Which Java component to keep?

Russg

I have XP, do a 'add-remove' and look at Java
entries.
I have 5 Java entries:
Java 6 Update 3, 5 and 6.
and Java SE Runtime Environ. 6
and Java SE Runtime Env. 6 update 1

I've heard to delete old versions of Java.
I guess these are all version 6, so I keep them?

David H. Lipman

From: "Russg" <russgilb@MUNGEsbcyahoo.net>

| I have XP, do a 'add-remove' and look at Java
| entries.
| I have 5 Java entries:
| Java 6 Update 3, 5 and 6.
| and Java SE Runtime Environ. 6
| and Java SE Runtime Env. 6 update 1
|
| I've heard to delete old versions of Java.
| I guess these are all version 6, so I keep them?
|

Remove ALL but V6 update 6.

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Rube Bumpkin

David H. Lipman wrote:
> From: "Russg" <russgilb@MUNGEsbcyahoo.net>
>
> | I have XP, do a 'add-remove' and look at Java
> | entries.
> | I have 5 Java entries:
> | Java 6 Update 3, 5 and 6.
> | and Java SE Runtime Environ. 6
> | and Java SE Runtime Env. 6 update 1
> |
> | I've heard to delete old versions of Java.
> | I guess these are all version 6, so I keep them?
> |
>
> Remove ALL but V6 update 6.
>

Then, just to be sure, go to C:\Program Files\Java\, and remove all of
the directories except for jre1.6.0_06

I only say this because I noticed that I didn't have V6 Update 6. I
installed it, and uninstalled Update 4, and there were leftovers.

RB

RB

Russg

"Rube Bumpkin" <> wrote in message news:
> David H. Lipman wrote:
>> From: "Russg" >> | I have XP, do a 'add-remove' and look at Java
>> | entries.
>> | I have 5 Java entries:
>> | Java 6 Update 3, 5 and 6.
>> | and Java SE Runtime Environ. 6
>> | and Java SE Runtime Env. 6 update 1
>> |
>> | I've heard to delete old versions of Java.
>> | I guess these are all version 6, so I keep them?
>> |
>>
>> Remove ALL but V6 update 6.
>>
>
> Then, just to be sure, go to C:\Program Files\Java\, and remove all of the
> directories except for jre1.6.0_06
>
> I only say this because I noticed that I didn't have V6 Update 6. I
> installed it, and uninstalled Update 4, and there were leftovers.
>
> RB
>
Thanks. I used add/remove to remove all
but Java 6 6. Java 6 3 was left in the Java
folder, deleted that.
Went to the 'check Java version' at
java.com (Google Java Test). And it said
I had the latest version.

Dustin Cook

"Russg" <russgilb@MUNGEsbcyahoo.net> wrote in
news:b4LZj.292$iM3.30@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com:

> "Rube Bumpkin" <> wrote in message news:
>> David H. Lipman wrote:
>>> From: "Russg" >> | I have XP, do a 'add-remove' and look at Java
>>> | entries.
>>> | I have 5 Java entries:
>>> | Java 6 Update 3, 5 and 6.
>>> | and Java SE Runtime Environ. 6
>>> | and Java SE Runtime Env. 6 update 1
>>> |
>>> | I've heard to delete old versions of Java.
>>> | I guess these are all version 6, so I keep them?
>>> |
>>>
>>> Remove ALL but V6 update 6.
>>>
>>
>> Then, just to be sure, go to C:\Program Files\Java\, and remove all
>> of the directories except for jre1.6.0_06
>>
>> I only say this because I noticed that I didn't have V6 Update 6. I
>> installed it, and uninstalled Update 4, and there were leftovers.
>>
>> RB
>>
> Thanks. I used add/remove to remove all
> but Java 6 6. Java 6 3 was left in the Java
> folder, deleted that.
> Went to the 'check Java version' at
> java.com (Google Java Test). And it said
> I had the latest version.
>
>
>

I wonder, would it make any difference if you just uninstalled all java,
and then loaded the newest version? It seems like a cleaner way of doing
things?

Thoughts on this welcome.


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David H. Lipman

From: "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com>


| I wonder, would it make any difference if you just uninstalled all java,
| and then loaded the newest version? It seems like a cleaner way of doing
| things?
|
| Thoughts on this welcome.
|

No, it doesn't and I have experimented with office systems which could have as many as 8 v4,
v5 and v8 versions installed.

The interesting thing concerns security. I will send you a PM of an important thread.
However for this group I will state there has been many concerns about older version
installed and malware deliberately testing for different Java versions and using an array of
exploits against them. I brought this concept to an IA engineer who runs Digital eEye and
Harris Stat scans and asked him why they don't flag the older versions. The reason I was
given was the latest version has patch information which will traverse the various older
versions and patch them for vulnerability mitigation.

This being said, I still think it is prudent to remove older versions only only keep the
most recent version of Sun Java. Being in envoronment that uses many web based and java
aplet based programs and utilities, I find that keeping the numbers of versions reduced to
one reduces the problems the various web abseed and Java applets have.

There are situatuations where I am seeing WHY Sun does NOT remove older version when
installing the latest version. Some software such as Apple Quicktime will place a Java Jar
(using ZIP extension) in the JRE runtime folder. QuickTime will then set an environmental
variable that points to this ZIP file. Unfortunately, if you delete the older Sun Java
folders manually, the environmental variable will no longer point to said ZIP file.

The following is from my Win2K environmental variable listing...

QTJAVA=C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_01\lib\ext\QTJava.zip


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Nil

On 24 May 2008, "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net>
wrote in alt.comp.virus:

> There are situatuations where I am seeing WHY Sun does NOT remove
> older version when installing the latest version. Some software
> such as Apple Quicktime will place a Java Jar (using ZIP
> extension) in the JRE runtime folder. QuickTime will then set an
> environmental variable that points to this ZIP file.
> Unfortunately, if you delete the older Sun Java folders manually,
> the environmental variable will no longer point to said ZIP file.
>
> The following is from my Win2K environmental variable listing...
>
> QTJAVA=C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_01\lib\ext\QTJava.zip

I was just going to mention this. I have no idea what that Quicktime
component does, and I was thinking of just deleting it and removing the
variable. Instead, I moved it to my newest Java directory and changed
the environment variable to point to the new location. Then I deleted
all the Java directories but the newest.

That was short-sighted of both Sun and Apple. Users shouldn't have to
jump through those kinds of hoops. Most people wouldn't know how.

David H. Lipman

From: "Nil" <rednoise+news@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>

| On 24 May 2008, "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net>
| wrote in alt.comp.virus:
|
>> There are situatuations where I am seeing WHY Sun does NOT remove
>> older version when installing the latest version. Some software
>> such as Apple Quicktime will place a Java Jar (using ZIP
>> extension) in the JRE runtime folder. QuickTime will then set an
>> environmental variable that points to this ZIP file.
>> Unfortunately, if you delete the older Sun Java folders manually,
>> the environmental variable will no longer point to said ZIP file.
>>
>> The following is from my Win2K environmental variable listing...
>>
>> QTJAVA=C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_01\lib\ext\QTJava.zip
|
| I was just going to mention this. I have no idea what that Quicktime
| component does, and I was thinking of just deleting it and removing the
| variable. Instead, I moved it to my newest Java directory and changed
| the environment variable to point to the new location. Then I deleted
| all the Java directories but the newest.
|
| That was short-sighted of both Sun and Apple. Users shouldn't have to
| jump through those kinds of hoops. Most people wouldn't know how.

I agree !

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