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Zelator 02-20-2009 09:30 PM

Problems with Touchpad,keyboard and USB after Ideacom update (solu
 
I have Equium M50 (59E) and got bitten by an update that took out my touchpad
and keyboard .I have made fresh install of XP Home and have all updated
drivers and all is going well .The last update i cant seem to fathom is for
Driver Ana _2005_10_24_V1.2 it is for ,Standard Open HCD USB Host
Controller........X 2 .........

The update fixes all kinds of issues of the kind i am having and is a
recomended update from Driver detective ,that i use offten .

The trouble is it says to uninstall drivers for the one i have installed
allready and when i do this it knocks off my USB mouse leaving me not able to
install the new ones .When i reboot it installs the ones i dont want
reinstalled .

This is the read me off the new update and realy it is beyond me to
underdstand what to do ............so here it is ?
Driver revision history:
Twinhan VP704A Driver Release note
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Note:
1.In case the system crashes while running with VP704A, Please install ULI
USB 2.0 host driver in \ULiUSB20Driver

2. For XP/SP1, please update with the patch in
<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=zh-tw&familyid=733dd867-56a0-4956-b7fe-e85b688b7f86>

3.In XP/SP1, updating driver will crash the system, while new install is ok.
The trick to update driver in XP/SP1 is shown in the following steps,
a. Uninstall the driver
b. Unplug and plug the USB device
c. Install the driver
4. To support remote controller, please launch Agent.exe in \Agent.
Further details can be found in \Agent\Readme.txt

Known issues:
1. Multi-instance is not supported
2. Remote wakeup is not supported
3. High CPU usage in Analog audio/video capture
4. Bad VBI Signal using YUY2 color format
5. AV out of sync if audio captured from wrong filter.
(Fix:using the filter "USB Audio Device" in WDM stream capture device)
6. Noise with analog-TV and FM Radio
(Fix:using the filter "USB Audio Device" in WDM stream capture device)

Driver revision history:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2005/10/24, Version: 1.0.2.8
Bugs fixed and new features:
1.Crossbar not properly set.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2005/10/21, Version: 1.0.2.7
Bugs fixed and new features:
1.Firmware version read from FLASH OK!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2005/10/14, Version: 1.0.2.6
Bugs fixed and new features:
1.Mutil-Access driver blank part below part screen when VBI!
2.Mutil-Access driver HCT driver verify crash fix!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2005/10/07, Version: 1.0.2.5
Bugs fixed and new features:
1.Tuner Power off when S-Video,Composite.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2005/09/30, Version: 1.0.2.4
Bugs fixed and new features:
1.Agent.exe updated for repeat bug!
2.TI5150 Register for Video Format fix!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2005/09/29, Version: 1.0.2.3
Bugs fixed and new features:
1.A trial driver build for multiple access support. (in the folder
"\Multi-Access")
Note: "USB Audio device" filter provided by system does not support
mutil-Access.
2.Reset TI5150 when a new frequency is set

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2005/09/27, Version: 1.0.2.2
Bugs fixed and new features:
1.Fix I2C unstable access on some devices.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2005/09/23, Version: 1.0.2.1
Bugs fixed and new features:
1.Analog TV becomes darker sometimes.

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2005/09/15, Version: 1.0.2.0
Bugs fixed and new features:
1.Fix INF for Windows 2000 installation.
2.FM radio scan policy changed!

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2005/09/13, Version: 1.0.1.9
Bugs fixed and new features:
1.USB serial number string not visible with USBView, firmware update required.
2.FM radio scan policy, return unlock if PLLOffset>=9x12.5KHz

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2005/09/13, Version: 1.0.1.8
Bugs fixed and new features:
1.After switching between A/D/AV several times, video display becomes dark
in THDTV 2.61

