CentOS 4.5 question

Doug Holtz

"General Schvantzkopf" <schvantzkopf***********> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:16:57 -0600, Doug Holtz wrote:
>
>> Hello Group;
>> I hope this forum is a good place to ask. I installed CentOS 4.4 server
>> without a GUI on a pc. I now want to take the drive and put it in a
>> different pc and make it a GUI desktop. How do I install a GUI desktop
>> off the Internet using yum or up2date? All I seem to be able to do is
>> upgrade the system, which I did to 4.5. My xorg.conf file is listing
>> the wrong hardware; kudzu will not find any new hardware.
>> Help with some direction please.
>> Thanks
>> doug
>
> Install yumex,
> yum -y install yumex
>
> Then ssh in from another system that has X running on it at start yumex.
> Yumex will allow you to install everything you need. If 4.5 has pirut you
> could use that also.

General;
I've seen you out here a long time. Thanks for the reply. I've been
playing with Linux since slackware in 1997, but seem stymied.
I'll try this method ... soon. I'd have to use another CentOS server to ssh
in to use Yumex, and all I have are black screen non-GUI machines. I don't
think I can accomplish what you want me to do, unless of course I can use a
Windows XP machine and putty or pscp in dos mode.
Doug

General Schvantzkopf

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:40:32 -0600, Doug Holtz wrote:

> "General Schvantzkopf" <schvantzkopf***********> wrote in message
> news:zuCdnfrYsfJNBMHanZ2dnUVZ_sHinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:16:57 -0600, Doug Holtz wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Group;
>>> I hope this forum is a good place to ask. I installed CentOS 4.4
>>> server without a GUI on a pc. I now want to take the drive and put it
>>> in a different pc and make it a GUI desktop. How do I install a GUI
>>> desktop off the Internet using yum or up2date? All I seem to be able
>>> to do is upgrade the system, which I did to 4.5. My xorg.conf file is
>>> listing the wrong hardware; kudzu will not find any new hardware. Help
>>> with some direction please.
>>> Thanks
>>> doug
>>
>> Install yumex,
>> yum -y install yumex
>>
>> Then ssh in from another system that has X running on it at start
>> yumex. Yumex will allow you to install everything you need. If 4.5 has
>> pirut you could use that also.
>
> General;
> I've seen you out here a long time. Thanks for the reply. I've been
> playing with Linux since slackware in 1997, but seem stymied. I'll try
> this method ... soon. I'd have to use another CentOS server to ssh in
> to use Yumex, and all I have are black screen non-GUI machines. I don't
> think I can accomplish what you want me to do, unless of course I can
> use a Windows XP machine and putty or pscp in dos mode. Doug

A Windows machine with Cygwin can do the job. If you don't already have
Cygwin installed I'd suggest that you just do a fresh install of CentOS
and this time select the desktop install + customization. Downloading and
installing Cygwin is a very slow process, doing a fresh install of CentOS
only takes 20 minutes. Someone else mentioned CentOS5.1. If you do a
fresh install you might want to consider using it instead of 4.5 unless
you have a specific need for 4.5. 5.1 has compatibility libraries so it
should be able to run everything that 4.5 does and it has a less obsolete
kernel than 4.5.

General Schvantzkopf

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:40:32 -0600, Doug Holtz wrote:

> "General Schvantzkopf" <schvantzkopf***********> wrote in message
> news:zuCdnfrYsfJNBMHanZ2dnUVZ_sHinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:16:57 -0600, Doug Holtz wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Group;
>>> I hope this forum is a good place to ask. I installed CentOS 4.4
>>> server without a GUI on a pc. I now want to take the drive and put it
>>> in a different pc and make it a GUI desktop. How do I install a GUI
>>> desktop off the Internet using yum or up2date? All I seem to be able
>>> to do is upgrade the system, which I did to 4.5. My xorg.conf file is
>>> listing the wrong hardware; kudzu will not find any new hardware. Help
>>> with some direction please.
>>> Thanks
>>> doug
>>
>> Install yumex,
>> yum -y install yumex
>>
>> Then ssh in from another system that has X running on it at start
>> yumex. Yumex will allow you to install everything you need. If 4.5 has
>> pirut you could use that also.
>
> General;
> I've seen you out here a long time. Thanks for the reply. I've been
> playing with Linux since slackware in 1997, but seem stymied. I'll try
> this method ... soon. I'd have to use another CentOS server to ssh in
> to use Yumex, and all I have are black screen non-GUI machines. I don't
> think I can accomplish what you want me to do, unless of course I can
> use a Windows XP machine and putty or pscp in dos mode. Doug

A Windows machine with Cygwin can do the job. If you don't already have
Cygwin installed I'd suggest that you just do a fresh install of CentOS
and this time select the desktop install + customization. Downloading and
installing Cygwin is a very slow process, doing a fresh install of CentOS
only takes 20 minutes. Someone else mentioned CentOS5.1. If you do a
fresh install you might want to consider using it instead of 4.5 unless
you have a specific need for 4.5. 5.1 has compatibility libraries so it
should be able to run everything that 4.5 does and it has a less obsolete
kernel than 4.5.

