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Old 21-11-2007, 03:29 AM   #1
andrew
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IMAP and Gmail

Hi,

Has anybody been setting there email programs to use Gmail via IMAP?
I will have some spare time soon to configure mutt to run with this
but I was curious to see how other people have managed.

Is it fast, slow, a pain to setup, reliable, available worldwide yet
etc?

Andrew


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Old 21-11-2007, 05:29 AM   #2
John Yates
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Re: IMAP and Gmail

andrew wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Has anybody been setting there email programs to use Gmail via IMAP?
> I will have some spare time soon to configure mutt to run with this
> but I was curious to see how other people have managed.
>
> Is it fast, slow, a pain to setup, reliable, available worldwide yet
> etc?
>
> Andrew
>
>

I did that the other day, with Thunderbird. It works fine, and is a snap
to set up.
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Old 21-11-2007, 06:28 AM   #3
Kurt Steinhauser
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Re: IMAP and Gmail

On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:39:04 +0000, John Yates wrote:

> andrew wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Has anybody been setting there email programs to use Gmail via IMAP?
>> I will have some spare time soon to configure mutt to run with this but
>> I was curious to see how other people have managed.
>>
>> Is it fast, slow, a pain to setup, reliable, available worldwide yet
>> etc?
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>

> I did that the other day, with Thunderbird. It works fine, and is a snap
> to set up.


Agreed. Very easy setup with the Bird.

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Old 21-11-2007, 12:28 PM   #4
De Kameel
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Re: IMAP and Gmail

andrew wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Has anybody been setting there email programs to use Gmail via IMAP?
> I will have some spare time soon to configure mutt to run with this
> but I was curious to see how other people have managed.
>
> Is it fast, slow, a pain to setup, reliable, available worldwide yet
> etc?


I use Evolution to access my ISP's IMAP over IPv6. Setting it up was as
easy as setting up POP3.

de Kameel
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Old 21-11-2007, 02:27 PM   #5
Hadron
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Re: IMAP and Gmail

andrew <andrew@ilium.invalid> writes:

> Hi,
>
> Has anybody been setting there email programs to use Gmail via IMAP?
> I will have some spare time soon to configure mutt to run with this
> but I was curious to see how other people have managed.
>
> Is it fast, slow, a pain to setup, reliable, available worldwide yet
> etc?
>
> Andrew


As simple as in Gnus:

,----
| (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods
| '(nnimap "Fastmail"
| (nnimap-address "mail.messagingengine.com")
| (nnir-search-engine imap)))
|
| (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods
| '(nnimap "Gmail-IMAP"
| (nnimap-address "imap.gmail.com")
| (nnimap-stream ssl)
| (nnimap-authinfo-file "~/.authinfo")))
`----

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Old 21-11-2007, 09:28 PM   #6
Chris
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Re: IMAP and Gmail

* andrew <andrew@ilium.invalid>:
> Hi,
>
> Has anybody been setting there email programs to use Gmail via IMAP?
> I will have some spare time soon to configure mutt to run with this
> but I was curious to see how other people have managed.
>
> Is it fast, slow, a pain to setup, reliable, available worldwide yet
> etc?


I use mutt with Gmail's IMAP and it works fairly well. I used to use
the getmail and pop3 and found that with pop it was much faster than the
imap. This of course is because my machine already downloaded the mail
and mutt was just reading it. I have also found that with my old
hardware, mutt is much faster than any gui programs like claws or
T-bird. Reliablity is the same, GREAT!

As for availibility world wide...by its very nature, IMAP is the way to
go. I can use my notebook anywhere, and still have access to the Gmail
account via a friend's machine. In the past I have set up a local
machine that would access my GMail via POP3 and feed it to an IMAP
server just for this functionality.

So, if you are dead set on using mutt, you will find the set up about
the same as any other mutt config, but the operational speed will be
better than the gui counterparts.

Hopefully this followup will not start a CLI/mutt vs GUI/T-bird debate.

Cheers,
Chris
>
> Andrew
>
>

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Old 22-11-2007, 04:29 AM   #7
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On 2007-11-21, Chris <zerobias@abc.com> wrote:
> * andrew <andrew@ilium.invalid>:
>> Has anybody been setting there email programs to use Gmail via IMAP?
>> I will have some spare time soon to configure mutt to run with this
>> but I was curious to see how other people have managed.


