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Old 01-08-2011, 10:30 PM   #1
Stan Brown
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Default Vuescan and missing scanner driver

Back in October I asked for help because Canon does not have a Win 7
driver for my LiDE 50 scanner. One suggestion given was to install
Vuescan; another was to install a Windows XP virtual machine and run
the scanner in it. The latter suggestion worked, as I reported after
trying it.

Today I thought it would be nice to be able to scan without opening a
virtual machine, so I installed Vuescan as Chuck had suggested.
Apparently he was under a misapprehension. Vuescan does not work
unless it can use the scanner manufacturer's drivers, so it is
useless for my situation. I confirmed this in email exchanges with
the program author, Ed Hamrick, who was prompt and courteous.

I'm posting here for the benefit of others who might upgrade to
Windows 7 and think that Vuescan can handle their scanner without
drivers. (The program's compatibility list does encourage that
impression, and I've suggested to Ed that he might want to make it
more clear that manufacturer's drivers are required with Vuescan.)


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http://OakRoadSystems.com
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Old 01-09-2011, 07:30 AM   #2
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Stan Brown wrote:
> Back in October I asked for help because Canon does not have a Win 7
> driver for my LiDE 50 scanner. One suggestion given was to install
> Vuescan; another was to install a Windows XP virtual machine and run
> the scanner in it. The latter suggestion worked, as I reported after
> trying it.
>
> Today I thought it would be nice to be able to scan without opening a
> virtual machine, so I installed Vuescan as Chuck had suggested.
> Apparently he was under a misapprehension. Vuescan does not work
> unless it can use the scanner manufacturer's drivers, so it is
> useless for my situation. I confirmed this in email exchanges with
> the program author, Ed Hamrick, who was prompt and courteous.
>
> I'm posting here for the benefit of others who might upgrade to
> Windows 7 and think that Vuescan can handle their scanner without
> drivers. (The program's compatibility list does encourage that
> impression, and I've suggested to Ed that he might want to make it
> more clear that manufacturer's drivers are required with Vuescan.)




I have a Canon Lide 30, which I have hardly used simply because I don't need
much scanning. I have been unable to find a Canon driver suitable for this
model on windows 7, neither can I find any freeware driver. Canon told me
it is too old to bother updating the driver. So stuff you Canon - I've found
their products excellent, but they are definitely off my list now.


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Old 01-09-2011, 04:30 PM   #3
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On 08/01/2011 21:58, Stan Brown wrote:
> Back in October I asked for help because Canon does not have a Win 7
> driver for my LiDE 50 scanner. One suggestion given was to install
> Vuescan; another was to install a Windows XP virtual machine and run
> the scanner in it. The latter suggestion worked, as I reported after
> trying it.
>
> Today I thought it would be nice to be able to scan without opening a
> virtual machine, so I installed Vuescan as Chuck had suggested.
> Apparently he was under a misapprehension. Vuescan does not work
> unless it can use the scanner manufacturer's drivers, so it is
> useless for my situation. I confirmed this in email exchanges with
> the program author, Ed Hamrick, who was prompt and courteous.
>
> I'm posting here for the benefit of others who might upgrade to
> Windows 7 and think that Vuescan can handle their scanner without
> drivers. (The program's compatibility list does encourage that
> impression, and I've suggested to Ed that he might want to make it
> more clear that manufacturer's drivers are required with Vuescan.)


I have an old Epson Perfection 2450 scanner used for many years (and
still used) under XPH 32-bit.

Last year I got a Win7x64 laptop. Despite much searching, I found that
there was no 64-bit driver for the scanner. Various, somewhat
complicated, fixes did not work, so I downloaded and installed VueScan.
I tried it as a simple photocopier and it worked without problem.

There are numerous references to using VueScan with a 64-bit OS when an
original driver does not exist. For example, see:
http://ddisoftware.com/tech/computer...s-and-vuescan/

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Old 01-11-2011, 01:30 AM   #4
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On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 16:29:17 +0000, Jeff Layman wrote:
> There are numerous references to using VueScan with a 64-bit OS when an
> original driver does not exist. For example, see:
> http://ddisoftware.com/tech/computer...s-and-vuescan/
>


Maybe you should read that URL before you post it, because it says
the opposite of what you say. The first post there explicitly says
"even with the Canon 64 bit driver and software."

