Mobile SIP phone suggestions please!

Ryan

Hi all.

I am off to the States for a while shortly and want to keep in touch with
family in the UK.
I have a sipgate account so want to get a mobile phone type thing that works
on WiFi that I can take with me - set it up with my sipgate account and
carry it with me.

Now, does any one have experience of any of the mobile phone type models (I
have looked at this one: http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=159243) and what
type of speech quality could I expect if I am in the US and the family are
in the UK.

Cheers
Ry

Gordon Henderson

In article <TX9Mj.12341$ck.1946@newsfe30.ams2>,
Ryan <ryan@news.fatboy.me.uk> wrote:
>Hi all.
>
>I am off to the States for a while shortly and want to keep in touch with
>family in the UK.
>I have a sipgate account so want to get a mobile phone type thing that works
>on WiFi that I can take with me - set it up with my sipgate account and
>carry it with me.
>
>Now, does any one have experience of any of the mobile phone type models (I
>have looked at this one: http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=159243) and what
>type of speech quality could I expect if I am in the US and the family are
>in the UK.

I'm not a fan of Wi-Fi phones as you might read here... One of the
issues you might have is registering with an access point that needs a
username and password... Even if you get a "free" token from a coffee
shop, etc...

So in that respect, my Nokia E90 is great, as I can use it's web
browser, then register, then use the SIP client via Wi-Fi...
(when they've not firewalled it out)

If you know you'll not need to register/login (eg. from workplace)
then it'll be easier...

That phone is pricey - if you want cheap, then have a look at:

http://www.provu.co.uk/ex_demo.html

They have F1000's for £30... (+VAT, I imagine) I have one of these and
while it's not perfect (needs rebooting, loses registration, etc.), when
it has been working it's been "acceptable" for what it is.

Still not a fan of Wi-Fi though!

Let us know what you went for and how you got on!

Gordon

Ivor Jones

Ryan wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> I am off to the States for a while shortly and want to keep in touch
> with family in the UK.
> I have a sipgate account so want to get a mobile phone type thing
> that works on WiFi that I can take with me - set it up with my
> sipgate account and carry it with me.
>
> Now, does any one have experience of any of the mobile phone type
> models (I have looked at this one:
> http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=159243) and what type of speech
> quality could I expect if I am in the US and the family are in the UK.

I just use my laptop with a headset and X-Pro. Fiddly and not exactly
pocket sized, but works for just calling home. For local calls over there
I use a local T-Mobile SIM.

Ivor

Michael Chare

"Ryan" <ryan@news.fatboy.me.uk> wrote in message
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> Hi all.
>
> I am off to the States for a while shortly and want to keep in touch with
> family in the UK.
> I have a sipgate account so want to get a mobile phone type thing that
> works on WiFi that I can take with me - set it up with my sipgate account
> and carry it with me.
>
> Now, does any one have experience of any of the mobile phone type models
> (I have looked at this one: http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=159243) and
> what type of speech quality could I expect if I am in the US and the
> family are in the UK.


I have a Nokia E65 (for which I paid less SIM Free than the phone in your
web link). It is also a tri-band phone.

Although I have found one or two free WiFi points, non of them would let me
make a SIP call. I had enough difficulty persuading my own router to allow
an outgoign call.


What I have found most useful is the Nokia maps which are free, and work
with an external iBlue 737 bluetooth GPS.

--
Michael Chare

Martin²

Too expensive.
You can get a new Senao SI 7800H on ebay from data_shopper.
Or you can get a slightly second hand one from me.
I have to agree with Gordon, it works OK on open WiFi networks, it's a
hassle to connect to encrypted networks and does not always work. The call
quality can be good or poor, depends on how busy the network is.
Another possibility is to buy a Pirelli Mobile / WiFi / SIP phone from
sipgate.co.uk for £59 +postage,
seems a good price for a decent mobile phone alone, and consider the VoIP
thrown in for free.
Can't say how well that works, in fact I am waiting for somebody else to be
a guinea pig...
Regards,
Martin
senao at gsoft dot freeserve.co.uk

Piers Finlayson

"Michael Chare" <MunderscoreNEWS@chareDOTorg.uk> wrote in message
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> "Ryan" <ryan@news.fatboy.me.uk> wrote in message
> news:TX9Mj.12341$ck.1946@newsfe30.ams2...
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I am off to the States for a while shortly and want to keep in touch with
>> family in the UK.
>> I have a sipgate account so want to get a mobile phone type thing that
>> works on WiFi that I can take with me - set it up with my sipgate account
>> and carry it with me.
>>
>> Now, does any one have experience of any of the mobile phone type models
>> (I have looked at this one: http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=159243) and
>> what type of speech quality could I expect if I am in the US and the
>> family are in the UK.
>
>
> I have a Nokia E65 (for which I paid less SIM Free than the phone in your
> web link). It is also a tri-band phone.
>
> Although I have found one or two free WiFi points, non of them would let
> me make a SIP call. I had enough difficulty persuading my own router to
> allow an outgoign call.
>

I regularly use my E65 to make and receive SIP calls.