General Schvantzkopf

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:16:57 -0600, Doug Holtz wrote:

> Hello Group;
> I hope this forum is a good place to ask. I installed CentOS 4.4 server
> without a GUI on a pc. I now want to take the drive and put it in a
> different pc and make it a GUI desktop. How do I install a GUI desktop
> off the Internet using yum or up2date? All I seem to be able to do is
> upgrade the system, which I did to 4.5. My xorg.conf file is listing
> the wrong hardware; kudzu will not find any new hardware.
> Help with some direction please.
> Thanks
> doug

I have another suggestion for you, Webmin. Webmin has a yum front end
under system/servers. It's not as good as yumex or pirut but it looks
like it could do the job for you. Under the Install New Package feature
there is a browse YUM command. Search for gnome, it will bring up a list
of packages. If you install something like Evolution it shold cause it to
install all of Gnome because of the RPM dependencies. Webmin is browser
based so you can run it from one of your Windows boxes. Get Webmin from
http://www.webmin.com

General Schvantzkopf

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:16:57 -0600, Doug Holtz wrote:

> Hello Group;
> I hope this forum is a good place to ask. I installed CentOS 4.4 server
> without a GUI on a pc. I now want to take the drive and put it in a
> different pc and make it a GUI desktop. How do I install a GUI desktop
> off the Internet using yum or up2date? All I seem to be able to do is
> upgrade the system, which I did to 4.5. My xorg.conf file is listing
> the wrong hardware; kudzu will not find any new hardware.
> Help with some direction please.
> Thanks
> doug

I have another suggestion for you, Webmin. Webmin has a yum front end
under system/servers. It's not as good as yumex or pirut but it looks
like it could do the job for you. Under the Install New Package feature
there is a browse YUM command. Search for gnome, it will bring up a list
of packages. If you install something like Evolution it shold cause it to
install all of Gnome because of the RPM dependencies. Webmin is browser
based so you can run it from one of your Windows boxes. Get Webmin from
http://www.webmin.com

General Schvantzkopf

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:56:32 -0600, General Schvantzkopf wrote:

> On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:16:57 -0600, Doug Holtz wrote:
>
>> Hello Group;
>> I hope this forum is a good place to ask. I installed CentOS 4.4 server
>> without a GUI on a pc. I now want to take the drive and put it in a
>> different pc and make it a GUI desktop. How do I install a GUI desktop
>> off the Internet using yum or up2date? All I seem to be able to do is
>> upgrade the system, which I did to 4.5. My xorg.conf file is listing
>> the wrong hardware; kudzu will not find any new hardware. Help with
>> some direction please.
>> Thanks
>> doug
>
> I have another suggestion for you, Webmin. Webmin has a yum front end
> under system/servers. It's not as good as yumex or pirut but it looks
> like it could do the job for you. Under the Install New Package feature
> there is a browse YUM command. Search for gnome, it will bring up a list
> of packages. If you install something like Evolution it shold cause it
> to install all of Gnome because of the RPM dependencies. Webmin is
> browser based so you can run it from one of your Windows boxes. Get
> Webmin from http://www.webmin.com

Sorry the location is System/Software Packages not System/Servers.

General Schvantzkopf

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:56:32 -0600, General Schvantzkopf wrote:

> On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:16:57 -0600, Doug Holtz wrote:
>
>> Hello Group;
>> I hope this forum is a good place to ask. I installed CentOS 4.4 server
>> without a GUI on a pc. I now want to take the drive and put it in a
>> different pc and make it a GUI desktop. How do I install a GUI desktop
>> off the Internet using yum or up2date? All I seem to be able to do is
>> upgrade the system, which I did to 4.5. My xorg.conf file is listing
>> the wrong hardware; kudzu will not find any new hardware. Help with
>> some direction please.
>> Thanks
>> doug
>
> I have another suggestion for you, Webmin. Webmin has a yum front end
> under system/servers. It's not as good as yumex or pirut but it looks
> like it could do the job for you. Under the Install New Package feature
> there is a browse YUM command. Search for gnome, it will bring up a list
> of packages. If you install something like Evolution it shold cause it
> to install all of Gnome because of the RPM dependencies. Webmin is
> browser based so you can run it from one of your Windows boxes. Get
> Webmin from http://www.webmin.com

Sorry the location is System/Software Packages not System/Servers.

