Dave Seven

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:

> See: http://free.grisoft.com/ww.faq.num-1319#faq_1319
>
> Having upgraded to the AVG Free 8.0., I recently uninstalled SpyBot S&D,
> and my computer is now running much faster than before, with no hangs.
>
> When I ran the AVG 8.0 scan, it found about 130 warnings, which got moved
> to the virus vault. Better safe than sorry. But then I read the FAQ,
> and realized AVG is incompatible with SpyBot, SpywareBlaster, etc., so I
> got rid of them. Now my XP2 machine has only AVG Free 8.0 and the Comodo
> freeware "Firewall Pro" to protect it. So far, so good.
>
> But until we see the first anti-malware comparison reports, we won't really
> know if the AVG Free 8.0 anti-spyware component is working as advertised.
> The other way would be if my Internet browser got "hijacked", but I do a
> lot of web browsing, and so far everything appears to be normal, knock on
> wood.
>
> --
> Ckyp
>
>

Glad I stuck with 7.5 then. I did download 8.0 but never installed it. I
use Spywareblaster and Spybot so don't need the aggor of AVG giving
false warnings.

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer

On Tue, 06 May 2008, Dave Seven <notfor@email.invalid> wrote:
>Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:
>
>> See: http://free.grisoft.com/ww.faq.num-1319#faq_1319
>>
>> Having upgraded to the AVG Free 8.0., I recently uninstalled SpyBot S&D,
>> and my computer is now running much faster than before, with no hangs.
>>
>> When I ran the AVG 8.0 scan, it found about 130 warnings, which got moved
>> to the virus vault. Better safe than sorry. But then I read the FAQ,
>> and realized AVG is incompatible with SpyBot, SpywareBlaster, etc., so I
>> got rid of them. Now my XP2 machine has only AVG Free 8.0 and the Comodo
>> freeware "Firewall Pro" to protect it. So far, so good.
>>
>> But until we see the first anti-malware comparison reports, we won't really
>> know if the AVG Free 8.0 anti-spyware component is working as advertised.
>> The other way would be if my Internet browser got "hijacked", but I do a
>> lot of web browsing, and so far everything appears to be normal, knock on
>> wood.
>>
>>
>
>Glad I stuck with 7.5 then. I did download 8.0 but never installed it. I
>use Spywareblaster and Spybot so don't need the aggor of AVG giving
>false warnings.

I guess it comes down to what the end-user considers to be more important,
anti-virus, or anti-spyware? I know they're both important, but I'm pretty
sure that anti-virus is more important. In fact I know it is. You should
read through all the improvements to AVG Free 8.0. According to the
manufacturer, it's a lot better than the old AVG Free 7.5. And my computer is
running so much faster and smoother since I uninstalled S&D and SpywareBlaster,
I can't imagine why anyone would opt out of the AVG freeware upgrade?

They say you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. lol!

--
Ckyp

Gaz

Dave Seven wrote:
> Gaz wrote:
>
>> Version 8 by the way is awful, it has a much greater footprint then
>> avg7.5, the scanning engine is much much slower, it is sluggish and
>> adds considerable time to boot up. I would no longer recommend AVG
>> for an older machine (less then 1gb and slower then dual core).
>>
>> Gaz
>>
>>
>
> It scans for spyware too and not just virus now so that is probably
> why.

Maybe it uses the Norton Internet Security method, by making your computer
using experieince so slow and pointless as to stop you using the computer as
much.

Gaz

Gaz

Dave Seven wrote:
> Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:
>
>> See: http://free.grisoft.com/ww.faq.num-1319#faq_1319
>>
>> Having upgraded to the AVG Free 8.0., I recently uninstalled SpyBot
>> S&D, and my computer is now running much faster than before, with no
>> hangs. When I ran the AVG 8.0 scan, it found about 130 warnings, which
>> got
>> moved to the virus vault. Better safe than sorry. But then I read
>> the FAQ, and realized AVG is incompatible with SpyBot, SpywareBlaster,
>> etc.,
>> so I got rid of them. Now my XP2 machine has only AVG Free 8.0 and
>> the Comodo freeware "Firewall Pro" to protect it. So far, so good.
>>
>> But until we see the first anti-malware comparison reports, we won't
>> really know if the AVG Free 8.0 anti-spyware component is working as
>> advertised. The other way would be if my Internet browser got
>> "hijacked", but I do a lot of web browsing, and so far everything
>> appears to be normal, knock on wood.
>>
>> --
>> Ckyp
>>
>>
>
> Glad I stuck with 7.5 then. I did download 8.0 but never installed
> it. I use Spywareblaster and Spybot so don't need the aggor of AVG
> giving false warnings.

7.5 wont carry on for long though...........

Gaz

Gaz

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:

>
> I guess it comes down to what the end-user considers to be more
> important, anti-virus, or anti-spyware? I know they're both
> important, but I'm pretty sure that anti-virus is more important. In
> fact I know it is.

The average user now encounters variants of spyware probably more then
viruses....

You should read through all the improvements to
> AVG Free 8.0. According to the manufacturer, it's a lot better than
> the old AVG Free 7.5.

Well duh, the 'new' one is always better according to the manufacturer.

