Pete

Generally, I like the program.
However, when it runs at startup, I have to authorize it TWICE to load it.
Is there a solution? Or is this just a characteristic?
Tks.

Han

"Pete" <Pete@nospam.com> wrote in
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> Generally, I like the program.
> However, when it runs at startup, I have to authorize it TWICE to load
> it. Is there a solution? Or is this just a characteristic?
> Tks.
>
I turned off User account control. See the relevant item in PC Magazine's
Vista tips:
<http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2282472,00.asp>

• Turn off annoying prompts
Vista added the A Program Needs Your Permission to Continue prompt to help
prevent you from inadvertently installing malware or making unauthorized
changes to your computer. It's annoying to see that dialog box constantly
pop up. If you're computer savvy, you can turn it off by deactivating User
Account Control in the User Accounts Control Panel.

Sorry, I don't know by heart the exact steps.
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Han
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pcbutts1 [MS MVP]

I believe that has been fixed in their latest version. Do an update.


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"Pete" <Pete@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Generally, I like the program. However, when it runs at startup, I have to
> authorize it TWICE to load it. Is there a solution? Or is this just a
> characteristic? Tks.

Gumby

Han <nobody@nospam.not> wrote in
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> I turned off User account control. See the relevant item in PC
> Magazine's Vista tips:

Do you know that UAC can stop rootkits from installing?

Han

Gumby <gumby@is.cool> wrote in news:BBr_j.295372$pM4.93405@pd7urf1no:

> Han <nobody@nospam.not> wrote in
> news:Xns9AA9B2BF0EF1Bikkezelf@130.81.64.196:
>
>> I turned off User account control. See the relevant item in PC
>> Magazine's Vista tips:
>
> Do you know that UAC can stop rootkits from installing?

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I always turn off my computer before a rootkit wants to install itself.
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That was meant to be funny.
There are threats galore around. You have to choose your fights.
Practice safe hex, and keep your AV and antimalware up-to-date. UAC was
too much of a bother to deal with, and made clicking yes automatic. In
such cases, even UAC does nothing to protect you.

Just my opinion.
I wuld revise if UAC was more intelligent. There was a way to make it
(supposedly) more intelligent, published in the latest PCWorld (page 122,
June 2008 issue), but my Vista Home Basic does not have a gpedit.msc, so
I can't do what it says in PCWorld.

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Han
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Gumby

Han <nobody@nospam.not> wrote in
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>In such cases, even UAC does nothing to protect you.

Wrong.

http://www.hardocp.com/news.html?new...VzaWFzdCwsLDE=

Looks like Vista’s much-maligned User Access Control or UAC has one benefit
for a savvy user: it can detect rootkits before they install. AV-Test.org
conducted a test of popular antivirus programs to see how well they
detected rootkits and the tester had to turn off UAC on the Vista test
systems because it detected every rootkit used in the test.

David H. Lipman

From: "Gumby" <gumby@is.cool>

| Han <nobody@nospam.not> wrote in
| news:Xns9AAA4B3444533ikkezelf@130.81.64.196:
|
>> In such cases, even UAC does nothing to protect you.
|
| Wrong.
|
| http://www.hardocp.com/news.html?new...VzaWFzdCwsLDE=
|
| Looks like Vista’s much-maligned User Access Control or UAC has one benefit
| for a savvy user: it can detect rootkits before they install. AV-Test.org
| conducted a test of popular antivirus programs to see how well they
| detected rootkits and the tester had to turn off UAC on the Vista test
| systems because it detected every rootkit used in the test.

I'd like to see if UAC worked under the condition of a buffer overflow exploitation which
introduces privilege elevation.

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http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

Gaz

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:_l__j.11543$tF1.3314@trnddc01...
> From: "Gumby" <gumby@is.cool>

> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

Totally off topic, i had a very nasty experience with multi-av the other
day, i was in the process of updating the multiple ant viruses using the
included instructions, while updating kaspersky the computer froze,
requiring a hard reset, on restart my profile was all screwed up, various
aspects of the profile had simple being deleted included oe identities, ie6
favourites, and all profile shortcuts. Various programmes also no longer
worked (office 2003), .....

Ever had such an encounter? It wasnt caused by infection, and the av had not
got to stage of scanning, just updating....

Gaz

David H. Lipman

From: "Gaz" <gazter@msn.com>

|
| Totally off topic, i had a very nasty experience with multi-av the other
| day, i was in the process of updating the multiple ant viruses using the
| included instructions, while updating kaspersky the computer froze,
| requiring a hard reset, on restart my profile was all screwed up, various
| aspects of the profile had simple being deleted included oe identities, ie6
| favourites, and all profile shortcuts. Various programmes also no longer
| worked (office 2003), .....
|
| Ever had such an encounter? It wasnt caused by infection, and the av had not
| got to stage of scanning, just updating....
|
| Gaz
|

Sounds like a pure coincidence.
Updating does nothing but use WGET.EXE to perform a FTP Get from the Kaspersky server.
There is nothing in that process to cause the PC to freeze up. There is something else
going on like you have a hardware error and it just happened during that process. Your
profile was corrupted becauise when your crash occured data was cahched in RAM dealing with
teh User Registry and the cache wasn't flused to disk and the User Registry was corrupted
and thus you could not load your profile but a TEMP or other profile.

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http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
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Kerry Brown

"Gumby" <gumby@is.cool> wrote in message
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> Han <nobody@nospam.not> wrote in
> news:Xns9AAA4B3444533ikkezelf@130.81.64.196:
>
>>In such cases, even UAC does nothing to protect you.
>
> Wrong.
>
> http://www.hardocp.com/news.html?new...VzaWFzdCwsLDE=
>
> Looks like Vista’s much-maligned User Access Control or UAC has one
> benefit
> for a savvy user: it can detect rootkits before they install. AV-Test.org
> conducted a test of popular antivirus programs to see how well they
> detected rootkits and the tester had to turn off UAC on the Vista test
> systems because it detected every rootkit used in the test.


UAC does not stop rootkits. Running as a standard user stops some rootkit
installers. UAC allows older applications not designed to run as a standard
user to run as a standard user. It's a subtle point but an important one.
UAC didn't detect the rootkits. It detected that a process was trying to
change a protected system area. Unprotect the system area and UAC would have
happily allowed the process to do whatever it wanted. UAC is not really a
security feature. It is a method to allow unsecure programs to run in a more
secure environment than they expect.

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Kerry Brown