Doug Holtz

"General Schvantzkopf" <schvantzkopf***********> wrote in message
news:hICdnbhFzpD6GMPanZ2dnUVZ_t3inZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:40:32 -0600, Doug Holtz wrote:
>
>> "General Schvantzkopf" <schvantzkopf***********> wrote in message
>> news:zuCdnfrYsfJNBMHanZ2dnUVZ_sHinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:16:57 -0600, Doug Holtz wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Group;
>>>> I hope this forum is a good place to ask. I installed CentOS 4.4
>>>> server without a GUI on a pc. I now want to take the drive and put it
>>>> in a different pc and make it a GUI desktop. How do I install a GUI
>>>> desktop off the Internet using yum or up2date? All I seem to be able
>>>> to do is upgrade the system, which I did to 4.5. My xorg.conf file is
>>>> listing the wrong hardware; kudzu will not find any new hardware. Help
>>>> with some direction please.
>>>> Thanks
>>>> doug
>>>
>>> Install yumex,
>>> yum -y install yumex
>>>
>>> Then ssh in from another system that has X running on it at start
>>> yumex. Yumex will allow you to install everything you need. If 4.5 has
>>> pirut you could use that also.
>>
>> General;
>> I've seen you out here a long time. Thanks for the reply. I've been
>> playing with Linux since slackware in 1997, but seem stymied. I'll try
>> this method ... soon. I'd have to use another CentOS server to ssh in
>> to use Yumex, and all I have are black screen non-GUI machines. I don't
>> think I can accomplish what you want me to do, unless of course I can
>> use a Windows XP machine and putty or pscp in dos mode. Doug
>
> A Windows machine with Cygwin can do the job. If you don't already have
> Cygwin installed I'd suggest that you just do a fresh install of CentOS
> and this time select the desktop install + customization. Downloading and
> installing Cygwin is a very slow process, doing a fresh install of CentOS
> only takes 20 minutes. Someone else mentioned CentOS5.1. If you do a
> fresh install you might want to consider using it instead of 4.5 unless
> you have a specific need for 4.5. 5.1 has compatibility libraries so it
> should be able to run everything that 4.5 does and it has a less obsolete
> kernel than 4.5.
>

Not a bad idea, now the version 5 is out.

Doug Holtz

"General Schvantzkopf" <schvantzkopf***********> wrote in message
news:hICdnbhFzpD6GMPanZ2dnUVZ_t3inZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:40:32 -0600, Doug Holtz wrote:
>
>> "General Schvantzkopf" <schvantzkopf***********> wrote in message
>> news:zuCdnfrYsfJNBMHanZ2dnUVZ_sHinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:16:57 -0600, Doug Holtz wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Group;
>>>> I hope this forum is a good place to ask. I installed CentOS 4.4
>>>> server without a GUI on a pc. I now want to take the drive and put it
>>>> in a different pc and make it a GUI desktop. How do I install a GUI
>>>> desktop off the Internet using yum or up2date? All I seem to be able
>>>> to do is upgrade the system, which I did to 4.5. My xorg.conf file is
>>>> listing the wrong hardware; kudzu will not find any new hardware. Help
>>>> with some direction please.
>>>> Thanks
>>>> doug
>>>
>>> Install yumex,
>>> yum -y install yumex
>>>
>>> Then ssh in from another system that has X running on it at start
>>> yumex. Yumex will allow you to install everything you need. If 4.5 has
>>> pirut you could use that also.
>>
>> General;
>> I've seen you out here a long time. Thanks for the reply. I've been
>> playing with Linux since slackware in 1997, but seem stymied. I'll try
>> this method ... soon. I'd have to use another CentOS server to ssh in
>> to use Yumex, and all I have are black screen non-GUI machines. I don't
>> think I can accomplish what you want me to do, unless of course I can
>> use a Windows XP machine and putty or pscp in dos mode. Doug
>
> A Windows machine with Cygwin can do the job. If you don't already have
> Cygwin installed I'd suggest that you just do a fresh install of CentOS
> and this time select the desktop install + customization. Downloading and
> installing Cygwin is a very slow process, doing a fresh install of CentOS
> only takes 20 minutes. Someone else mentioned CentOS5.1. If you do a
> fresh install you might want to consider using it instead of 4.5 unless
> you have a specific need for 4.5. 5.1 has compatibility libraries so it
> should be able to run everything that 4.5 does and it has a less obsolete
> kernel than 4.5.
>

Not a bad idea, now the version 5 is out.

Doug Holtz

"Bruce Coryell" <bcoryell@chesco.com> wrote in message
news:475dc907$0$4630$1e6826b@news.chesco.com...
> dold@26.usenet.us.com wrote:
>> Doug Holtz <dougholtz***********> wrote:
>>
>>>I installed CentOS 4.4 server without a GUI on a pc. I now want to take
>>>the drive and put it in a different pc and make it a GUI desktop. How do
>>>I install a GUI desktop off the Internet using yum or up2date? All I
>>
>>
>> Do you have a GNOME or KDE desktop rpm installed?
>> I would be inclined to try and install
>> gnome-desktop-2.8.0-5.i386.rpm from disc 2 and see what
>> prerequisites it asks for, or maybe I misunderstand your question.
>>
> CentOS 5.1 is out now.

Thanks. I will down load.