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2005/09/12, Version: 1.0.1.7
Bugs fixed and new features:
1.Improve channel lock status check performance
2.Pinnacle INF Fix.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2005/09/09, Version: 1.0.1.6
Bugs fixed and new features:
1.Add some audio initialization function.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2005/08/31, Version: 1.0.1.5
Bugs fixed and new features:
1.NTSC & PAL mode resolution separation.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2005/08/30, Version: 1.0.1.4
Bugs fixed and new features:
1.AvgTimePerFrame.
2.Frame Drop.
3.Pinnacle inf file HCT chkinf fail.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2005/08/22, Version: 1.0.1.3
Bugs fixed and new features:
1.Add Remote controller interface in digital source filter.
2.A new Remote controller test tool with source code in \Test_RC.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2005/08/16, Version: 1.0.1.2
Bugs fixed and new features:
1.Reorg Pinnacel & Twinhan's driver & folder.
2.VP704A_BDA_Test tool, add system code test.
3.Set IR protocol standard by registry keys "IRSTANDARD", "IRSYSCODECHECK1"
in INF file.
4.Firmware update

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2005/08/15, Version: 1.0.1.1
Bugs fixed and new features:
1.Serial number function is lost while adjusting TV audio volume
2.RC6A CIR support
(This firmware uses GPIO3 (M9207 pin 80) to decode RC6 protocol.
The hardware should be reworked to connect M9207 pin 80 to CIR module and
the fimrware
EEPROM should be flashed with \Firmware\M9207.bin )
3.Serieal number, MAC address and OEM device name supported.
Please refer to further details in \Firmware\readme.txt.
4.Ioclt sample source code included.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2005/08/08, Version: 1.0.0.10
Bugs fixed and new features:
1.Analog TV audio volume increase.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2005/08/04, Version: 1.0.0.9
Bugs fixed and new features:
1.Analog TV Video mode set failure.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2005/08/03, Version: 1.0.0.8
Bugs fixed and new features:
1.Off-centerf requency scan +/- 125Khz
2.Fix duplicated program scanned in MCE.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2005/08/02, Version: 1.0.0.7
Bugs fixed and new features:
1.THBDAConsole.exe "ulFixedBW", "ulDisableOffFreqScan", "ulMCEFreqTranslate"
bug fixed

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2005/07/28, Version: 1.0.0.6
Bugs fixed and new features:
1.THBDAConsole.exe "ulFixedBW", "ulDisableOffFreqScan", "ulMCEFreqTranslate"
support
2.Improve I2C communication stability.
3.Unify Signal strength & quality indication as THBda ioctl interface.
4.Capture filter Lock status check.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2005/07/28, Version: 1.0.0.5
Bugs fixed and new features:
1. The same signal strength & quality indications as VP7046.
2. Debug build driver

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2005/07/21, Version: 1.0.0.4
Bugs fixed and new features:
1.Update INF.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2005/07/20, Version: 1.0.0.3
Bugs fixed and new features:
1.Improve performance in PCM4
2.Switching from Analog TV Mode to FM Mode failure

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2005/07/04, Version: 1.0.0.2
Bugs fixed and new features:
1.Production Tool FM test OK!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And here is the readme from the other file within the update ?

************************************************** ************************************************
ULi PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller Driver V1.72 for Windows 98 SE,
Windows ME , Windows 2000 and Windows XP
************************************************** ************************************************




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
INTRODUCTION

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This driver supports ULi EHCI host Controller under Windows 98 SE, Windows
ME , Windows 2000
and Windows XP.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CONTENTS OF THIS DOCUMENT

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Installation Instructions
2. Uninstallation Instructions

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1. Installation Instructions

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(Windows 98 SE & Windows ME)
A.When ULi USB 2.0 Controller has attached on system
1. Install ULi USB2.0 Driver
- Run the setup program.
- This program will copy driver files into your Windows system,then restart
your computer.
2. After system reboot, Windows will find the new hardware "ULi PCI to USB
Enhanced
Host Controller" and install the driver.

B.If no ULi USB 2.0 Controller on system
1. Install ULi USB2.0 Driver
- Run the setup program.
- This program will copy driver files into your Windows system, then turn
off your computer.
- Attach ULi USB 2.0 Controller card on your system and then reboot your
computer.
2. After system reboot, Windows will find the new hardware "ULi PCI to USB
Enhanced
Host Controller" and install the driver.

(Windows 2000)
A.When ULi USB 2.0 Controller has attached on system
1. Install ULi USB2.0 Driver
- Run the setup program.
- This program will install and load the driver and you don't have to reboot
the
computer.
B.If no ULi USB 2.0 Controller on system
1. Install ULi USB2.0 Driver
- Run the setup program.
- This program will copy driver files into your Windows system, then turn off
your computer.
- Attach ULi USB 2.0 Controller card on your system and then reboot your
computer.
2. After system reboot, Windows will find the new hardware "ULi PCI to USB
Enhanced
Host Controller" and install the driver.

