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Old 08-12-2007, 08:32 AM   #11
Jono
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Re: Call forwarding with no phone line

Kraftee wrote :
> Jono wrote:
>> With regards to ultimately porting an xNTL number to BT, this can
>> only happen if VirginMedia have the ability to provide you with
>> phone service at your new address. If you're moving to a non-cabled
>> area, you cannot port an xNTL number to BT.

>
> I'm afraid you are incorrect on this point, the only problem with porting an
> NTL number to BT will be if the exchange area is different, nothing to do
> with the NTL/Virgin cables being present in the area at all.


I beg to differ.

Unless something has changed that I haven't noticed in the last 12
months, you can ONLY port a cable number to BT (or vice versa) if the
following condition is met: the losing operator must be in a position
to provide service at the address.


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Old 08-12-2007, 08:32 AM   #12
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Re: Call forwarding with no phone line

Brian A wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 01:59:53 -0800 (PST), BarCarUsenet
> <> wrote:


>>I guess I'll resign myself to a changed number. Getting a BT number is
>>probably easier going forward - an ex-NTL number has always been a bit
>>of a curse when I've tried to do anything with it.


> It is about time that Ofcom treated 'cable' in the same way as BT and
> insisted that porting of numbers should be possible to any provider
> without delay.


Ofcom have already concluded that this would be a good idea:



Not sure when it's going to happen, however.

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Old 08-12-2007, 08:32 AM   #13
Kraftee
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Re: Call forwarding with no phone line

Jono wrote:
> With regards to ultimately porting an xNTL number to BT, this can
> only happen if VirginMedia have the ability to provide you with
> phone service at your new address. If you're moving to a non-cabled
> area, you cannot port an xNTL number to BT.


I'm afraid you are incorrect on this point, the only problem with
porting an NTL number to BT will be if the exchange area is different,
nothing to do with the NTL/Virgin cables being present in the area at
all.



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Old 08-12-2007, 08:33 AM   #14
Kraftee
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Re: Call forwarding with no phone line

Jono wrote:
> With regards to ultimately porting an xNTL number to BT, this can
> only happen if VirginMedia have the ability to provide you with
> phone service at your new address. If you're moving to a non-cabled
> area, you cannot port an xNTL number to BT.


I'm afraid you are incorrect on this point, the only problem with
porting an NTL number to BT will be if the exchange area is different,
nothing to do with the NTL/Virgin cables being present in the area at
all.



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Old 08-12-2007, 08:33 AM   #15
Jono
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Re: Call forwarding with no phone line

Kraftee wrote :
> Jono wrote:
>> With regards to ultimately porting an xNTL number to BT, this can
>> only happen if VirginMedia have the ability to provide you with
>> phone service at your new address. If you're moving to a non-cabled
>> area, you cannot port an xNTL number to BT.

>
> I'm afraid you are incorrect on this point, the only problem with porting an
> NTL number to BT will be if the exchange area is different, nothing to do
> with the NTL/Virgin cables being present in the area at all.


I beg to differ.

Unless something has changed that I haven't noticed in the last 12
months, you can ONLY port a cable number to BT (or vice versa) if the
following condition is met: the losing operator must be in a position
to provide service at the address.


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Old 08-12-2007, 08:34 AM   #16
Jono
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Re: Call forwarding with no phone line

Kraftee wrote :
> Jono wrote:
>> With regards to ultimately porting an xNTL number to BT, this can
>> only happen if VirginMedia have the ability to provide you with
>> phone service at your new address. If you're moving to a non-cabled
>> area, you cannot port an xNTL number to BT.

>
> I'm afraid you are incorrect on this point, the only problem with porting an
> NTL number to BT will be if the exchange area is different, nothing to do
> with the NTL/Virgin cables being present in the area at all.


I beg to differ.

Unless something has changed that I haven't noticed in the last 12
months, you can ONLY port a cable number to BT (or vice versa) if the
following condition is met: the losing operator must be in a position
to provide service at the address.


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Old 08-12-2007, 08:34 AM   #17
Kraftee
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Re: Call forwarding with no phone line

Jono wrote:
> Kraftee wrote :
>> Jono wrote:
>>> With regards to ultimately porting an xNTL number to BT, this can
>>> only happen if VirginMedia have the ability to provide you with
>>> phone service at your new address. If you're moving to a
>>> non-cabled area, you cannot port an xNTL number to BT.

>>
>> I'm afraid you are incorrect on this point, the only problem with
>> porting an NTL number to BT will be if the exchange area is
>> different, nothing to do with the NTL/Virgin cables being present
>> in the area at all.

>
> I beg to differ.
>
> Unless something has changed that I haven't noticed in the last 12
> months, you can ONLY port a cable number to BT (or vice versa) if
> the following condition is met: the losing operator must be in a
> position to provide service at the address.


I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree on this point then.


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Old 08-12-2007, 08:34 AM   #18
Peter Gradwell
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wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm about to move home and currently have an ex-NTL/Virgin (020 7)
> number ported to TalkTalk (with TalkTalk - not BT - line rental and
> call plan). I was planning to contract with BT at my new address and
> port my number to them but will not be moving in immediately.
>
> To preserve my number and provide interim call continuity I was hoping
> to port it to a VOIP provider like Voipfone. That would allow me to
> capture calls (either via voip, voicemail or call forwarding) until I
> move into my new property and I can then port the number to BT. But
> voipfone say they can't accept NTL/Virgin numbers because they
> (Virgin) aren't members of the ITSPA.


If you can wait until the new year, it might become possible. I know one
wholesaler who has completed the contractual negotiations, but is still
faffing over the details.

cheers
peter


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Old 08-12-2007, 08:35 AM   #19
Kraftee
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Re: Call forwarding with no phone line

Jono wrote:
> Kraftee wrote :
>> Jono wrote:
>>> With regards to ultimately porting an xNTL number to BT, this can
>>> only happen if VirginMedia have the ability to provide you with
>>> phone service at your new address. If you're moving to a
>>> non-cabled area, you cannot port an xNTL number to BT.

>>
>> I'm afraid you are incorrect on this point, the only problem with
>> porting an NTL number to BT will be if the exchange area is
>> different, nothing to do with the NTL/Virgin cables being present
>> in the area at all.

>
> I beg to differ.
>
> Unless something has changed that I haven't noticed in the last 12
> months, you can ONLY port a cable number to BT (or vice versa) if
> the following condition is met: the losing operator must be in a
> position to provide service at the address.


I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree on this point then.


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Old 08-12-2007, 08:35 AM   #20
Peter Gradwell
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Re: Call forwarding with no phone line

wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm about to move home and currently have an ex-NTL/Virgin (020 7)
> number ported to TalkTalk (with TalkTalk - not BT - line rental and
> call plan). I was planning to contract with BT at my new address and
> port my number to them but will not be moving in immediately.
>
> To preserve my number and provide interim call continuity I was hoping
> to port it to a VOIP provider like Voipfone. That would allow me to
> capture calls (either via voip, voicemail or call forwarding) until I
> move into my new property and I can then port the number to BT. But
> voipfone say they can't accept NTL/Virgin numbers because they
> (Virgin) aren't members of the ITSPA.


If you can wait until the new year, it might become possible. I know one
wholesaler who has completed the contractual negotiations, but is still
faffing over the details.

cheers
peter


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