CKTS - How to direct IP dial the network

News Reader

Hi,


Not sure if any of you have looked at or had any experience, etc. of the
CNET ("The Collectors Net") (a network of users who have VoIP interconnected
old telecomms equipment - old switches, etc.).

It is rather fun and cool (lol), etc.

However, I have only been able to access it via PSTN dial in gateways...
which is a bit pointless and rather defeats the purpose and makes things
unnecessarily long winded; particularly since the whole network is VoIP and
about IP connectivity!

Hence, I am hoping some one might be able to advise or help find the SIP
dialling string format for connecting to network nodes / devices.

I have tried a number of combinations such as ;
; etc., etc. to no avail.

Please please... any help appreciated.


Best wishes,




News Reader


P.s. Copied to uk.telecom as this relates largely as much to classic telecom
equipment as VoIP. Thanks .

News Reader

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Oh and by the way... the website for reference... is:


Thanks again and in advance.

Ivor Jones

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: : Hi,
: :
: :
: : Not sure if any of you have looked at or had any
: : experience, etc. of the CNET ("The Collectors Net") (a
: : network of users who have VoIP interconnected old
: : telecomms equipment - old switches, etc.).
: :
: : It is rather fun and cool (lol), etc.
: :
: : However, I have only been able to access it via PSTN
: : dial in gateways... which is a bit pointless and rather
: : defeats the purpose and makes things unnecessarily long
: : winded; particularly since the whole network is VoIP
: : and about IP connectivity!
: :
: : Hence, I am hoping some one might be able to advise or
: : help find the SIP dialling string format for connecting
: : to network nodes / devices.
: :
: : I have tried a number of combinations such as
: : ; ; etc., etc.
: : to no avail.
: :
: : Please please... any help appreciated.

CNET is effectively a closed network. You have to either be a full part of
it by hosting your own Asterisk box, or if you know someone on it you can
set up an ATA as a host off their system.

Be aware that the primary purpose of CNET is to link together heritage
telephone equipment such as old Strowger exchanges, rather than as an
alternative to commercial VoIP providers.

gives all the info you need.


Ivor

News Reader

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>
> "News Reader" <no@email.invalid> wrote in message
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> : : Hi,
> : :
> : :
> : : Not sure if any of you have looked at or had any
> : : experience, etc. of the CNET ("The Collectors Net") (a
> : : network of users who have VoIP interconnected old
> : : telecomms equipment - old switches, etc.).
> : :
> : : It is rather fun and cool (lol), etc.
> : :
> : : However, I have only been able to access it via PSTN
> : : dial in gateways... which is a bit pointless and rather
> : : defeats the purpose and makes things unnecessarily long
> : : winded; particularly since the whole network is VoIP
> : : and about IP connectivity!
> : :
> : : Hence, I am hoping some one might be able to advise or
> : : help find the SIP dialling string format for connecting
> : : to network nodes / devices.
> : :
> : : I have tried a number of combinations such as
> : : ; ; etc., etc.
> : : to no avail.
> : :
> : : Please please... any help appreciated.
>
> CNET is effectively a closed network. You have to either be a full part of
> it by hosting your own Asterisk box, or if you know someone on it you can
> set up an ATA as a host off their system.
>
> Be aware that the primary purpose of CNET is to link together heritage
> telephone equipment such as old Strowger exchanges, rather than as an
> alternative to commercial VoIP providers.
>
> gives all the info you need.
>
>
> Ivor
>


Hi,


Thanks Ivor. I appreciate the purpose and somewhat the nature of CNET.
Particularly, I recognise that is certainly not an alternative to an ITSP
and represents an enthusiasts network of vintage telcoms equipment
collectors and their equipment.

However, as a lay but interested person, I was hoping to dial around some of
the equipment (more so than the manned extensions), as an enthusiast of old
telecoms kit, etc.

It sounds like their is no direct or central SIP server for dialling of
"member directory" entries (offices and extensions, etc.). And inferring
from what you are saying, one has to either become a member, or garner a
registration account off a members gateway.

