Gaz

Dave Seven wrote:
> Gaz wrote:
>
>> Try installing avg 8.0 on an older machine, you will see why. I
>> could quite confidently take norton 06/07/08 off a win xp machine
>> with 256/512 mb of memory, and replace it with avg 7.0/7.5 and see a
>> visible and clear improvement in speed of a system. That is no
>> longer the case. I will ahve to start using Avira Antivir, i am trying it
>> out now, so
>> far ok, seems pretty limited though.
>>
>> Gaz
>
> I never run any AV software with a resident shield for this reason. If
> they don't have an option to disable the resident shield I don't use
> it. I would never trust any AV software to heal an infected machine
> either. All they are good for is reporting if you have a virus or
> not. If it reports positive then you wipe the drive and re-install the OS.
> Or preferably just restore an image file using a prog like
> Acronis True Image. I scan all files I download and now and again do
> a system scan. Never been infected yet but that is because I know how
> to set up my PC with some pre-emptive protection. I don't need a
> resident AV prog slowing my web browsing down to the speed of a 486
> when I pay big bucks for a fast PC.

However, most people do need protection......

Gaz

Gaz

Dave Seven wrote:
> Gaz wrote:
>
>> Maybe it uses the Norton Internet Security method, by making your
>> computer using experieince so slow and pointless as to stop you
>> using the computer as much.
>>
>> Gaz
>>
>>
>
> Yea, but nothing can be as bad as Norton. Those mofos don't even
> provide a proper uninstaller with the program and you have to go
> download a utility from their website if you want your PC Norton free
> once again.
> I have a few PCs here so should probably install AVG 8.0 one one of
> them just to see how customizable it is and what the differences are.

Came across the AVG 8.0 Security suite, which seems to include anti virus,
anti spyware, spam checker, firewall, rootkit, coffee maker, kitchen sink
etc.

Customer insisted they wanted it installed, system 2.6 celeron, 512mb of
memory, very lean startup (courtesy of hijackthis), all temp files cleaned
(courtesy of crapcleaner), windows animations turned off, just the absolute
necessity, the machine was as fast as it could realistically be, even with
aol, the chosen provider/

Installed AVG 8.0 security suite, and it went from nice and zippy, to wading
through treacle. The startup wasnt to bad, maybe an extra 20 seconds or so,
internet explorer was a bit slower, but managable, however the aol browser
was awful, it went from ok to dial up style speed. Not jsut the loading of
the software, but the actual internet speed reduced, web browsing was like a
14.4k modem. IE7 seemed ok, if just a bit slower.

I am so disapointed in a programme i have used and raved about for half a
decade.

Gaz

Dave Seven

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:

> Believe what you want. Everybody knows that a good freeware anti-virus
> program is definitely more important than a good freeware anti-spyware program.
> The new AVG Free 8.0 contains both. Logic dictates that the anti-virus program
> must take precedent over the incompatible S&D and SpywareBlaster, and the fact
> that AVG Free 8.0 now includes their anti-spyware component settles the
> argument, at least for me it does. And besides, my computer is running much
> faster and smoother than it did with S&D, "tea timer" and all that bogging it
> down. I'll never go back to it.
>
> --
> Ckyp

I never use TeaTimer, that is optional. In Vista Defender is always
running so don't want 3rd party crap running too. I never said don't use
AV software. I said that I don't want ver 8.0 if it screws up my other
software. I still have AV protection with ver 7.5. I don't think ver 8.0
is going to catch anymore virii than ver. 7.5 will so there is no
benefit to using ver. 8.0 for me.

Dave Seven

Gaz wrote:

> I am so disapointed in a programme i have used and raved about for half a
> decade.
>
> Gaz
>
>

It happens. Look at Adaware. The version prior to 2007 version was great
then they force us to use the latest and it is crap.

