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Unread 28-04-2008, 09:25 PM   #1
Howard M. Rensin
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Help with AVG Anti-virus email scanning

I have just installed AVG Free Ver 7.5 and it is blocking my sending web
pages in the body of emails. I am running XP SP2 on my desktop and using
Outlook 2003 as my email client and IE 6 as my browser. With the browser
open and on a page I want to sent to someone, I pull down the Tools menu and
click on the top item which is email & news. I then click on 'Send Page' and
it opens a composition window with the web page in the body. If I then send
that to someone, AVG blocks the entire web page and the only thing that
comes through is AVG's message that the email has been scanned. I did not
have this problem with Norton.
Does anyone have a suggestion on how to fix the problem and still use
AVG and have it scan the email?



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Unread 28-04-2008, 10:28 PM   #2
Beauregard T. Shagnasty
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Re: Help with AVG Anti-virus email scanning

Howard M. Rensin wrote:

> I have just installed AVG Free Ver 7.5 and it is blocking my sending web
> pages in the body of emails.


Were the answers you got in the other group you multi-posted to
unsatisfactory?

<quote>
Why You Don't Need Your Anti-Virus Program to Scan Your E-Mail
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm
</quote>

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Unread 28-04-2008, 10:29 PM   #3
Sebastian G.
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Re: Help with AVG Anti-virus email scanning

Howard M. Rensin wrote:

> I have just installed AVG Free Ver 7.5 and it is blocking my sending web
> pages in the body of emails. I am running XP SP2 on my desktop and using
> Outlook 2003 as my email client and IE 6 as my browser.



Seems like it does the right thing.

> I did not have this problem with Norton.



So you suggested the developers to add this annoyance?

> Does anyone have a suggestion on how to fix the problem and still use
> AVG and have it scan the email?


Well, what exactly is your problem? It seems to work exactly as it should:
hinder horribly insecure applications being abused for unsuitable scenarios.
 
Unread 29-04-2008, 02:33 PM   #4
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Re: Help with AVG Anti-virus email scanning

"Howard M. Rensin" <hrensin***********> wrote in
news:QoydnbkcS8nSqYvVnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@comcast.com:

> I have just installed AVG Free Ver 7.5 and it is blocking my sending web
> pages in the body of emails. I am running XP SP2 on my desktop and using
> Outlook 2003 as my email client and IE 6 as my browser. With the browser
> open and on a page I want to sent to someone, I pull down the Tools menu
> and click on the top item which is email & news. I then click on 'Send
> Page' and it opens a composition window with the web page in the body.
> If I then send that to someone, AVG blocks the entire web page and the
> only thing that comes through is AVG's message that the email has been
> scanned. I did not have this problem with Norton.
> Does anyone have a suggestion on how to fix the problem and still
> use
> AVG and have it scan the email?


E-mail should be plain text, not HTML. The behavior is correct.
If you want to send a web page to someone, send them the URL so they can
visit the page.

If you NEED to send HTML to someone, zip or compress it into a file and
rename the file so that it does NOT end in .zip (I rename mine ..piz)

The rename is because so many viruses have been sending zip files AND
Micro-soft [in their in-finite wisdom] made their mail client execute some
types of files, automatically, so that now, some ISPs filter out all mail
containing zip files as malicious.





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bz+csm@ch100-5.chem.lsu.edu remove ch100-5 to avoid spam trap
 
Unread 29-04-2008, 02:33 PM   #5
Ertugrul Söylemez
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Re: Help with AVG Anti-virus email scanning

bz <bz+csm@ch100-5.chem.lsu.edu> wrote:

> E-mail should be plain text, not HTML. The behavior is correct.
> If you want to send a web page to someone, send them the URL so they
> can visit the page.
>
> If you NEED to send HTML to someone, zip or compress it into a file
> and rename the file so that it does NOT end in .zip (I rename mine
> ..piz)


What's wrong with HTML emails without remote content? Why the
unnecessary inconvenience with ZIP files? I understand that in some
places (e.g. newsgroups) HTML mails are inappropriate, but why this
generalization?


Regards,
Ertugrul.


