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Old 10-12-2007, 10:54 PM   #31
tinnews@isbd.co.uk
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Re: Unhappy with new phone

alexd <> wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:32:34 +0000, tinnews wrote:
>
> > It's called a button cell, just about every PC has had this ability
> > since the IBM PC appeared (15 or 20 years?). Your PC doesn't forget the
> > time when you turn it off does it!
> >
> > My latest camera doesn't either (it says it will keep the time going for
> > 24 hours or so).

>
> If it's only 24 hours or so, then it's probably a supercap, not a button
> cell.
>

Yes, exactly! ..... and? It does exactly what I want, doesn't
forget the time when it loses power.

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Old 11-12-2007, 12:23 AM   #32
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Re: Unhappy with new phone

David Taylor <.uk> wrote:
> On 2007-12-10, <.uk> wrote:
> > Andy Burns <.uk> wrote:
> >> On 10/12/2007 10:32, wrote:
> >>
> >> > David Taylor <.uk> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> A clock that works without mains power _or_ batteries?
> >> >
> >> > It's called a button cell,
> >>
> >> That isn't WITHOUT batteries is it?
> >>

> > .... and where did I say "without batteries"?

>
> Er?
>
> You said "It's called a button cell" in response to "A clock that
> works without mains power _or_ batteries?".
>
> What exactly _did_ you mean?
>

.... that I wanted my radio (video, whatever) to remember the time as I
originally said. I don't mind in the slightest *how* it does it! As
I said PCs manage very well to do what I want.

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Old 11-12-2007, 12:23 AM   #33
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Re: Unhappy with new phone

alexd <> wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:32:34 +0000, tinnews wrote:
>
> > It's called a button cell, just about every PC has had this ability
> > since the IBM PC appeared (15 or 20 years?). Your PC doesn't forget the
> > time when you turn it off does it!
> >
> > My latest camera doesn't either (it says it will keep the time going for
> > 24 hours or so).

>
> If it's only 24 hours or so, then it's probably a supercap, not a button
> cell.
>

Yes, exactly! ..... and? It does exactly what I want, doesn't
forget the time when it loses power.

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Old 11-12-2007, 12:24 AM   #34
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Re: Unhappy with new phone

On 2007-12-10, <.uk> wrote:
> David Taylor <.uk> wrote:
>> On 2007-12-10, <.uk> wrote:
>> > Andy Burns <.uk> wrote:
>> >> On 10/12/2007 10:32, wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > David Taylor <.uk> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> A clock that works without mains power _or_ batteries?
>> >> >
>> >> > It's called a button cell,
>> >>
>> >> That isn't WITHOUT batteries is it?
>> >>
>> > .... and where did I say "without batteries"?

>>
>> Er?
>>
>> You said "It's called a button cell" in response to "A clock that
>> works without mains power _or_ batteries?".
>>
>> What exactly _did_ you mean?
>>

> ... that I wanted my radio (video, whatever) to remember the time as I
> originally said. I don't mind in the slightest *how* it does it! As
> I said PCs manage very well to do what I want.


This is like talking to a brick wall. Bye.

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Old 11-12-2007, 01:07 AM   #35
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Re: Unhappy with new phone

On 2007-12-10, <.uk> wrote:
> David Taylor <.uk> wrote:
>> On 2007-12-10, <.uk> wrote:
>> > Andy Burns <.uk> wrote:
>> >> On 10/12/2007 10:32, wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > David Taylor <.uk> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> A clock that works without mains power _or_ batteries?
>> >> >
>> >> > It's called a button cell,
>> >>
>> >> That isn't WITHOUT batteries is it?
>> >>
>> > .... and where did I say "without batteries"?

>>
>> Er?
>>
>> You said "It's called a button cell" in response to "A clock that
>> works without mains power _or_ batteries?".
>>
>> What exactly _did_ you mean?
>>

> ... that I wanted my radio (video, whatever) to remember the time as I
> originally said. I don't mind in the slightest *how* it does it! As
> I said PCs manage very well to do what I want.


This is like talking to a brick wall. Bye.

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Old 11-12-2007, 04:21 PM   #36
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Re: Unhappy with new phone

On 10 Dec 2007 17:12:03 GMT, wrote:

>Yes, exactly! ..... and? It does exactly what I want, doesn't
>forget the time when it loses power.


I have a mains timer that uses a super-cap to keep the clock going
when unplugged. After three weeks unplugged, the time is still correct
and the LCD is still clear.

Modern CMOS circuitry requires such little current that this should
almost be the norm in products these days.


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Old 11-12-2007, 04:22 PM   #37
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Re: Unhappy with new phone

Ed Straker <.org> wrote:
> On 10 Dec 2007 17:12:03 GMT, wrote:
>
> >Yes, exactly! ..... and? It does exactly what I want, doesn't
> >forget the time when it loses power.

>
> I have a mains timer that uses a super-cap to keep the clock going
> when unplugged. After three weeks unplugged, the time is still correct
> and the LCD is still clear.
>
> Modern CMOS circuitry requires such little current that this should
> almost be the norm in products these days.
>

Exactly, trivial cost and a huge increase in user happiness! :-)

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Old 11-12-2007, 04:22 PM   #38
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Re: Unhappy with new phone

On 10 Dec 2007 17:12:03 GMT, wrote:

>Yes, exactly! ..... and? It does exactly what I want, doesn't
>forget the time when it loses power.


I have a mains timer that uses a super-cap to keep the clock going
when unplugged. After three weeks unplugged, the time is still correct
and the LCD is still clear.

Modern CMOS circuitry requires such little current that this should
almost be the norm in products these days.


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Old 11-12-2007, 04:22 PM   #39
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Re: Unhappy with new phone

Ed Straker <.org> wrote:
> On 10 Dec 2007 17:12:03 GMT, wrote:
>
> >Yes, exactly! ..... and? It does exactly what I want, doesn't
> >forget the time when it loses power.

>
> I have a mains timer that uses a super-cap to keep the clock going
> when unplugged. After three weeks unplugged, the time is still correct
> and the LCD is still clear.
>
> Modern CMOS circuitry requires such little current that this should
> almost be the norm in products these days.
>

Exactly, trivial cost and a huge increase in user happiness! :-)

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Chris Green
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Old 11-12-2007, 04:31 PM   #40
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Re: Unhappy with new phone

On 10 Dec 2007 17:12:03 GMT, wrote:

>Yes, exactly! ..... and? It does exactly what I want, doesn't
>forget the time when it loses power.


I have a mains timer that uses a super-cap to keep the clock going
when unplugged. After three weeks unplugged, the time is still correct
and the LCD is still clear.

Modern CMOS circuitry requires such little current that this should
almost be the norm in products these days.


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