[...]

> I use mutt with Gmail's IMAP and it works fairly well. I used to use
> the getmail and pop3 and found that with pop it was much faster than the
> imap. This of course is because my machine already downloaded the mail
> and mutt was just reading it. I have also found that with my old
> hardware, mutt is much faster than any gui programs like claws or
> T-bird. Reliablity is the same, GREAT!


[...]

> So, if you are dead set on using mutt, you will find the set up about
> the same as any other mutt config, but the operational speed will be
> better than the gui counterparts.


Well I have given it a shot and it certainly is easy enough to setup.
Do you have any extras that I have missed? I had to recompile with:

../configure --enable-imap --with-ssl

Could not get header caching to compile so that went out the window.
In ~/.muttrc I added:

set imap_user = 'my_username@gmail.com'
set spoolfile = imaps://imap.gmail.com:993/INBOX
set folder = imaps://imap.gmail.com:993
set postponed="imaps://imap.gmail.com/[Gmail]/Drafts"

and that was about it. Still doing the usual forage around the
Internet looking at everybody else's setup :-)

Andrew

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Now I can praise him, now that I can stand by to mourn
and speak before this web that killed my father; yet
I grieve for the thing done, the death, and all our race.
I have won; but my victory is soiled, and has no pride.
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Old 22-11-2007, 05:28 AM   #8
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On 2007-11-21, andrew <andrew@ilium.invalid> wrote:

[...]

> Well I have given it a shot and it certainly is easy enough to setup.
> Do you have any extras that I have missed? I had to recompile with:
>
> ./configure --enable-imap --with-ssl
>
> Could not get header caching to compile so that went out the window.
> In ~/.muttrc I added:
>
> set imap_user = 'my_username@gmail.com'
> set spoolfile = imaps://imap.gmail.com:993/INBOX
> set folder = imaps://imap.gmail.com:993
> set postponed="imaps://imap.gmail.com/[Gmail]/Drafts"


Hmmm... sometimes I am like a dog with a bone. Fixed the header
caching and authentication for smtp:

../configure --enable-imap --with-ssl --with-sasl --enable-smtp
--enable-hcache

set spoolfile = imaps://imap.gmail.com:993/INBOX

set imap_user = 'username@gmail.com'
set imap_pass = '*******'

set smtp_url="smtp://username@smtp.gmail.com:587/"
set smtp_pass = '*******'

set folder = imaps://imap.gmail.com:993
set postponed="imaps://imap.gmail.com/[Gmail]/Drafts"
set record="imaps://imap.gmail.com/[Gmail]/Sent Mail"

set header_cache=~/.mutt/hcache
set message_cachedir="~/.mutt/msgcache/"
set certificate_file=~/.mutt/certs

Almost there now :-)

Andrew

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Now I can praise him, now that I can stand by to mourn
and speak before this web that killed my father; yet
I grieve for the thing done, the death, and all our race.
I have won; but my victory is soiled, and has no pride.
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Old 22-11-2007, 09:29 PM   #9
Doug Jamal
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Re: IMAP and Gmail

On 2007-11-20, andrew intrigued me by typing:
> Hi,
>
> Has anybody been setting there email programs to use Gmail via IMAP?
> I will have some spare time soon to configure mutt to run with this
> but I was curious to see how other people have managed.
>
> Is it fast, slow, a pain to setup, reliable, available worldwide yet
> etc?
>
> Andrew
>
>


Yes. Like everyone else has stated, setup was a breeze. There are still a
few quirks when using it with the Blackberry, but with the typical email
apps, it was a piece of cake.
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Old 23-11-2007, 02:28 AM   #10
Yousuf Khan
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Re: IMAP and Gmail

andrew wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Has anybody been setting there email programs to use Gmail via IMAP?
> I will have some spare time soon to configure mutt to run with this
> but I was curious to see how other people have managed.
>
> Is it fast, slow, a pain to setup, reliable, available worldwide yet
> etc?


Using Thunderbird here. As everyone has said, it was a piece of cake to
setup, didn't matter if it was Linux or Windows or whatever.

However, I can't say that Gmail is all that fast when using IMAP vs.
POP. POP is still much faster.

Yousuf Khan
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