D into it.

I'm from Romania, and here people put a tremendous amount of interest in the way their wedding is captured on tape and on the way the final product looks like.

My dad is in the industry since '92 and things were easy back then... people didn't own cameras, they didn't even own VCRs, but as time passed and technology advanced and became cheaper and cheaper many gained acces to it and now there are over 100 persons in my town alone that offer filming services. That is not good for me... Even if I put a lot of work in editing the movie I still can't get in the top (and my father used to rule the town and the surrounding areas in this regard).

3 years ago I planned to blow the grooms' mind with elements they have never seen before, using blue screens and special filming techniques, but something was missing, and that something was 3D.

As time passed stuff happened and I deviated from my goal to learn and to master Lightwave, and I dedicated myself to the photo industry which I own in a proportion of 70%. Even if I earn good money, it's still not enough for my potential (and for developing some other projects of mine).

So, I'm planing a comeback and I know that nobody in my town is going to stand in my way when embeding 3D elements (mainly characters) in the wedding films and when transposing the wedding into a virtual fantasy environment.
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Old 01-04-2009, 05:37 PM   #25
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Re: I need your opinion on this configuration...

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Actually nvidia's cuda technology actually helps in any games with physx support full stop, crysis doesn't have Ageia Physx technology its just the way the game was built has the physx feature like, any game with Physx support, which is basically 70% of the intensive games released these days take advantage of Physx from 2007 onwards.
Chef, I do know what CUDA technology is.....and if you dont know how its related to Ageia's PhysX then here..you should pop your eyes on this

And Crysis doesn't support PhysX - Yes you are right...but why ?

because Crytek have built their own proprietary physics engine which is not only more advanced than Ageia's, but performs very well on ordinary CPU's

Hail the mighty Crytek 2 Engine ^^

But does it takes advantage of Nvidia's CUDA ?

Hell of a YES Infact many of them at inCrysis Forum agreed on the amount of Boost they got due to CUDA

Also Mind it, PhysX Support is not full stoped...but continued by Nvidia with the new name CUDA

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I'm nor a ATI Fan Boy niether a Nvidia....

But infact, in a way or other I enjoy both

ATI's X1900 GT ( 3 years old ) on PC while - Still has enough juice to please me - plays Burnout paradise on 1680*1050 with Medium high settings

Nvidia's RXS on PS3

Point is definitely Im not taking Sides with who wipes out whom...

Infact I strongly disagree on your statement GTX 295 wipes out HD4870X2

Yup... 295 is better than 4870X2..and I myself suggested MihaiS to get one...

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Also those ratings is the GTX280 OC vs the 4870x2, not the GTX295. The GTX295 completely wipes out the 4870x2, which is why ATi is in need of releasing their next gen of 5000 ? series cards
As far as the ratings that I've given are concerned..... Those are purely my figures and people may tend to differ. But those are given on basis on research, hours of readings of various forums and reviews.

By the way, its almost sure about the arrival of 49XX in two months or so....

and 58XX in the Q4 of 2009

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A refresh to the current range of cards will be launched over the course of 1H-09, but not as early as January (CeBIT sounds like as good a time as any). That will include a delayed RV740 derivative and a suped-up RV770, which should receive the HD 49xx moniker.
- ATI's HD 49x0 coming soon-ish - The Inquirer

@ MihaiS ... Good luck with your career and go get GTX 295 unless you are willing to wait for two months

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Re: I need your opinion on this configuration...

I guess I can delay the buying of my system until the 4th quarter of this year. I am currently doing some research and learning a lot of stuff about animation techniques and I think I'll be able to wait for a better video board, even if I was eager to empty my pockets on this system.

The thing is that I'm spending my time learning more than working now, so I want to get the best configuration because I won't be able to buy new stuff unless I get some contracts.

To be honest, I can expand my knowledge on the system I currently own, so having in mind that there is new technology awaiting for us in the near future, it might be wise to just wait for 2009 to end then hit the business.

I'm going to use all sorts of multimedia software, but 3D is going to be the most demanding, so getting the latest technology near to the point of getting back into business would be better.

I am glad I came to this forum. You guys are great!
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Re: I need your opinion on this configuration...

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I am glad I came to this forum. You guys are great!
Its my pleasure to help you

And Even I should thank Chef... That boy has stupendous curiosity and ambition

Both of you good luck with your career !!!
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Old 02-04-2009, 09:39 AM   #28
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Re: I need your opinion on this configuration...

OK, I'm not going to continue arguing my point now as its really useless and pointless because it will end up being a war like what happened between me and Darkstar and he resulted in being banned from TT. Really its up to you, but if you want to go after discrete 3d graphics technology just buy a Quadro Plex, that piece of tech will be way better and more then 10 times better then what we have on the market today. So really yeah, and again from personal experience and professional advice from people who have degrees in this kind of thing and have more knowledge then you and I we'll ever have, ATi's are not suitable for workstation uses. Full Stop

PS: Some reviewers are full of crap and not thoroughly enough benchmarked to give us a detail reason of why? so don't always rely on them and user beware.
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:02 AM   #29
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Re: I need your opinion on this configuration...

Hoho, Quadro Plex... I didn't even know something like that exists. I just googled Quadro Plex price and I checked this one: NVIDIA Quadro Plex 920-50375-2503-000. The first thing that amazed me was the price ($27,675.00) then the specs.

I'd have to work 3 years and spend nothing at all to be able to get just that Quadro Plex alone, heh. I guess that's what studios use, but I'm sure I'll be fine with the latest affordable technology if I can put it that way.

As I said, I am eager to get the new system and I was going to get it if it was not for you guys to guide me, but I really don't need it now as I am still learning stuff... I have the feeling that basic knowledge about 3D animation is not enough so I'll be reading some great books and practice on the system I currently own (which can handle exercise without problems), so I'll be waiting for the end of this year to buy the same system but with the best video board at that point in time.

That will also be the time when I'll revive this thread and ask for your opinion again before making the final step.

BUT, theoretically, If I could afford a Quadro Plex system, would that help me in regard of rendering times? I mean, I just need a good video board to handle the 3D interface of the software I'm using, along with the scene objects, but the CPU and RAM amount is what counts most when rendering scenes, right? Or do better video boards improve rendering time as well?
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Old 02-04-2009, 12:59 PM   #30
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Re: I need your opinion on this configuration...

If you do buy the Quadro Plex, that will almost last you a lifetime with whatever you need to do to suit your needs, it will take load off your cpu and ram and will basically speed up everything in your system. Or you can make a move to the Teslas or Quadro Plex workstation cards which cost around almost $2000 each and still better then any discrete hardware we have for desktops on the market today.
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