> And my computer is running so much faster and
> smoother since I uninstalled S&D and SpywareBlaster, I can't imagine
> why anyone would opt out of the AVG freeware upgrade?

Because, quite frankly it is awful, it is slow, it is unresponsive, it
insists on scanning on a daily basis, and takes five hours to do the scan.
While the scan engine is running it sucks 100% of resources....

> They say you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
> lol!

Try installing avg 8.0 on an older machine, you will see why. I could quite
confidently take norton 06/07/08 off a win xp machine with 256/512 mb of
memory, and replace it with avg 7.0/7.5 and see a visible and clear
improvement in speed of a system. That is no longer the case.

I will ahve to start using Avira Antivir, i am trying it out now, so far ok,
seems pretty limited though.

Gaz

Dave Seven

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:

>
> I guess it comes down to what the end-user considers to be more important,
> anti-virus, or anti-spyware? I know they're both important, but I'm pretty
> sure that anti-virus is more important. In fact I know it is. You should
> read through all the improvements to AVG Free 8.0. According to the
> manufacturer, it's a lot better than the old AVG Free 7.5. And my computer is
> running so much faster and smoother since I uninstalled S&D and SpywareBlaster,
> I can't imagine why anyone would opt out of the AVG freeware upgrade?
>
> They say you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. lol!
>
> --
> Ckyp

I think you are an AVG employee using an anon remailer. The layered
approach to spyware is the best approach so trusting just AVG for
spyware scans and dumping Spybot and Spywareblaster (two progs I have
been using for years now and trust) is just dumb. I would upgrade to
ver. 8.0 but not if it causes issues for those two other anti-spyware
progs. They should fix the issue and then I will start using it.

Dave Seven

Gaz wrote:

> Try installing avg 8.0 on an older machine, you will see why. I could quite
> confidently take norton 06/07/08 off a win xp machine with 256/512 mb of
> memory, and replace it with avg 7.0/7.5 and see a visible and clear
> improvement in speed of a system. That is no longer the case.
>
> I will ahve to start using Avira Antivir, i am trying it out now, so far ok,
> seems pretty limited though.
>
> Gaz

I never run any AV software with a resident shield for this reason. If
they don't have an option to disable the resident shield I don't use it.
I would never trust any AV software to heal an infected machine either.
All they are good for is reporting if you have a virus or not. If it
reports positive then you wipe the drive and re-install the OS. Or
preferably just restore an image file using a prog like Acronis True
Image. I scan all files I download and now and again do a system scan.
Never been infected yet but that is because I know how to set up my PC
with some pre-emptive protection. I don't need a resident AV prog
slowing my web browsing down to the speed of a 486 when I pay big bucks
for a fast PC.

Dave Seven

Gaz wrote:

> 7.5 wont carry on for long though...........
>
> Gaz
>
>
Well, if ver. 8.0 doesn't allow me to tailor what modules it loads into
memory then I will switch to something else like Avast. Avast is
reported to have better detection of virus than AVG anyway. Thing is I
like AVG 7.5 because it is very customizable and light on resources and
that is why I choose to use it. I've read NOD32 is the best for not
using much in the way of resources and is good at detection but you have
to pay for it. I only use AVG because it is free and I am a cheap
bastage.

Dave Seven

Gaz wrote:

> Maybe it uses the Norton Internet Security method, by making your computer
> using experieince so slow and pointless as to stop you using the computer as
> much.
>
> Gaz
>
>

Yea, but nothing can be as bad as Norton. Those mofos don't even provide
a proper uninstaller with the program and you have to go download a
utility from their website if you want your PC Norton free once again.

I have a few PCs here so should probably install AVG 8.0 one one of them
just to see how customizable it is and what the differences are.

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer

On Wed, 07 May 2008, Dave Seven <notfor@email.invalid> wrote:
>Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:
>
>>
>> I guess it comes down to what the end-user considers to be more important,
>> anti-virus, or anti-spyware? I know they're both important, but I'm pretty
>> sure that anti-virus is more important. In fact I know it is. You should
>> read through all the improvements to AVG Free 8.0. According to the
>> manufacturer, it's a lot better than the old AVG Free 7.5. And my computer
>> is
>> running so much faster and smoother since I uninstalled S&D and
>> SpywareBlaster,
>> I can't imagine why anyone would opt out of the AVG freeware upgrade?
>>
>> They say you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. lol!
>
>I think you are an AVG employee using an anon remailer. The layered
>approach to spyware is the best approach so trusting just AVG for
>spyware scans and dumping Spybot and Spywareblaster (two progs I have
>been using for years now and trust) is just dumb. I would upgrade to
>ver. 8.0 but not if it causes issues for those two other anti-spyware
>progs. They should fix the issue and then I will start using it.

Believe what you want. Everybody knows that a good freeware anti-virus
program is definitely more important than a good freeware anti-spyware program.
The new AVG Free 8.0 contains both. Logic dictates that the anti-virus program
must take precedent over the incompatible S&D and SpywareBlaster, and the fact
that AVG Free 8.0 now includes their anti-spyware component settles the
argument, at least for me it does. And besides, my computer is running much
faster and smoother than it did with S&D, "tea timer" and all that bogging it
down. I'll never go back to it.

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Ckyp