Interesting... it seems strange they do not support direct inbound directory
access SIP dialling given that they publicly promote themselves, maintain a
directory, are so outwardly friendly, encouraging and supportive of all
interest and participation. I.e. they frequently encourage ( on their
website ) people to call members and the various bits of equipment, etc.
Furthermore, given they openly provide and list PEST gateways... they
clearly don't mind, rather actively encourage, people to call into, across
and on the CNET.... hence my confusion as to why I can't seem to find or am
potentially perplexed as to why they might or would not permit SIP inbound
access (as the whole point of the exercise is VoIP and internet
interconnection - i.e. avoiding the need for PSTN use and potential cost
thereat, etc.)... I.e. if they encourage use generally and provide PSTN
gateways... then why not VoIP inbound dialling?


Anyhoo... shall keep investigating... and best wishes and many thanks for
your input.


Best wishes,



News Reader

Ivor Jones

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: : Hi,
: :
: :
: : Thanks Ivor. I appreciate the purpose and somewhat the
: : nature of CNET. Particularly, I recognise that is
: : certainly not an alternative to an ITSP and represents
: : an enthusiasts network of vintage telcoms equipment
: : collectors and their equipment.
: :
: : However, as a lay but interested person, I was hoping
: : to dial around some of the equipment (more so than the
: : manned extensions), as an enthusiast of old telecoms
: : kit, etc.

Then you're a prime candidate for membership..!

: : It sounds like their is no direct or central SIP server
: : for dialling of "member directory" entries (offices and
: : extensions, etc.). And inferring from what you are
: : saying, one has to either become a member, or garner a
: : registration account off a members gateway.

You could, if you have a Sipgate account, dial in through at least two of
the gateway numbers. 01352 838111 and 023 9298 8085 are both Sipgate
numbers. This would be a free call.

However, if you're really interested, an Asterisk box isn't that hard to
set up, plenty of people will be only too glad to help you out.

Ivor

Brian A

On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 00:19:30 GMT, "News Reader" <no@email.invalid>
wrote:

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>"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
>news:...
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>> "News Reader" <no@email.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:a6J1j.1021$.net
>> : : Hi,
>> : :
>> : :
>> : : Not sure if any of you have looked at or had any
>> : : experience, etc. of the CNET ("The Collectors Net") (a
>> : : network of users who have VoIP interconnected old
>> : : telecomms equipment - old switches, etc.).
>> : :
>> : : It is rather fun and cool (lol), etc.
>> : :
>> : : However, I have only been able to access it via PSTN
>> : : dial in gateways... which is a bit pointless and rather
>> : : defeats the purpose and makes things unnecessarily long
>> : : winded; particularly since the whole network is VoIP
>> : : and about IP connectivity!
>> : :
>> : : Hence, I am hoping some one might be able to advise or
>> : : help find the SIP dialling string format for connecting
>> : : to network nodes / devices.
>> : :
>> : : I have tried a number of combinations such as
>> : : ; ; etc., etc.
>> : : to no avail.
>> : :
>> : : Please please... any help appreciated.
>>
>> CNET is effectively a closed network. You have to either be a full part of
>> it by hosting your own Asterisk box, or if you know someone on it you can
>> set up an ATA as a host off their system.
>>
>> Be aware that the primary purpose of CNET is to link together heritage
>> telephone equipment such as old Strowger exchanges, rather than as an
>> alternative to commercial VoIP providers.
>>
>> gives all the info you need.
>>

>Interesting... it seems strange they do not support direct inbound directory
>access SIP dialling given that they publicly promote themselves, maintain a
>directory, are so outwardly friendly, encouraging and supportive of all
>interest and participation. I.e. they frequently encourage ( on their
>website ) people to call members and the various bits of equipment, etc.
Perhaps you could persuade them to have Sipbroker access. That way
you'd be able to dial in from most SIP networks.
Sipbroker access codes:-


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Ivor Jones

"Brian A" <> wrote in message
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: : Perhaps you could persuade them to have Sipbroker
: : access. That way you'd be able to dial in from most SIP
: : networks.
: : Sipbroker access codes:-
: :
: :

Hmm, possible, but as I said that isn't the function of CNET. It's
designed for those with an interest in old telephones and equipment to
connect their systems together, not as an alternative to a commercial
provider.

Anyone is free to apply to connect to CNET, gives all the
info needed.

Ivor