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Unread 29-04-2008, 04:57 PM   #6
jc
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Re: Help with AVG Anti-virus email scanning

Ertugrul Söylemez wrote:
> bz <bz+csm@ch100-5.chem.lsu.edu> wrote:
>
>> E-mail should be plain text, not HTML. The behavior is correct.
>> If you want to send a web page to someone, send them the URL so they
>> can visit the page.
>>
>> If you NEED to send HTML to someone, zip or compress it into a file
>> and rename the file so that it does NOT end in .zip (I rename mine
>> ..piz)

>
> What's wrong with HTML emails without remote content? Why the
> unnecessary inconvenience with ZIP files? I understand that in some
> places (e.g. newsgroups) HTML mails are inappropriate, but why this
> generalization?
>
>


HTML may contain malicious script. Some people set their email clients
to view messages in plain text only.


jc
 
Unread 29-04-2008, 04:57 PM   #7
bz
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Ertugrul =?UTF-8?B?U8O2eWxlbWV6?= <es@ertes.de> wrote in
news:fv7aq6$ta7$02$1@news.t-online.com:

> bz <bz+csm@ch100-5.chem.lsu.edu> wrote:
>
>> E-mail should be plain text, not HTML. The behavior is correct.
>> If you want to send a web page to someone, send them the URL so they
>> can visit the page.
>>
>> If you NEED to send HTML to someone, zip or compress it into a file
>> and rename the file so that it does NOT end in .zip (I rename mine
>> ..piz)

>
> What's wrong with HTML emails without remote content? Why the
> unnecessary inconvenience with ZIP files? I understand that in some
> places (e.g. newsgroups) HTML mails are inappropriate, but why this
> generalization?


Oh, here are a few of my reasons:

1) E-mail was originally designed to convey textual information, NOT html.
Information, not 'beauty' or 'cute'.

2) html enabled e-mail clients are executing programs that others have
sent you when they render html coded text.

3) it is practially impossible to 'foolproof' such rendering so as to
protect the viewer from all possible attacks.

4) embeded images in html can tell the sender 'an idiot
just opened the e-mail I sent them' so you just told the spammer that the
e-mail address is a good one. He can now sell it to other spammers.

5) html encoded stuff takes more bytes to transmit. Often lots more.

6) html can be coded so that the viewer sees one link while being sent to a
different place on the web.

7) Those that fight spam OFTEN use text only e-mail client in self defense.
I do.
8) Some discard ALL html encoded and graphic encoded incoming e-mail,
unviewed.


There are several other good reasons that I can't think of at the moment
but they are all related to 'microsoft thought it would be cool to make
messages pretty. They assumed a small offfice environment.' Since they
came up with that bright idea, many viruses have been spread that way.
They keep plugging holes in the dike, but there are more hole yet to be
discovered.

It (html via e-mail) was a bad idea to start with. It is STILL a bad idea.
Nothing I can think of will ever make it a good idea.

Of course, opinions are like noses, everyone has one.

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bz

please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is an
infinite set.

bz+csm@ch100-5.chem.lsu.edu remove ch100-5 to avoid spam trap
 
Unread 29-04-2008, 05:42 PM   #8
Sebastian G.
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Re: Help with AVG Anti-virus email scanning

Ertugrul Söylemez wrote:


> What's wrong with HTML emails without remote content?


<!doctype stupid><html><head><meta name="foo"
content="bar"><title>baz</title></head><body><p>Nothing, it's very readible
if the receiver's client doesn't support HTML.</body></html>

> Why the unnecessary inconvenience with ZIP files? I understand that in some
> places (e.g. newsgroups) HTML mails are inappropriate, but why this
> generalization?



Because there's no standard for it, neither de-jure nor de-facto? because
there is a standard to include some basic formatting (text/enriched)?
Because it's a waste or bandwidth? Because eMail isn't supposed to emit any
formatting? Because HTML is meant for hypertext, not formatted documents?
 
Unread 29-04-2008, 05:42 PM   #9
Sebastian G.
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Re: Help with AVG Anti-virus email scanning

bz wrote:


> There are several other good reasons that I can't think of at the moment
> but they are all related to 'microsoft thought it would be cool to make
> messages pretty. They assumed a small offfice environment.'



Microsoft just copied what Netscape has started. Just that Microsoft's
pseudo-mail clients where really just intended for an isolated small office
environment, and later some stupid marketing fool decided to expose them to
the Internet.
 
Unread 29-04-2008, 05:42 PM   #10
Howard M. Rensin
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Re: Help with AVG Anti-virus email scanning

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I would not keep posting if I got a real response and not some smartass
comment. I have better things to do than keep asking the same question when
I get an answer and 'change email scanners' is not an answer to an AVG
problem.

"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:4816433b$0$7039$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Howard M. Rensin wrote:
>
>> I have just installed AVG Free Ver 7.5 and it is blocking my sending web
>> pages in the body of emails.

>
> Were the answers you got in the other group you multi-posted to
> unsatisfactory?
>
> <quote>
> Why You Don't Need Your Anti-Virus Program to Scan Your E-Mail
> http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm
> </quote>
>
> --
> -bts
> -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck




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