There's also the issue that, as I posted, Vuescan's own author said
it needs the manufacturer's drivers.

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Old 01-11-2011, 12:30 PM   #5
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On 11/01/2011 01:04, Stan Brown wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 16:29:17 +0000, Jeff Layman wrote:
>> There are numerous references to using VueScan with a 64-bit OS when an
>> original driver does not exist. For example, see:
>> http://ddisoftware.com/tech/computer...s-and-vuescan/
>>

>
> Maybe you should read that URL before you post it, because it says
> the opposite of what you say. The first post there explicitly says
> "even with the Canon 64 bit driver and software."
>
> There's also the issue that, as I posted, Vuescan's own author said
> it needs the manufacturer's drivers.


Maybe you should read the URL. Here is the full text from the first
message there:

"Canon Scanners - 64 bit OS and VueScan
on: December 02, 2010, 07:32:58 AM

If you have a 64 bit operating system and an older Canon scanner (mine
is a Canon 8400F so not that old) you are likely to have problems
getting full functionality with 64 bit W7, even with the Canon 64 bit
driver and software. In particular, transparency adaptors do not work.
For some years I've used VueScan software for scanning, probably the
best for any scanner so when I went to W7-64 recently found I'd lost
functionality on my scanner and VueScan did not work with it all Sad
However, a few day's ago, VueScan v9 was launched with a 64 bit version.
This has solved all the problems and my scanner has a new lease of life,
transparency adaptor included Cheesy
It can solve problems with other older scanners too where there are no
64-bit drivers; VueScan provides them for you Cool"

What do you find unclear about the last paragraph?

Also see posts here:
http://discussions.hardwarecentral.c....php?p=1045496
and here:
http://www.naturescapes.net/phpBB3/v...p?f=2&t=188642

I do not know why Ed Hamrick said what he did to you about VueScan
needing the original manufacturer's drivers, other than his webpage does
say that the best way to see if VueScan works is to download it and try
it. It is free to try it, so what is there to lose? All I know is (a)
my Epson scanner works with VueScan 9 and there are NO 64-bit drivers
for it., and (b) there are numerous references on the net - such as the
one I gave - which say VueScan works where there are no 64-bit drivers
available.

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Old 01-12-2011, 04:30 PM   #6
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Default Re: Vuescan + Canon Lide 50_64 bit

Stan Brown schreef:
> On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 16:29:17 +0000, Jeff Layman wrote:
>> There are numerous references to using VueScan with a 64-bit OS when an
>> original driver does not exist. For example, see:
>> http://ddisoftware.com/tech/computer...s-and-vuescan/
>>

>
> Maybe you should read that URL before you post it, because it says
> the opposite of what you say. The first post there explicitly says
> "even with the Canon 64 bit driver and software."
>
> There's also the issue that, as I posted, Vuescan's own author said
> it needs the manufacturer's drivers.
>


Stan I found this on a forum:
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/762629

Someone wrote:

After trying all of the suggestions that I could find including trying
the LiDE60 driver with no success, I stumbled upon this driver:

http://www.webwhitenoise.com/item/20...0-x64-drivers/

Download site:
http://www.mediafire.com/?d37237b7r7d59g5

The file is in 7zip (7z) format,unzip with
http://www.7zipportable.com/

Quote:

'Uninstalled all instances of LiDE50/60 drivers, installed the new DNA
driver, plugged the scanner in and it worked. Scanner is now working
essentially flawlessly on Vista 64bit.

Only issue is that the buttons on the front of the scanner do not work.
You must use the CanoScan Toolbox or similar software to access the
scanner functions.'

Somebody else wrote that this driver works with Window7_64 bit

Quote:

'Our Canon LiDE 50 works with our Macbook, without any intervention, but
it wasn't recognised by Windows 7, and I couldn't find a suitable
driver. I was about to buy a new scanner, then came across this link. As
written, it works a treat (except for the front panel buttons): Thanks a
million!'

I hope it works for you.

Regards,

Zanqeutil.