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer

On Thu, 08 May 2008, Dave Seven <notfor@email.invalid> wrote:
>Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:
>
>> Believe what you want. Everybody knows that a good freeware anti-virus
>> program is definitely more important than a good freeware anti-spyware
>> program.
>> The new AVG Free 8.0 contains both. Logic dictates that the anti-virus
>> program
>> must take precedent over the incompatible S&D and SpywareBlaster, and the
>> fact
>> that AVG Free 8.0 now includes their anti-spyware component settles the
>> argument, at least for me it does. And besides, my computer is running much
>> faster and smoother than it did with S&D, "tea timer" and all that bogging it
>> down. I'll never go back to it.
>>
>
>I never use TeaTimer, that is optional. In Vista Defender is always
>running so don't want 3rd party crap running too. I never said don't use
>AV software. I said that I don't want ver 8.0 if it screws up my other
>software. I still have AV protection with ver 7.5. I don't think ver 8.0
>is going to catch anymore virii than ver. 7.5 will so there is no
>benefit to using ver. 8.0 for me.

Another really good freeware program is "Nfilter" proxy. I use it to filter
out spammers, googlegroups abusers, and your basic "ignore everything that has
already been said in the thread, and argue only for the sake of stupidity"
geniuses. As in this case, using regular expressions, I've added the following
lines, since most people in the "alt.privacy" hierarchy are intelligent enough
to use remailers:

alt.privacy* drop user-agent:*Thunderbird*
alt.privacy* drop x-complaints-to:abuse@shaw.ca

You get the last word, "dave." lol!

--
Ckyp

Dave Seven

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:

> You get the last word, "dave." lol!
>
> --
> Ckyp

Only people who use/need remailers are wanker trolls and people up to no
good. In your case you are most definitely in the wanker troll category.

Gaz

"Dave Seven" <notfor@email.invalid> wrote in message
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> Gaz wrote:
>
>> I am so disapointed in a programme i have used and raved about for half a
>> decade.
>>
>> Gaz
>
> It happens. Look at Adaware. The version prior to 2007 version was great
> then they force us to use the latest and it is crap.

Superantispyware combined with spywareblaster, I feel is an excellent
combination.

Gaz

TacAN

"Gaz" <gazter@msn.com> wrote in message
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> Version 8 by the way is awful, it has a much greater footprint then
> avg7.5, the scanning engine is much much slower, it is sluggish and adds
> considerable time to boot up. I would no longer recommend AVG for an older
> machine (less then 1gb and slower then dual core).
>
> Gaz
>

What peeves me about the new release .....

I did a full scan, both at high and slow speeds and it detected *over*
10,000 (yes ten thousand) references to CoolWebSearch plus assorted other
nasties. Yet reported *none* of them being critical.
All of these were references in the registry.

My up to date version of SpyBot Search and Destroy plus a couple of other
scanners that I use reported nothing!!!

Any thoughts on what is going on???

Graham

TacAN

"CGB" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> Dave and Gaz, I think I agree with you both.
>
> I ran a full scan with AVG version 8 after already having negative scans
> from Spybot, Adaware, A-squared, and using Spyware Blaster. CCleaner had
> shown no registry issues (I know it's not an antispyware thing but just
> threw this info in fwiw.) AVG version 8 found "no infections" and "no
> spyware," but it gave 214 warnings!!! I'm pretty sure my machine is
> clean and I opted to not let it clean out the warnings, all of which would
> have required it to edit the registry!
>
> Interesting. I don't know what to make of the "warnings" which say all
> those things are "potentially dangerous."
>
> Carl

Same here but it detected over 10,000 "warnings" on my pc.
Doing a quick calculation - if I deleted all of these warnings (registry
items) the sum total of items deleted would exceed the size of the registry.

What gives??

Graham

Gaz

"TacAN" <zzz@xxx.xxx> wrote in message
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>
> "Gaz" <gazter@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:688cmuF2o69asU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Version 8 by the way is awful, it has a much greater footprint then
>> avg7.5, the scanning engine is much much slower, it is sluggish and adds
>> considerable time to boot up. I would no longer recommend AVG for an
>> older machine (less then 1gb and slower then dual core).
>>
>> Gaz
>>
>
> What peeves me about the new release .....
>
> I did a full scan, both at high and slow speeds and it detected *over*
> 10,000 (yes ten thousand) references to CoolWebSearch plus assorted other
> nasties. Yet reported *none* of them being critical.
> All of these were references in the registry.
>
> My up to date version of SpyBot Search and Destroy plus a couple of other
> scanners that I use reported nothing!!!
>
> Any thoughts on what is going on???
>
> Graham

False positive caused by spyware blaster immunisation entries?

Gaz