Caller ID, UK > EU but not returned.

Mike Myers

<Darius.Jedberg@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191995920.121955.171870@19g2000hsx.googlegro ups.com...
> Gibraltar is governed by the democratically elected Government of
> Gibraltar, in Gibraltar. Since Gibraltar is British it could be said
> to be British Governed - but it has the potential to be very
> misleading.

You seem quite 'touchy' about the subject, why doesn't Gibraltar just join
Spain instead, are they not the rightfull owner of Gibraltar? ;o)

Mike

Rev Adrian Kennard

Mike Myers wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have tried doing a quick google search on this but its not really brigning
> up much, or bringing up very old links.
>
> Can someone explain to me why when I call friends in EU such as Germany,
> Poland etc they quite clearly get my Caller ID info displayed yet when they
> call me I get the lovely 'International' text up on my landline which makes
> it hard to tell if its a legitimate friend calling, or some random
> spam/competition/survey/junk.
>
> Why is it I cannot see the number of someone who dials internationally on my
> landline?

I have received international caller ID on several occasions. It is not
common, but does happen. It is a question of whether the telco trusts
the calling telco or not.

--
Adrian Kennard, on his Mac...
Andrews & Arnold Ltd. Communications spe******ts. www.aaisp.net.uk
New UK Wide 03 phone numbers available now.

Darius.Jedberg@gmail.com

On Oct 10, 10:09 am, Andy Burns <usenet.july2...@adslpipe.co.uk>
wrote:
> On 10/10/2007 06:58, Darius.Jedb...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Firstly, GibTel hasn't existed for quite some time, it merged with
> > GibNynex to form Gibtelecom.
>
> ok
>
> > Secondly,Gibraltaris not a colony.
>
> But I'm surprised it doesn't have a +441xxx dialing code ;-)


Funny you should say that, many people were advocated obtaining a
+44*** alternative (to run in parallel with +350) as a means to get
around the Spanish blocking of +350.

[Gib having been assigned +350 by the ITU ages ago.]

Spain blocked +350 for many years, and made Gib numbers available to
Spanish citizens as if they were 3 sub blocks of the area code for the
neighbouring Spanish region. Number blocks: +34-956-77****,
+34-956-74**** and +350-956-75****. This limited the number of numbers
available locally that could be dialled from Spain.

Though the pressure did easy towards the end, as the separation of
circuits from dialable numbers came into full effect.

The shortage was at its most acute when fax machines ruled the world
and when every line had a dial able number to function (i.e. before
line capacity in small PBXs was separated from number pool.

[There were tests with numbers that could not be recognised in Spain,
but would be anywhere else, however there were routing problems as
foreign telcos often tried to reroute traffic through the Spanish
shaddowing scheme to get better volume rates when combined with all
their traffic to spain.]

However the +44**** shaddowing scheme was resisted by the telecoms
industry mostly due to billing and charge advice reasons.

---

Anyway, Spain finally agreed to recognise +350 in the last year. And
that recognition is up and working now.

As a result number length will be expanded in December this year
(2007). To introduce more structure and allow companies to have direct
dialable desk numbers for each staff member, etc

>From Dec 07, 5 digit numbers will be prefixed with '200':
e.g. +350 41234 will become +350 200-41234

Mobiles are already 8 digit numbers (+350 5*******) and will not
change.

Darius.Jedberg@gmail.com

On Oct 10, 8:38 am, "Mike Myers" <mike.myers@baes> wrote:
> <Darius.Jedb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1191995920.121955.171870@19g2000hsx.googlegro ups.com...
>
> >Gibraltaris governed by the democratically elected Government of
> >Gibraltar, inGibraltar. SinceGibraltaris British it could be said
> > to be British Governed - but it has the potential to be very
> > misleading.
>
> You seem quite 'touchy' about the subject, why doesn'tGibraltarjust join
> Spain instead, are they not the rightfull owner ofGibraltar? ;o)
>
> Mike

I'm not going to rise to your bait, just point out that:

The teritory that is today Spain did not exist at the time Gibraltar
was last 'spanish'.

Why should just 1 border in Europe be redrawn to how it was over 300
years ago just because one country thinks it wants it (against the
wishes of the indigenous population). I'd love to see the look on the
Americans face when the turn up and say they want Florida back.

I say Spain 'thinks' it wants it because Spain has mainly used
Gibraltar as a national rallying cry to try and hold their country
together (where there are significant independence movements for
various regions). This only really began in recent times under
dictator Franco, who was the first to use it for this purpose. Prior
to then, things had been friendly for some time. Sadly following
Francos death, the question of Gibraltar was not put into the 'lets be
modern' pile, but erroneously put into this is something (an idea) we
can keep and don't need to burn.

Anyway, Spains claim would be third at best if decided by period of
time, Gib has been british longer than it was 'spanish' and have been
Moorish longer than anything else in recorded history. But lets not
bring the question of Spains north african enclaves into this.....

Don't want to take this off topic so will stop here. (and i did try
and take my other reply back ontopic - a bit with the 200 prefix.