Apple To Own Wireless 700Mhz Network

Larry

Simon Templar <> wrote in news:5q7l4lFukekcU1
@mid.individual.net:

> Great, so another NON-standard allocation will be used in the
US. When
> will you people learn that the US is NOT the centre of the
Universe, you
> screwed yourselves over by going 850MHz GSM rather than the the
rest of
> the world's 900MHz GSM standard. How often does someone in the
US
> complain because their 850MHz device is useless when they
travel?
>
>
>

All these odd modulation schemes and incompatible systems is used
in the USA to prevent, or at least retard, churning, Simon.
There are more SELLular companies than there are customers all
trying to provide minimal service at maximum profits, so the
customers all hate their carrier, as you can easily see on these
newsgroups. So, to prevent customers from jumping ship at the
first opportunity, we invented incompatible phone systems and the
government lawyers at FCC are constantly bribed to allow it,
unlike broadcasting where FCC forces them all to use the same TV
and Radio standards, for instance. So, the American consumer is
screwed and the country is sinking under the weight of dead
SELLphones noone wants or can use. FCC cooperates further
forcing us to "upgrade to GPS", in the name of the bogus
"Homeland Security", the extension of the false flag operation of
9/11, an inside job, not Arabs with boxcutters.

Profits are way up....service is way down. Hell, Verizon doesn't
even provide internet service to its SELLular customers.

73 DE W4CSC



Larry
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DTC

Oxford wrote:
> DTC <> wrote:
>
>>> that could only be true if i was the author, so you mean the author was
>>> clueless, not me. thanks for playing.
>> You didn't say you were quoting, nevertheless...
>
> correct, but the author's info wasn't linkable, so i left it off.

Then you should have included it in quotes and at least credit to the
web page you found it on any other citations.

> at least he is right on track, in 60ish days we'll know for sure if
> Apple can't pull it off, if so, the entire cell market vastly changes.

Then you admit you bought into his dribble.

My gawd...you are so clueless.

Jack Hamilton

Oxford <> wrote:

>i'll be sure to let the author know your thoughts.

Why don't you just tell us who the author was?

Steve Sobol

["Followup-To:" header set to alt.cellular.sprintpcs.]
On 2007-11-17, Simon Templar <> wrote:

> Great, so another NON-standard allocation will be used in the US. When
> will you people learn that the US is NOT the centre of the Universe, you
> screwed yourselves over by going 850MHz GSM rather than the the rest of
> the world's 900MHz GSM standard. How often does someone in the US
> complain because their 850MHz device is useless when they travel?

While I agree with you that the usage of different frequencies is stupid
(with the exception of 1900, supposedly because 1800 was already in use
by the military), I would like to point out that every GSM phone I've owned
since switching to T-Mobile USA in 2005 has been a quad-band phone, rendering
that problem irrelevant.


--
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DTC

Oxford wrote:

[snip drivel}



Appears the only place Goggle could find this was in one place...



My gawd...you are so clueless.

Oxford

DTC <> wrote:

> Oxford wrote:
> > As this network is already built out for analogue TV, it will cost
> > little to change things for Wimaxx.
>
> False...There is no such thing as a "network already built out".
>
> > Instant nationwide network that goes
> > through walls way easier than any other Mhz band.
>
> False...There is no such thing as an "instant network".
>
> > So reception is
> > better, distance travels longer and
>
> False (in your context)...Any distant reception requires a high gain
> antenna mounted on a roof in most cases. Unlike the internal antenna of
> a cellular handset.
>
> > coverage is nationwide just as
> > analogue TV is
>
> False...UHF television coverage is not "nationwide", its mostly in urban
> areas.
>
> > and it will cost very little to maintain relative to
> > what cell phone companies compete with
>
> False...the backhaul costs to the back bone would be similar.
>
> > you only need 1/4 of the sites
> > as the 1.8Ghz that most cell phones use.
>
> False...You're making the simplistic assumption based on signal lever
> propagation and ignoring topographic terrain issues.
>
> My gawd...how can you be so clueless.

i'll be sure to let the author know your thoughts.