With the regular Vodafone firmware on the phone, the phone (silently) didn't
allow SIP calls. When I installed Truphone, or reflashed the firmware to a
generic one I had no issues.

Gordon Henderson

In article <J4adnaTvF58pzZzVnZ2dnUVZ8gidnZ2d@plusnet>,
Martin² <never@give.one> wrote:
>Too expensive.
>You can get a new Senao SI 7800H on ebay from data_shopper.
>Or you can get a slightly second hand one from me.
>I have to agree with Gordon, it works OK on open WiFi networks, it's a
>hassle to connect to encrypted networks and does not always work. The call
>quality can be good or poor, depends on how busy the network is.
>Another possibility is to buy a Pirelli Mobile / WiFi / SIP phone from
>sipgate.co.uk for £59 +postage,
>seems a good price for a decent mobile phone alone, and consider the VoIP
>thrown in for free.
>Can't say how well that works, in fact I am waiting for somebody else to be
>a guinea pig...

One of my clients appears to have one of these...

ie.:

siren*CLI> sip show peer 130100
...
Useragent : Pirelli D910.0.3.99d FS_D910.0.2.82c_PIG

And from the log:

Apr 13 08:01:16 NOTICE[10380] chan_sip.c: Peer '130100' is now TOO LAGGED! (3288ms / 2000ms)
Apr 13 08:01:27 NOTICE[10380] chan_sip.c: Peer '130100' is now REACHABLE! (646ms / 2000ms)
Apr 13 08:21:39 NOTICE[10380] chan_sip.c: Peer '130100' is now TOO LAGGED! (3286ms / 2000ms)
Apr 13 08:21:50 NOTICE[10380] chan_sip.c: Peer '130100' is now REACHABLE! (748ms / 2000ms)
Apr 13 08:25:55 NOTICE[10380] chan_sip.c: Peer '130100' is now UNREACHABLE! Last qualify: 412
Apr 13 08:26:05 NOTICE[10380] chan_sip.c: Peer '130100' is now REACHABLE! (342ms / 2000ms)
Apr 13 08:33:12 NOTICE[10380] chan_sip.c: Peer '130100' is now TOO LAGGED! (3289ms / 2000ms)
Apr 13 08:33:23 NOTICE[10380] chan_sip.c: Peer '130100' is now REACHABLE! (645ms / 2000ms)
Apr 13 08:40:28 NOTICE[10380] chan_sip.c: Peer '130100' is now TOO LAGGED! (2190ms / 2000ms)
Apr 13 08:40:38 NOTICE[10380] chan_sip.c: Peer '130100' is now REACHABLE! (310ms / 2000ms)
Apr 13 08:54:48 NOTICE[10380] chan_sip.c: Peer '130100' is now TOO LAGGED! (3291ms / 2000ms)
Apr 13 08:54:59 NOTICE[10380] chan_sip.c: Peer '130100' is now REACHABLE! (643ms / 2000ms)
Apr 13 09:11:11 NOTICE[10380] chan_sip.c: Peer '130100' is now UNREACHABLE! Last qualify: 519

etc. all day/night long ....

So I don't know if it's the phone, his Wi-Fi connection, or what, but
it does look odd, but he does seem to be making calls with it!

Gordon

Roger

"Ryan" <ryan@news.fatboy.me.uk> wrote in message
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> Hi all.
>
> I am off to the States for a while shortly and want to keep in touch with
> family in the UK.
> I have a sipgate account so want to get a mobile phone type thing that
> works on WiFi that I can take with me - set it up with my sipgate account
> and carry it with me.
>
> Now, does any one have experience of any of the mobile phone type models
> (I have looked at this one: http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=159243) and
> what type of speech quality could I expect if I am in the US and the
> family are in the UK.
>
> Cheers
> Ry
>
any windows mobile phone with wifi and with Fring installed will work(free
download) - I use this for skype/msn and my voip accounts. Only issue is you
have to use a headset or the loudspeaker - you cant use the phone earpiece.

Ryan

> any windows mobile phone with wifi and with Fring installed will work(free
> download) - I use this for skype/msn and my voip accounts. Only issue is
> you have to use a headset or the loudspeaker - you cant use the phone
> earpiece.

Thanks to all for the advice - will have a look at some of the suggestions
put forward - you never know, I could be the guinea pig!

Roger

"Ryan" <ryan@news.fatboy.me.uk> wrote in message
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>> any windows mobile phone with wifi and with Fring installed will
>> work(free download) - I use this for skype/msn and my voip accounts. Only
>> issue is you have to use a headset or the loudspeaker - you cant use the
>> phone earpiece.
>
> Thanks to all for the advice - will have a look at some of the suggestions
> put forward - you never know, I could be the guinea pig!
>
Sorry Ryan I meant to say Windows Mobile 6 (I dont think Fring works with
ver 5 but may be wrong)