Unhappy with new phone

Stephen Wray

<.uk> wrote in message
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> Nowhere <.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> > Looking at the manual, it is a bit unclear, it seems to imply the
>> > batterys are optional
>> > "If you are not using the power supply provided, batteries are
>> > required for the message waiting feature to work."
>> >
>> > But further on it points to an icon on the display
>> > "Low battery indicator Flashes when the *back-up* battery is low" (my
>> > emphisis) as no other internal battery is mentioned presumably they
>> > are referring to the same 4xAA cells.
>> >
>> > Why don't you put some in and see if the memory holds up?
>>
>>
>>
>> I have checked and it seems that in fact the phone directory is saved
>> but the date/time is lost Why this should be I do not know
>>
> That odd stupidity seems common to lots of equipment. We have a Sony
> stereo that remembers *all* of its settings except the time when it
> loses power. The most annoying bit is that (like videos) the time
> flashes at you when the power comes back.
>
> OK, so you can't "remember" the time, you need a chip that will keep
> ticking as it were but it surely can't be all that difficult.
>
But it will need a power source to do that. If it's not plugged in or has no
batteries how is it supposed to go?

Stephen

David Taylor

On 2007-12-08, <.uk> wrote:
> Nowhere <.uk> wrote:
>>
>> I have checked and it seems that in fact the phone directory is saved
>> but the date/time is lost Why this should be I do not know
>>
> That odd stupidity seems common to lots of equipment. We have a Sony
> stereo that remembers *all* of its settings except the time when it
> loses power. The most annoying bit is that (like videos) the time
> flashes at you when the power comes back.
>
> OK, so you can't "remember" the time, you need a chip that will keep
> ticking as it were but it surely can't be all that difficult.

A clock that works without mains power _or_ batteries? It is
very difficult.

Invent one, and become very rich...

(No springs allowed, either)

--
David Taylor

alexd

On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 19:25:16 +0000, David Taylor wrote:

> On 2007-12-08, <.uk> wrote:

>> OK, so you can't "remember" the time, you need a chip that will keep
>> ticking as it were but it surely can't be all that difficult.
>
> A clock that works without mains power _or_ batteries? It is very
> difficult.

That wasn't what he suggested. I think he was decrying the lack of
battery backup to keep the clock going in many devices.

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alexd

On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 19:25:16 +0000, David Taylor wrote:

> On 2007-12-08, <.uk> wrote:

>> OK, so you can't "remember" the time, you need a chip that will keep
>> ticking as it were but it surely can't be all that difficult.
>
> A clock that works without mains power _or_ batteries? It is very
> difficult.

That wasn't what he suggested. I think he was decrying the lack of
battery backup to keep the clock going in many devices.

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Clint Sharp

In message <.co.uk>, David Taylor
<.uk> writes
>A clock that works without mains power _or_ batteries? It is
>very difficult.
>
>Invent one, and become very rich...
>
>(No springs allowed, either)
>
Not so much a troll as a gnomon....
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Bob Eager

On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 23:26:05 UTC, Clint Sharp
<.uk> wrote:

> In message <.co.uk>, David Taylor
> <.uk> writes
> >A clock that works without mains power _or_ batteries? It is
> >very difficult.
> >
> >Invent one, and become very rich...
> >
> >(No springs allowed, either)
> >
> Not so much a troll as a gnomon....

(groan)
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Clint Sharp

In message <.co.uk>, David Taylor
<.uk> writes
>A clock that works without mains power _or_ batteries? It is
>very difficult.
>
>Invent one, and become very rich...
>
>(No springs allowed, either)
>
Not so much a troll as a gnomon....
--
Clint Sharp

Bob Eager

On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 23:26:05 UTC, Clint Sharp
<.uk> wrote:

> In message <.co.uk>, David Taylor
> <.uk> writes
> >A clock that works without mains power _or_ batteries? It is
> >very difficult.
> >
> >Invent one, and become very rich...
> >
> >(No springs allowed, either)
> >
> Not so much a troll as a gnomon....

(groan)
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begin 123 a new life...take up Extreme Ironing!

Graham.

"Clint Sharp" <.uk> wrote in message
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> In message <.co.uk>, David Taylor
> <.uk> writes
>>A clock that works without mains power _or_ batteries? It is
>>very difficult.
>>
>>Invent one, and become very rich...
>>
>>(No springs allowed, either)
>>
> Not so much a troll as a gnomon....


Very good. (I had to look it up)
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tinnews@isbd.co.uk

David Taylor <.uk> wrote:
> On 2007-12-08, <.uk> wrote:
> > Nowhere <.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have checked and it seems that in fact the phone directory is saved
> >> but the date/time is lost Why this should be I do not know
> >>
> > That odd stupidity seems common to lots of equipment. We have a Sony
> > stereo that remembers *all* of its settings except the time when it
> > loses power. The most annoying bit is that (like videos) the time
> > flashes at you when the power comes back.
> >
> > OK, so you can't "remember" the time, you need a chip that will keep
> > ticking as it were but it surely can't be all that difficult.
>
> A clock that works without mains power _or_ batteries? It is
> very difficult.
>
> Invent one, and become very rich...
>
> (No springs allowed, either)
>
It's called a button cell, just about every PC has had this ability
since the IBM PC appeared (15 or 20 years?). Your PC doesn't forget
the time when you turn it off does it!

My latest camera doesn't either (it says it will keep the time going
for 24 hours or so).

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Chris Green