Oxford

"Ness Net" <.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:

> > Well, here's the word. Apple with or without Google/AT&T will bid on the
> > 700Mhz spectrum that will be auctioned by the US Government in January
> > of 2008.
>
> As we all know by now - Oxtard is (always) wrong.
>
> Here is the real deal...
>
>
>
> Google is making the necessary preparations to bid for wireless spectrum in
> an auction be held in the U.S. in January
>
> The company is planning to finance that bid alone, without partners,
> according to a report in The Wall Street Journal.

You are forgetting that Apple and Google are partners in many areas,
Eric even sits on Apple's Board of Directors so what Steve says, Eric
does.

Google simply doesn't have any experience in hardware, nor any sales
experience to go it alone, and while an mutual Apple/Google bid is
possible. Apple can easily outbid Google if needed.

As Todd mentioned the deadline for submitting bids is coming up soon.

Apple would probably use a shell company to protect the use until the
iPhone using this band is ready.

MacWorld is coming up very soon, only 58 days away! So we should know
something by that morning. (the Keynote is on the 15th)

Oxford

"Ness Net" <.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:

> > Well, here's the word. Apple with or without Google/AT&T will bid on the
> > 700Mhz spectrum that will be auctioned by the US Government in January
> > of 2008.
>
> As we all know by now - Oxtard is (always) wrong.
>
> Here is the real deal...
>
>
>
> Google is making the necessary preparations to bid for wireless spectrum in
> an auction be held in the U.S. in January
>
> The company is planning to finance that bid alone, without partners,
> according to a report in The Wall Street Journal.

You are forgetting that Apple and Google are partners in many areas,
Eric even sits on Apple's Board of Directors so what Steve says, Eric
does.

Google simply doesn't have any experience in hardware, nor any sales
experience to go it alone, and while an mutual Apple/Google bid is
possible. Apple can easily outbid Google if needed.

As Todd mentioned the deadline for submitting bids is coming up soon.

Apple would probably use a shell company to protect the use until the
iPhone using this band is ready.

MacWorld is coming up very soon, only 58 days away! So we should know
something by that morning. (the Keynote is on the 15th)

Ness Net

"Oxford" <> wrote in message
news:.qwest.net...


ALL horseshit snipped.....

Oxy - where DO you get this crap? Some blogger unencumbered by
the thought process or actual reality? Cite your source or STFU...

There actually was a good article today on this subject and Google.



iPhone mentioned as one of the CLOSED platforms that Android will crush.

Another tidbit contrary to Oxy's contention that Apple dictates all.

...."a once-radical company like Apple, when it launched the iPhone, bowed
to the carriers instead of trying to fight them."

Oxford

DTC <> wrote:

> Oxford wrote:
> > Well, here's the word. Apple with or without Google/AT&T will bid on the
> > 700Mhz spectrum that will be auctioned by the US Government in January
> > of 2008. They need to buy about 22 Mhz of the spectrum (60Mhz is being
> > sold) to cover the entire country.
>
> Yahoo message board -
> Posted by "ace_92029"
> "http://profiles.yahoo.com/ace_92029
>
> [quote]
> Well, here's the word. Apple with or without Google/AT&T will bid on the
> 700Mhz spectrum that will be auctioned by the US government in January
> of 2008. They need to buy about 22 Mhz of the spectrum (60Mhz is being
> sold) to cover the entire country.
>
> > The 700Mhz frequency is Gold in the sky! A wireless internet will one
> > day be all there is. Whoever owns this beach front property owns the
> > cell phone world. And no one will ever sell this to a competitor. Apple
> > must buy in or control this area if they are to control their cell phone
> > experience. And here's the best part.
> > As this network is already built out for analogue TV, it will cost
> > little to change things for Wimaxx. Instant nationwide network that goes
> > through walls way easier than any other Mhz band.
>
>
> Authored by: By Cade Metz in San Francisco
> [quote]
> The FCC calls the 700-MHz band "beachfront property." As TV stations
> vacate this wireless real estate, making the move to digital
> transmission, it could potentially house a nationwide wireless network
> that's faster than WiFi and more adept at passing through walls.
>
> Would you like salsa to go with the egg on yer face?

why are you so obsessed with me?