andrew

On 2007-11-22, Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@yahoo.com> wrote:
> andrew wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Has anybody been setting there email programs to use Gmail via IMAP?
>> I will have some spare time soon to configure mutt to run with this
>> but I was curious to see how other people have managed.
>>
>> Is it fast, slow, a pain to setup, reliable, available worldwide yet
>> etc?
>
> Using Thunderbird here. As everyone has said, it was a piece of cake to
> setup, didn't matter if it was Linux or Windows or whatever.
>
> However, I can't say that Gmail is all that fast when using IMAP vs.
> POP. POP is still much faster.

This has certainly been my experience. I have now written up mutt /
IMAP / gmail and experimented a little:

http://people.aapt.net.au/~adjlstrong/mutt.html#imap

but for my own personal use I have returned to POP3/SSL

Andrew


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Night0wl

Chris wrote:
> * andrew <andrew@ilium.invalid>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Has anybody been setting there email programs to use Gmail via IMAP?
>> I will have some spare time soon to configure mutt to run with this
>> but I was curious to see how other people have managed.
>>
>> Is it fast, slow, a pain to setup, reliable, available worldwide yet
>> etc?
>
> I use mutt with Gmail's IMAP and it works fairly well. <<<snip>>>

I get my gmail both via IMAP when I'm out and about, and via POP3 when
I'm in, using Thunderbird. In the account setup, it offers you a radio
button to setup your gmail account. Real easy.

Cheers;

Ed

Chris Game

On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:03:34 -0600, Night0wl wrote:

> I get my gmail both via IMAP when I'm out and about, and via POP3
> when I'm in, using Thunderbird.

Yu don't seem to have got the hang of IMAP. The idea is to keep the
stuff on the server, not on the home machine.

--
Chris Game

"A witty saying proves nothing." -- Voltaire

Hadron

Chris Game <chrisgame@example.net> writes:

> On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:03:34 -0600, Night0wl wrote:
>
>> I get my gmail both via IMAP when I'm out and about, and via POP3
>> when I'm in, using Thunderbird.
>
> Yu don't seem to have got the hang of IMAP. The idea is to keep the
> stuff on the server, not on the home machine.

What the previous poster says makes perfect sense. Nice light IMAP
access when "out and about" on potentially lower bandwidth connections
and copy it down to the main home machine using pop 3 when at home :
possibly using something like procmail to sort and group mail
accordingly.

btw, Using pop3 (at least with a gmail account) you can indeed "leave it"
on the server too for backup.

--
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Night0wl

Chris Game wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:03:34 -0600, Night0wl wrote:
>
>> I get my gmail both via IMAP when I'm out and about, and via POP3
>> when I'm in, using Thunderbird.
>
> Yu don't seem to have got the hang of IMAP. The idea is to keep the
> stuff on the server, not on the home machine.
>
Actually, there's a check-box in the Thunderbird/Gmail setup to leave
the mail on the server, download headers only, or download the whole
email. I'd say that's a pretty thorough set of choices. What he does
with 'em is on him...

Cheers;

Ed

Chris Game

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:31:21 -0600, Night0wl wrote:

> Chris Game wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:03:34 -0600, Night0wl wrote:
>>
>>> I get my gmail both via IMAP when I'm out and about, and via
>>> POP3 when I'm in, using Thunderbird.
>>
>> Yu don't seem to have got the hang of IMAP. The idea is to keep
>> the stuff on the server, not on the home machine.
>>
> Actually, there's a check-box in the Thunderbird/Gmail setup to
> leave the mail on the server, download headers only, or download
> the whole email. I'd say that's a pretty thorough set of
> choices. What he does with 'em is on him...

Obviously. But that doesn't mean he 'gets' IMAP. If he did he
wouldn't confuse himself by copying some mail to his machine, and/or
using IMAP on others to read/sort/write mail when he's 'out and
about'. Real IMAP users keep their outgoing mail copied to the
server, their address books and their archive on the server. Let
them worry about back-ups and sorting spam. Gmail is some sort of
bastard mixture of POP/IMAP, but would anyone really trust it? The
only real advantage is the excellent search feature.

--
Chris Game

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I'm really quite busy.