Han

Verizon in its inestimably excellent way has shot itself in the foot again.
IMNSHO one of the benefits was the relatively slow but otherwise excellent
newsgroup service. Now they have decided to drop all alt.* newsgroups and
limit themnselves to only the big 8 plus 0.verizon.*

comp.*
humanities.*
misc.*
news.*
rec.*
sci.*
soc.*
talk.*

This is going to impact me on several newsgroups, and I'll have to find a
way around it, especially for alt.binaries.woodworking
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

R. C. White

Hi, Han.

Did you see the thread just a couple of entries before yours? Check out
"TWC your ISP?", started by Pete the Pilot on 6/11/08.

So we now have Time Warner and Verizon pulling the plug on
alt.comp.software.financial.quicken - and many other excellent newsgroups.
Who's next?

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Currently running Quicken 2008 Deluxe in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

"Han" <nobody@nospam.not> wrote in message
news:Xns9ABC43F352FD0ikkezelf@130.81.64.196...
> Verizon in its inestimably excellent way has shot itself in the foot
> again.
> IMNSHO one of the benefits was the relatively slow but otherwise excellent
> newsgroup service. Now they have decided to drop all alt.* newsgroups and
> limit themnselves to only the big 8 plus 0.verizon.*
>
> comp.*
> humanities.*
> misc.*
> news.*
> rec.*
> sci.*
> soc.*
> talk.*
>
> This is going to impact me on several newsgroups, and I'll have to find a
> way around it, especially for alt.binaries.woodworking
> --
> Best regards
> Han

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer

On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Leythos <void@nowhere.lan> wrote:
>In article <Xns9ABC43F352FD0ikkezelf@130.81.64.196>, nobody@nospam.not
>says...
>> Verizon in its inestimably excellent way has shot itself in the foot again.
>> IMNSHO one of the benefits was the relatively slow but otherwise excellent
>> newsgroup service. Now they have decided to drop all alt.* newsgroups and
>> limit themnselves to only the big 8 plus 0.verizon.*
>>
>> comp.*
>> humanities.*
>> misc.*
>> news.*
>> rec.*
>> sci.*
>> soc.*
>> talk.*
>>
>> This is going to impact me on several newsgroups, and I'll have to find a
>> way around it, especially for alt.binaries.woodworking
>
>I use Usenet.com news service, their cheapest package as I don't do
>binaries, and while their standard servers place a little spam at the
>bottom of every post, you can email them for a server name to use that
>doesn't. It has alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking group as well as many
>other "woodworking" groups.
>
Unless you're after usenet binaries, or you don't mind paying for usenet
access, many ISP's have already dropped their usenet servers. Even so, usenet
activity has been continually rising year after year. And with the rise in
usenet activity, the rise in abuses like cracked software, illegal porno,
sporge, spam, and trolls have increased along with it. But so has the
sophistication of the filtering techniques. I like the old police "radar gun"
analogy that says "for every new radar gun, there's a new radar detector."

Anybody who wants free or paid usenet access, independent of their ISP, can
certainly find it. For example, here's a free one news.motzarella.org, or try
searching newzbot.com. If all else fails, you can use the cumbersome Google
Groups. Better yet, subscribe to frequently updated group feeds of your
choice. Anyone looking for "alt.privacy.spyware" articles can find them here:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.p...cs.xml?num=100
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy.spyware?lnk=

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Han

"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in
news:WeWdnenEy6JZ78_VnZ2dnUVZ_qHinZ2d@posted.grand ecom:

> Hi, Han.
>
> Did you see the thread just a couple of entries before yours? Check
> out "TWC your ISP?", started by Pete the Pilot on 6/11/08.
>
> So we now have Time Warner and Verizon pulling the plug on
> alt.comp.software.financial.quicken - and many other excellent
> newsgroups. Who's next?
>
> RC

Hi RC
There are many newsservers, free and low cost. There is a big discussion
of this Verizon decision in the private (for Verizon customers only)
0.verizon.* hierarchy.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Dustin Cook

Han <nobody@nospam.not> wrote in
news:Xns9ABC43F352FD0ikkezelf@130.81.64.196:

> Verizon in its inestimably excellent way has shot itself in the foot
> again. IMNSHO one of the benefits was the relatively slow but
> otherwise excellent newsgroup service. Now they have decided to drop
> all alt.* newsgroups and limit themnselves to only the big 8 plus
> 0.verizon.*
>
> comp.*
> humanities.*
> misc.*
> news.*
> rec.*
> sci.*
> soc.*
> talk.*
>
> This is going to impact me on several newsgroups, and I'll have to
> find a way around it, especially for alt.binaries.woodworking

You purchase a seperate usenet account from a 3rdparty.


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Regards,
Dustin Cook - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
BugHunter v2.2e AntiMalware Removal Utility
For Windows users, I highly recommend:
http://www.malwarebytes.org - MalwareBytes AntiMalware

David H. Lipman

From: "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com>


|
| You purchase a seperate usenet account from a 3rdparty.
|

Tell me about Dustin. You'll soon see me on a new NSP :-(


--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

Dustin Cook

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in news:hc%4k.79427
$MF3.17168@trnddc06:

> From: "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com>
>
>
>|
>| You purchase a seperate usenet account from a 3rdparty.
>|
>
> Tell me about Dustin. You'll soon see me on a new NSP :-(
>
>




--
Regards,
Dustin Cook - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
BugHunter v2.2e AntiMalware Removal Utility
For Windows users, I highly recommend:
http://www.malwarebytes.org - MalwareBytes AntiMalware

Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

David H. Lipman wrote:
> From: "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com>
>
>
>>
>> You purchase a seperate usenet account from a 3rdparty.
>>
>
> Tell me about Dustin. You'll soon see me on a new NSP :-(

Are you going to use a free one or a paid one, Dave? The best
non-commercial server I know is news.individual.net, and it costs less
than USD$15/year. Most of the truly free servers don't have great
retention, and they miss a lot of posts.

--
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will
scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will
refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something
which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he
will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is
explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell

Han

"Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries" <nimue@databasix.com> wrote in news:g33077$fs9$2
@blackhelicopter.databasix.com:

> David H. Lipman wrote:
>> From: "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> You purchase a seperate usenet account from a 3rdparty.
>>>
>>
>> Tell me about Dustin. You'll soon see me on a new NSP :-(
>
> Are you going to use a free one or a paid one, Dave? The best
> non-commercial server I know is news.individual.net, and it costs less
> than USD$15/year. Most of the truly free servers don't have great
> retention, and they miss a lot of posts.
>
Does this server carry binaries?


--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

David H. Lipman

From: "Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries" <nimue@databasix.com>

| David H. Lipman wrote:
>> From: "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com>
>>
>>> You purchase a seperate usenet account from a 3rdparty.
>>>
>> Tell me about Dustin. You'll soon see me on a new NSP :-(
|
| Are you going to use a free one or a paid one, Dave? The best
| non-commercial server I know is news.individual.net, and it costs less
| than USD$15/year. Most of the truly free servers don't have great
| retention, and they miss a lot of posts.
|

My requirements are thus...

I don't mind paying a modest yearly fee. Here's what I am looking for...

1. Binaries. I won't be downloading that much per month. Definitely less than
200MB/month

2. Allows obfuscating email address as I do here.

3. Doesn't too aggressively block spam. I need to see the BS to find malware and
malicious activity, etc.

4. Does not append a NSP spam signature to every post.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp