Changing the Caller ID of a BT line

JohnA

Can anyone advise me if it's possible to have the outgoing caller ID of a BT
landline modified so that it shows another number. It's for a number that a
customer of mine uses with VOIP, but sometimes they may need to use a
landline instead, but they need to give the same nunver so that incoming
calls get router correctly.

If it were the other way around then it's easy as VOIP caller ID can be set
to a BT landline provided you can prove you own it of course!

(Remove the removetext if replying direct)

John A

Jono

After serious thinking JohnA wrote :
> Can anyone advise me if it's possible to have the outgoing caller ID of a BT
> landline modified so that it shows another number. It's for a number that a
> customer of mine uses with VOIP, but sometimes they may need to use a
> landline instead, but they need to give the same nunver so that incoming
> calls get router correctly.
>
> If it were the other way around then it's easy as VOIP caller ID can be set
> to a BT landline provided you can prove you own it of course!
>
> (Remove the removetext if replying direct)
>
> John A

It is a service offered by BT called Presentation Number, so yes it's
possible.

Not sure if BT Retail offer it exclusively on business lines or not,
though.

Jono

JohnA explained on 02/05/2007 :
> Can anyone advise me if it's possible to have the outgoing caller ID of a BT
> landline modified so that it shows another number. It's for a number that a
> customer of mine uses with VOIP, but sometimes they may need to use a
> landline instead, but they need to give the same nunver so that incoming
> calls get router correctly.
>
> If it were the other way around then it's easy as VOIP caller ID can be set
> to a BT landline provided you can prove you own it of course!
>
> (Remove the removetext if replying direct)
>
> John A

<http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/btbusinessProducts/displayProduct.do?productId=BTB-7141&s_cid=btb_FURL_business/presentationnumber>

Pricing
£60 connection charge
Quarterly rental £7.70 - no minimum term

I've often wondered if this would circumvent Sky's insistence of having
multi-room boxes connected to the same telephone line. The £60 set up
fee has always put me off an experiment.

Harry Broomhall

On Wed, 02 May 2007 16:18:47 +0100, Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
wrote:

><http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/btbusinessProducts/displayProduct.do?productId=BTB-7141&s_cid=btb_FURL_business/presentationnumber>
>
>Pricing
>£60 connection charge
>Quarterly rental £7.70 - no minimum term
>
>I've often wondered if this would circumvent Sky's insistence of having
>multi-room boxes connected to the same telephone line. The £60 set up
>fee has always put me off an experiment.
>

I would suspect not. Presentation number is not the same as a
'network' or 'engineering' number. And it is these that I suspect
that Sky looks at.

Regards,
Harry.


----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups
----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----

Jono

Harry Broomhall has brought this to us :
> On Wed, 02 May 2007 16:18:47 +0100, Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> <http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/btbusinessProducts/displayProduct.do?productId=BTB-7141&s_cid=btb_FURL_business/presentationnumber>
>>
>> Pricing
>> £60 connection charge
>> Quarterly rental £7.70 - no minimum term
>>
>> I've often wondered if this would circumvent Sky's insistence of having
>> multi-room boxes connected to the same telephone line. The £60 set up
>> fee has always put me off an experiment.
>>
>
> I would suspect not. Presentation number is not the same as a
> 'network' or 'engineering' number. And it is these that I suspect
> that Sky looks at.

Hence me being unwilling to shell out £60 +VAT to experiment.

That said, Sky should have no sight whatsoever of the 'engineering'
number.

alexd

Jono wrote:

> Harry Broomhall has brought this to us :

>> I would suspect not. Presentation number is not the same as a
>> 'network' or 'engineering' number. And it is these that I suspect
>> that Sky looks at.
>
> Hence me being unwilling to shell out £60 +VAT to experiment.
>
> That said, Sky should have no sight whatsoever of the 'engineering'
> number.

Would that still apply if one had an LLU'd line from Sky? Would they be
obliged to put up Chinese walls to stop information being shared between
departments?

--
<http://ale.cx/> (AIM:troffasky) (UnSoEsNpEaTm@ale.cx)
17:14:13 up 4 days, 19:13, 2 users, load average: 0.41, 0.40, 0.29
Yes. I'm just guessing.

Brian McIlwrath

alexd <troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote:

: Would that still apply if one had an LLU'd line from Sky? Would they be
: obliged to put up Chinese walls to stop information being shared between
: departments?

Yes - telcos are supposed to do this. However Sky ONLY (at present) LLU the
DSL side of a line - the POTS side is left with BT.

However I wouuld expect that BT will have rules as to what they will
accept as a valid presentation number for any line!

Jono

Brian McIlwrath formulated the question :
> alexd <troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Would that still apply if one had an LLU'd line from Sky? Would they be
>> obliged to put up Chinese walls to stop information being shared between
>> departments?
>
> Yes - telcos are supposed to do this. However Sky ONLY (at present) LLU the
> DSL side of a line - the POTS side is left with BT.

Correct

> However I wouuld expect that BT will have rules as to what they will
> accept as a valid presentation number for any line!

Again, correct - you have to prove you own the number.

David Taylor

On 2007-05-02, Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote:
> JohnA explained on 02/05/2007 :
>> Can anyone advise me if it's possible to have the outgoing caller ID of a BT
>> landline modified so that it shows another number. It's for a number that a
>> customer of mine uses with VOIP, but sometimes they may need to use a
>> landline instead, but they need to give the same nunver so that incoming
>> calls get router correctly.
>>
>> If it were the other way around then it's easy as VOIP caller ID can be set
>> to a BT landline provided you can prove you own it of course!
>>
>> (Remove the removetext if replying direct)
>>
>> John A
>
><http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/btbusinessProducts/displayProduct.do?productId=BTB-7141&s_cid=btb_FURL_business/presentationnumber>
>
> Pricing
> £60 connection charge
> Quarterly rental £7.70 - no minimum term
>
> I've often wondered if this would circumvent Sky's insistence of having
> multi-room boxes connected to the same telephone line. The £60 set up
> fee has always put me off an experiment.

A cheaper experiment would be to try using VoIP to do the same.

--
David Taylor

Jono

David Taylor wrote:
> On 2007-05-02, Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote:
>> JohnA explained on 02/05/2007 :
>>> Can anyone advise me if it's possible to have the outgoing caller ID of a BT
>>> landline modified so that it shows another number. It's for a number that a
>>> customer of mine uses with VOIP, but sometimes they may need to use a
>>> landline instead, but they need to give the same nunver so that incoming
>>> calls get router correctly.
>>>
>>> If it were the other way around then it's easy as VOIP caller ID can be set
>>> to a BT landline provided you can prove you own it of course!
>>>
>>> (Remove the removetext if replying direct)
>>>
>>> John A
>> <http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/btbusinessProducts/displayProduct.do?productId=BTB-7141&s_cid=btb_FURL_business/presentationnumber>
>>
>> Pricing
>> £60 connection charge
>> Quarterly rental £7.70 - no minimum term
>>
>> I've often wondered if this would circumvent Sky's insistence of having
>> multi-room boxes connected to the same telephone line. The £60 set up
>> fee has always put me off an experiment.
>
> A cheaper experiment would be to try using VoIP to do the same.
>

Not many successes there, either - the modems within the Sky boxes
refuse to use a baud rate that works over VoIP.