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Unread 16-02-2010, 04:52 PM   #1
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This is a mess. My friend needs help.

Question: HOW DO WE PROVE EX GIRLFRIEND SPOOFED CALLER ID IN COURT?

My friend's son and his girlfriend broke up. She called the local police and said that she is a victim of domestic violence. She's not, and she actually attacked him. But she's spoiled and a liar. Court believed her, so a restraining order was issued against my friend's young adult son.

Then, she claims that he contacted her via text message, IM and cell calls. To prove this, she shows police her cell phone which show he called on the caller ID. But, she is tech savvy. We think she bought a spoof card and used it to spoof the caller ID to herself.

My friend's cell records show her son made NO CALLS to the ex girlfriend, and NO text messages. I don't think you can prove IM, as they are possibly untraceable.

How can we prove that this woman spoofed the caller ID?

This young man is now sitting in jail for a month while awaiting the next stage of the hearing and he faces violation of the restraining order charges. He has a promising future, but she is out to ruin him. Her parents have hired a lawyer and they are rich and powerful in the corporate world. VERY rich.

We need to prove that she spoofed the caller ID. She must have called her own cell phone with her new boyfriend's cell phone or her landline. But, HOW do we prove it?
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Re: Need to prove caller ID spoofing case in court

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This is a mess. My friend needs help.

Question: HOW DO WE PROVE EX GIRLFRIEND SPOOFED CALLER ID IN COURT?

My friend's son and his girlfriend broke up. She called the local police and said that she is a victim of domestic violence. She's not, and she actually attacked him. But she's spoiled and a liar. Court believed her, so a restraining order was issued against my friend's young adult son.

Then, she claims that he contacted her via text message, IM and cell calls. To prove this, she shows police her cell phone which show he called on the caller ID. But, she is tech savvy. We think she bought a spoof card and used it to spoof the caller ID to herself.

My friend's cell records show her son made NO CALLS to the ex girlfriend, and NO text messages. I don't think you can prove IM, as they are possibly untraceable.

How can we prove that this woman spoofed the caller ID?

This young man is now sitting in jail for a month while awaiting the next stage of the hearing and he faces violation of the restraining order charges. He has a promising future, but she is out to ruin him. Her parents have hired a lawyer and they are rich and powerful in the corporate world. VERY rich.

We need to prove that she spoofed the caller ID. She must have called her own cell phone with her new boyfriend's cell phone or her landline. But, HOW do we prove it?
did she contact the boy and spoke or send any msg to the boy's mobile ...
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Re: Need to prove caller ID spoofing case in court

You can request the call / SMS details from your friends' son's phone service carrier and prove that no calls/sms were made to specified number.
Alternatively you can have the boy's girlfriend receive the data from her phone service provider for the called-number details to her mobile, because eventhough the Caller-ID is spoofed phone service carrier will have the "real caller" details on signalling level of the call if they're keeping the information.
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Re: Need to prove caller ID spoofing case in court

Clarification: the girlfriend is the one we suspect called her OWN cell phone using another phone, but spoofing the caller ID to look like the young man made the call.

I guess we'd have to subpoena her calls/SMS to show the call was spoofed? She, obviously, will not willingly give up her cell phone records b/c she knows that this might blow the whistle and prove she was behind the calls. (or possibly her NEW boyfriend did this, but I can guarantee you that they were in on this together).
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Re: Need to prove caller ID spoofing case in court

You can request the exact date-time when she was called from her and get the call/SMS details from your phone company for that exact date-time if no record exists that would prove her wrong.
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Re: Need to prove caller ID spoofing case in court

its very easy ...
just inform to police that she called and through police help you can get her log details of that number...
just move it by police you will be easily able to prove...
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Re: Need to prove caller ID spoofing case in court

TY to all.

I still would like to prove that SHE DID THIS or her new boyfriend.

I think we can easily prove that HE DID NOT do this, but proving she did it (who else would have the motive, though?) might be another thing.

The family is a very powerful and rich family. I wonder if I am just too jaded to believe that justice is fair. I think the lawyer they hired for their daughter will try to block a subpoena and fight it or will try to persuade the local police to not bother to investigate it.

I am sorry that I don't understand enough about how spoofing works (i.e., IS it discoverable by the police? I hope so) to understand if the phone bill SHE gets will contain the spoofed number (meaning HIS real cell phone number) or the original spoofer's (meaning possibly the NEW boyfriend's number or a landline which she used to spoof the call).

Thank you all for being so patient with me. This is so scary for my friend's son. He just graduated college and was in a very lucrative training program which would have resulted in a masters' degree. Now, he's in jail.
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Re: Need to prove caller ID spoofing case in court

The phone bill will contain the caller-id seen on the phone but phone company will have the real information on signalling level (if they keep the data )
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Re: Need to prove caller ID spoofing case in court

Ah, good information. Thank you all.

I can give this to my friend and hopefully this ordeal for her nice son will be over soon.
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Re: Need to prove caller ID spoofing case in court

I just found out that the ex girlfriend has Verizon as her cell/text service. Can anyone tell me about their signaling data and if they keep the records?

The attorney told my friend today that he doesn't understand "all that tech stuff" which makes me very nervous and I don't perceive as being good.

No doubt, he will not want to investigate something he doesn't understand.

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