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Unread 29-08-2007, 12:02 PM   #1
Pseudo Silk Kimono
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[boot issue] Interpretation of message being seen on boot

For the first time today, my Feisty Fawn installation booted up with the
following message being shown during the boot process

(Re)generating splash steps for: sed: can't read /etc/inittab: No such
file or directory.

The boot process continues with no apparent issues. However, I should
point out that an fsck was done after saying that my drive has been
mounted 41 times without being checked. I am not concerned about this. I
am concerned about the above message. Is this something I need to address
or can this message be ignored.

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Unread 29-08-2007, 12:02 PM   #2
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Re: [boot issue] Interpretation of message being seen on boot

Pseudo Silk Kimono wrote:
> For the first time today, my Feisty Fawn installation booted up with the
> following message being shown during the boot process
>
> (Re)generating splash steps for: sed: can't read /etc/inittab: No such
> file or directory.


from my terminal
> trevor@voyager:/etc$ cat /etc/inittab
> cat: /etc/inittab: No such file or directory
> trevor@voyager:/etc$


I don't think your system will die from lack of that file, sed might
throw a wobbler, has some use somewhere:
http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l...l5_inittab.htm

> The boot process continues with no apparent issues. However, I should
> point out that an fsck was done after saying that my drive has been
> mounted 41 times without being checked. I am not concerned about this. I
> am concerned about the above message. Is this something I need to address
> or can this message be ignored.


The fsck thing is quite normal, BTW did you install from LiveCD or
Alternate?


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Unread 29-08-2007, 12:02 PM   #3
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:29:49 GMT, Trevor Best expounded upon us in
alt.os.linux.ubuntu :

> The fsck thing is quite normal, BTW did you install from LiveCD
> or Alternate?
>
>


My original FF Server was installed what I believe to be a Live CD.

As I recall, there are a number of options available after booting:
a) Boot from first hard disk.
b) Install to hard disk
c) Rescue a broken system

and a couple of others which I can not remember at the moment.
I would imagine that the only reason I have never seen this message
before is that this is the first time that my server has hung at the
point where it is doing the fsck. It was rather odd because after
the fsck was complete, there was a message on my screen

***REBOOT LINUX****

It seemed to me that Feisty was trying to tell me something, so I
complied and rebooted.


 
Unread 29-08-2007, 12:02 PM   #4
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Pseudo Silk Kimono wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:29:49 GMT, Trevor Best expounded upon us in
> alt.os.linux.ubuntu :
>
>> The fsck thing is quite normal, BTW did you install from LiveCD
>> or Alternate?
>>
>>

>
> My original FF Server was installed what I believe to be a Live CD.
>
> As I recall, there are a number of options available after booting:
> a) Boot from first hard disk.
> b) Install to hard disk
> c) Rescue a broken system


Doesn't look like the live, just that I was wondering on the default
number of mounts before fsck is forced, seems that it's around 22 when
installed from live CD and I think 42 for installations from the
alternative (LG might confirm that figure, she installed from alt)

> and a couple of others which I can not remember at the moment.
> I would imagine that the only reason I have never seen this message
> before is that this is the first time that my server has hung at the
> point where it is doing the fsck. It was rather odd because after
> the fsck was complete, there was a message on my screen
>
> ***REBOOT LINUX****
>
> It seemed to me that Feisty was trying to tell me something, so I
> complied and rebooted.


Strange. I know that when Windows does a chkdsk upon boot it generally
reboots automatically, never known why (I know windows just loves
rebooting, if not then it's very spiteful to itself).

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Unread 29-08-2007, 12:02 PM   #5
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On 2007-08-17, Trevor Best <newsreply@besty.org.uk> wrote:
> number of mounts before fsck is forced, seems that it's around 22 when
> installed from live CD and I think 42 for installations from the
> alternative (LG might confirm that figure, she installed from alt)


To be honest, I have no idea what the nature of my FF Server
installation is. I suppose I could find the ISO and reverse trace it
back to find out. But it seems to be moot at this point since
everything is working properly

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Unread 29-08-2007, 12:02 PM   #6
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:43:58 +0100 Trevor Best <newsreply@besty.org.uk>
wrote:

> Pseudo Silk Kimono wrote:
> > On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:29:49 GMT, Trevor Best expounded upon us in
> > alt.os.linux.ubuntu :


> >> The fsck thing is quite normal, BTW did you install from LiveCD
> >> or Alternate?


> > My original FF Server was installed what I believe to be a Live
> > CD.


> > As I recall, there are a number of options available after booting:
> > a) Boot from first hard disk.
> > b) Install to hard disk
> > c) Rescue a broken system


> Doesn't look like the live, just that I was wondering on the default
> number of mounts before fsck is forced, seems that it's around 22
> when installed from live CD and I think 42 for installations from the
> alternative (LG might confirm that figure, she installed from alt)


Yep, that's how it seems to be. My son installed from the Live CD and
his forced fsck is much more frequent than mine. I have the every 41 or
42 times one (can't remember, but will make a note of it the next time
it comes around). Prior to this install I had run Edgy Eft from a Live
CD install and had the shorter duration on the forced fsck, so I think
that's definitely the culprit. (:

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Unread 29-08-2007, 12:02 PM   #7
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Pseudo Silk Kimono wrote:
> On 2007-08-17, Trevor Best <newsreply@besty.org.uk> wrote:
>> number of mounts before fsck is forced, seems that it's around 22 when
>> installed from live CD and I think 42 for installations from the
>> alternative (LG might confirm that figure, she installed from alt)

>
> To be honest, I have no idea what the nature of my FF Server
> installation is. I suppose I could find the ISO and reverse trace it
> back to find out. But it seems to be moot at this point since
> everything is working properly
>


It was just a matter of interest, no biggie.

