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Old 11-08-2009, 01:30 AM   #1
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Default Re: Windows Defender Switching off.


I have vista 64 and was running avg free 8.5 and windows defender.
All was working well.
Then WD stopped working automatically after I did some recent upgrades
to windows and went to avg free 9.0.
Did the 'automatic' thing via services but no help. WD keeps stopping
after a few minutes after a reboot.
Couldnt go back to avg free 8.5. Not available on net or couldn't see
how to.
So I just deleted the avg.
WD works fine now.
But Im not sure if I have reduced my security level or not.
Question is - Do I need an antivirus software as well as Windows
Defender, or is windows defender enough?
Thankyou in advance for anyone who answers this.


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Old 11-08-2009, 02:30 AM   #2
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jobe wrote:[color=blue]
> I have vista 64 and was running avg free 8.5 and windows defender.
> All was working well.
> Then WD stopped working automatically after I did some recent upgrades
> to windows and went to avg free 9.0.
> Did the 'automatic' thing via services but no help. WD keeps stopping
> after a few minutes after a reboot.
> Couldnt go back to avg free 8.5. Not available on net or couldn't see
> how to.
> So I just deleted the avg.
> WD works fine now.
> But Im not sure if I have reduced my security level or not.
> Question is - Do I need an antivirus software as well as Windows
> Defender, or is windows defender enough?
> Thankyou in advance for anyone who answers this.
>
>[/color]
AVG 9 has anti spyware protection real time, the same as WD. Probably a
conflict there-can't say for sure but I can tell you that WD is not very
good so no big loss, but WD is not antivirus. Options; Lots of good
malware apps out there, google for malwarebytes, Adaware, etc. Another
alternative is to download Microsoft security essentials which does
antivirus and antispyware real time.
What upgrades are you referring to? Did you upgrade to win7?
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:30 PM   #3
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Default Re: Windows Defender Switching off.


Thanks for responding.

No special upgrade to windows vista, just the regular security
downloads that became available around the 4th of November.

The problem is you cant turn off WD without an error message coming up
every time you start the computer. Theres no option to delete WD
anywhere. Microsoft has decided that WD must run with windows vista or
you have to deal with error messages if you try to turn it off. They
have given you no choice. Its not serious but annoying. So Im stuck with
keeping WD running, and so I guess Ill find an antivirus program that
doesnt conflict with WD.


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Old 11-08-2009, 08:30 PM   #4
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"jobe" <jobe.41c3fb@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
news:jobe.41c3fb@DoNotSpam.com...[color=blue]
>
> Thanks for responding.
>
> No special upgrade to windows vista, just the regular security
> downloads that became available around the 4th of November.
>
> The problem is you cant turn off WD without an error message coming up
> every time you start the computer. Theres no option to delete WD
> anywhere. Microsoft has decided that WD must run with windows vista or
> you have to deal with error messages if you try to turn it off. They
> have given you no choice. Its not serious but annoying. So Im stuck
> with
> keeping WD running, and so I guess Ill find an antivirus program that
> doesnt conflict with WD.[/color]

First it was not starting automatically, then it was stopping
prematurely, and now it is the notifications?

Is this the security center pop-up thingy?

Maybe this will help:

[url]http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/163857-security-center-specific-alert-notification.html[/url]

Thanks to Shawn (Brink) for posting this earlier in response to another
issue.


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Old 11-08-2009, 11:30 PM   #5
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"Dave T." <Dave@domaine.invalid> wrote in message
news:hd57kq$ilp$1@news.eternal-september.org...[color=blue]
> jobe wrote:[color=green]
>> I have vista 64 and was running avg free 8.5 and windows defender.
>> All was working well.
>> Then WD stopped working automatically after I did some recent upgrades
>> to windows and went to avg free 9.0.
>> Did the 'automatic' thing via services but no help. WD keeps stopping
>> after a few minutes after a reboot.
>> Couldnt go back to avg free 8.5. Not available on net or couldn't see
>> how to.
>> So I just deleted the avg.
>> WD works fine now.
>> But Im not sure if I have reduced my security level or not.
>> Question is - Do I need an antivirus software as well as Windows
>> Defender, or is windows defender enough?
>> Thankyou in advance for anyone who answers this.
>>
>>[/color]
> AVG 9 has anti spyware protection real time, the same as WD. Probably a
> conflict there-can't say for sure but I can tell you that WD is not very
> good so no big loss, but WD is not antivirus. Options; Lots of good
> malware apps out there, google for malwarebytes, Adaware, etc. Another
> alternative is to download Microsoft security essentials which does
> antivirus and antispyware real time.
> What upgrades are you referring to? Did you upgrade to win7?
> Dave T.[/color]
AVG 9 works well on my Windows Vista 64-Bit OS with Windows Defender. It
also works well on my Win7 64-Bit machine.

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Old 11-11-2009, 04:30 AM   #6
Gloria J. Brouse
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Jobe,,,, i do not run DF at all. I use MS 1 Care, and havnt looked back.
and, YES, I would most definantly still get a GOOD and RELIABLE AV program.
MS Defender has its 'ways' Ive found out to NOT catch alot of UNdesireables
,,,,think "LAYER PROTECTION" and rememeber- U GET WHAT U PAY FOR ; -)


"jobe" <jobe.41b63b@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
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>
> I have vista 64 and was running avg free 8.5 and windows defender.
> All was working well.
> Then WD stopped working automatically after I did some recent upgrades
> to windows and went to avg free 9.0.
> Did the 'automatic' thing via services but no help. WD keeps stopping
> after a few minutes after a reboot.
> Couldnt go back to avg free 8.5. Not available on net or couldn't see
> how to.
> So I just deleted the avg.
> WD works fine now.
> But Im not sure if I have reduced my security level or not.
> Question is - Do I need an antivirus software as well as Windows
> Defender, or is windows defender enough?
> Thankyou in advance for anyone who answers this.
>
>
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