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Old 01-12-2011, 04:30 PM   #7
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:51:28 +0100, Zanqeutil wrote:
> Stan I found this on a forum:
> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/762629
>
> Someone wrote:
>
> After trying all of the suggestions that I could find including trying
> the LiDE60 driver with no success, I stumbled upon this driver:
>
> http://www.webwhitenoise.com/item/20...0-x64-drivers/
>
> Download site:
> http://www.mediafire.com/?d37237b7r7d59g5


This looks really promising, thanks. I'll try it and report back.


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Old 01-16-2011, 10:30 PM   #8
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Default Re: Vuescan + Canon Lide 50_64 bit SOLVED!!

On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:51:28 +0100, Zanqeutil wrote:
>
> Stan Brown schreef:
> > There's also the issue that, as I posted, Vuescan's own author
> > said it needs the manufacturer's drivers.

>
> Stan I found this on a forum:
>
> Someone wrote:
>
> After trying all of the suggestions that I could find including trying
> the LiDE60 driver with no success, I stumbled upon this driver:
>
> http://www.webwhitenoise.com/item/20...0-x64-drivers/
>
> Download site:
> http://www.mediafire.com/?d37237b7r7d59g5
>
> 'Our Canon LiDE 50 works with our Macbook, without any
> intervention, but it wasn't recognised by Windows 7, and I couldn't
> find a suitable driver. I was about to buy a new scanner, then came
> across this link. As written, it works a treat (except for the
> front panel buttons): Thanks a million!'
>
> I hope it works for you.


Thanks again for posting this. The driver worked for me without a
problem! I didn't try the LiDE 50's own buttons, since the forum
article said they don't work. But I didn't use them anyway. My
normal routine is: open Irfanview, select TWAIN source, Acquire/Batch
Scan. It opened the driver, I scanned, and Irfanview received the
results. (I tried both single-page and multi-page images.) What a
relief!

I did notice a little "clink" or "bump" sound during preview. I
conjecture that the LiDE 60 might be slightly larger than the 50, so
the 50 under a 60 driver is overscanning. This happens under preview
only, not under scan where I have the specific area selected, so it's
only once per scanning session.

Again, thanks for much for finding this. I had googled the problem
myself before posting, but I failed to turn up this article.

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http://OakRoadSystems.com
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Old 01-17-2011, 09:30 PM   #9
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Default Re: Vuescan + Canon Lide 50_64 bit Bump!!

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Stan Brown schreef:
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:51:28 +0100, Zanqeutil wrote:
>>
>> Stan Brown schreef:
>>> There's also the issue that, as I posted, Vuescan's own author
>>> said it needs the manufacturer's drivers.

>>
>> Stan I found this on a forum:
>>
>> Someone wrote:
>>
>> After trying all of the suggestions that I could find including trying
>> the LiDE60 driver with no success, I stumbled upon this driver:
>>
>> http://www.webwhitenoise.com/item/20...0-x64-drivers/
>>
>> Download site:
>> http://www.mediafire.com/?d37237b7r7d59g5
>>
>> 'Our Canon LiDE 50 works with our Macbook, without any
>> intervention, but it wasn't recognised by Windows 7, and I couldn't
>> find a suitable driver. I was about to buy a new scanner, then came
>> across this link. As written, it works a treat (except for the
>> front panel buttons): Thanks a million!'
>>
>> I hope it works for you.

>
> Thanks again for posting this. The driver worked for me without a
> problem! I didn't try the LiDE 50's own buttons, since the forum
> article said they don't work. But I didn't use them anyway. My
> normal routine is: open Irfanview, select TWAIN source, Acquire/Batch
> Scan. It opened the driver, I scanned, and Irfanview received the
> results. (I tried both single-page and multi-page images.) What a
> relief!
>
> I did notice a little "clink" or "bump" sound during preview. I
> conjecture that the LiDE 60 might be slightly larger than the 50, so
> the 50 under a 60 driver is overscanning. This happens under preview
> only, not under scan where I have the specific area selected, so it's
> only once per scanning session.
>
> Again, thanks for much for finding this. I had googled the problem
> myself before posting, but I failed to turn up this article.
>


Hi Stan,

Your welcome,

Nice to hear that you don't have to to throw the old scanner out of the
window. I hope the 'clink' or 'bump' sound does not not mean the Canon
Twain driver over-stretches the Lide 50 hardware. I'm still using an old
Canon D646-ex scanner, I'm used to the funny noises it produces, but
scans are great.

Regards,

Zanqeutil



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