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Unread 29-08-2007, 12:03 PM   #8
Moog
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Little Girl illuminated alt.os.linux.ubuntu by typing:
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:43:58 +0100 Trevor Best <newsreply@besty.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Pseudo Silk Kimono wrote:
>> > On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:29:49 GMT, Trevor Best expounded upon us in
>> > alt.os.linux.ubuntu :

>
>> >> The fsck thing is quite normal, BTW did you install from LiveCD
>> >> or Alternate?

>
>> > My original FF Server was installed what I believe to be a Live
>> > CD.

>
>> > As I recall, there are a number of options available after booting:
>> > a) Boot from first hard disk.
>> > b) Install to hard disk
>> > c) Rescue a broken system

>
>> Doesn't look like the live, just that I was wondering on the default
>> number of mounts before fsck is forced, seems that it's around 22
>> when installed from live CD and I think 42 for installations from the
>> alternative (LG might confirm that figure, she installed from alt)

>
> Yep, that's how it seems to be. My son installed from the Live CD and
> his forced fsck is much more frequent than mine. I have the every 41 or
> 42 times one (can't remember, but will make a note of it the next time
> it comes around). Prior to this install I had run Edgy Eft from a Live
> CD install and had the shorter duration on the forced fsck, so I think
> that's definitely the culprit. (:


The default is every 30 mounts. You can change this using tune2fs
(assuming you're not using reiser) using a command such as

$ sudo tune2fs -c 100 /dev/hda1 ***

This will do a check every 100 mounts. You can obviously change the
100 to any number you wish.

For more info
$ man tune2fs

*** Change the hda1 to the drive that mounts first. Run $ df in a
terminal to found out the correct entry in /dev/

I believe there's a reiser alternative called reiserfstune, but I've
never used it as I'm running ext3 drives.

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Unread 29-08-2007, 12:07 PM   #9
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On 18 Aug 2007 13:51:39 GMT Moog <efcmoog***********> wrote:

> Little Girl illuminated alt.os.linux.ubuntu by typing:


[forced fsck]
> > Yep, that's how it seems to be. My son installed from the Live CD
> > and his forced fsck is much more frequent than mine. I have the
> > every 41 or 42 times one (can't remember, but will make a note of
> > it the next time it comes around). Prior to this install I had run
> > Edgy Eft from a Live CD install and had the shorter duration on the
> > forced fsck, so I think that's definitely the culprit. (:


> The default is every 30 mounts. You can change this using tune2fs
> (assuming you're not using reiser) using a command such as


Odd that we've never seen that number. We either see twenty-something
or forty-something on all the installs we and our friends have done. My
father, by the way, is still afraid to try the Live CD on his computer,
but I'm working on him. His is a Mac, so I'll be interested to hear how
that runs. (:

> $ sudo tune2fs -c 100 /dev/hda1 ***
>
> This will do a check every 100 mounts. You can obviously change the
> 100 to any number you wish.
>
> For more info
> $ man tune2fs


> *** Change the hda1 to the drive that mounts first. Run $ df in a
> terminal to found out the correct entry in /dev/


My son upped his since he was running forced fsck way too frequently
considering it counts NFS mounts.

> I believe there's a reiser alternative called reiserfstune, but I've
> never used it as I'm running ext3 drives.


Same here.

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Unread 29-08-2007, 12:10 PM   #10
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Little Girl illuminated alt.os.linux.ubuntu by typing:
> On 18 Aug 2007 13:51:39 GMT Moog <efcmoog***********> wrote:
>
>> Little Girl illuminated alt.os.linux.ubuntu by typing:

>
> [forced fsck]
>> > Yep, that's how it seems to be. My son installed from the Live CD
>> > and his forced fsck is much more frequent than mine. I have the
>> > every 41 or 42 times one (can't remember, but will make a note of
>> > it the next time it comes around). Prior to this install I had run
>> > Edgy Eft from a Live CD install and had the shorter duration on the
>> > forced fsck, so I think that's definitely the culprit. (:

>
>> The default is every 30 mounts. You can change this using tune2fs
>> (assuming you're not using reiser) using a command such as

>
> Odd that we've never seen that number. We either see twenty-something
> or forty-something on all the installs we and our friends have done. My
> father, by the way, is still afraid to try the Live CD on his computer,
> but I'm working on him. His is a Mac, so I'll be interested to hear how
> that runs. (:


It's been 30 on all of my installs. Perhaps KDE changes it?

>> $ sudo tune2fs -c 100 /dev/hda1 ***
>>
>> This will do a check every 100 mounts. You can obviously change the
>> 100 to any number you wish.
>>
>> For more info
>> $ man tune2fs

>
>> *** Change the hda1 to the drive that mounts first. Run $ df in a
>> terminal to found out the correct entry in /dev/

>
> My son upped his since he was running forced fsck way too frequently
> considering it counts NFS mounts.


Interesting. What's the benefit of NFS over Samba?

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