(Windows XP)
A.When ULi USB 2.0 Controller has attached on system
1. Install ULi USB2.0 Driver
- Run the setup program.
- Click "NEXT"
- This program will install and load the driver and you don't have to reboot
the
computer.
- After install ULi USB 2.0 driver successfully. System will detect "USB 2.0
Root
Hub". Please select "install the software automatically (Recommended)" and
then
click "Next" button to continue install.
- This program will install and load the driver and you don't have to reboot
the
computer.
B.If no ULi USB 2.0 Controller on system
1. Install ULi USB2.0 Driver
- Run the setup program.
- This program will copy driver files into your Windows system, then turn off
your computer.
- Attach ULi USB 2.0 Controller card on your system and then reboot your
computer.
2. After system reboot, Windows will find the new hardware "ULi PCI to USB
Enhanced
Host Controller", continue to install.
- After install ULi USB 2.0 driver successfully. System will detect "USB 2.0
Root
Hub". Please select "install the software automatically (Recommended)" and
then
click "Next" button to continue install.

Notice:
If you can't setup driver successfully. Please reboot your system and then
follow
above steps to install driver again.



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2. Uninstallation Instructions

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1. Open "Control Panel" folder.
2. Invoke "Add\Remove Programs" icon.
3. Choose "ULi USB2.0 Driver" item.
4. Click on "Add/Remove" button to remove drivers.



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Change List:

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1.74
1.fix issue that multi-interface keyboard can not be detected on the usb2.0
hub.
2.support all USB2.0 Host Controller.
1.73
1.fix issue that On Win98SE , Blue screen when unplugging some USB2.0
Scanner after scanning image.
2.fix issue that On Win98SE, Blue screen when unplugging some USB2.0 Scanner
from USB 2.0 Hub after scanning image.
3.fix issue that On Win98SE, Blue screen while copying files across the
SUNBOX UH-204 Hub.
4.fix issue that wirless lan will disconect when plug-in usb device.

1.72
1.Fix issue that system will crash when USB HD copy large file.

1.71
1.improve Power management function in Win98/ME.

1.70
1.Improve the function of devcie detection.

1.62
1.Fix the problem that a USB floppy under USB 2.0 HUB cannot function when
system resume from suspend.

1.61
1.Fix the problem that some USB device under USB 2.0 HUB cannot be found if
system resume from suspend.

1.60
1.To support power management functions when a HUB with USB device plug into
a root HUB.

1.57
1.Fix USB floppy with USB 2.0 HUB can't be detect issue.
2.Fix issue that audio can't display smooth when USB device attach to system.
3.Fix system can't detect USB dvice when USB device attach to system in
suspend mode.
4.Fix issue that when USB root HUB have full loading, USB HD sometimes
transaction fail.

1.56
1. Fix issue that DVD decoder device can't display properly.

1.55
1. Fix OTI USB 2.0 hand drive can't be detect issue.
2. Fix USB mouse can't use after resume from suspend.

1.54
1.Improve driver security.

1.53
1. Fix bulk transfer may stop if USB device is plugged in USB 2.0 hub
2. Fix USB 2.0 mass storage device can't be access after resuming from
standby if there is another USB 1.1 device existing

1.52
1. Fix system pages fault when accessing mass storage device in Win98SE, or
scandisk failure when selecting
automatically fix file system errors
2. Fix system may hang up in Win98SE/ME if USB 2.0 cardbus card is plugged

v.1.51
1. Improve USB 2.0 cardreader compatibility.
2. Fix USB IDE devices can't be accessed after resuming from
standby/hibernation.

v1.50
1. Improve bulk transfer

v1.48
1. Fix USB 2.0 LAN driver installation hanging up
2. Fix some USB 1.1 cardreader can't be identified when plugged into USB 2.0
hub
3. Fix some laptops Win98SE booting hanging up

v1.47
1. Improve bulk transfer performance.
2. Fix USB 2.0 bulk webcam preview failure.

v1.46
1. Support USB 2.0 and 1.1 Isochronous devices
2. Fix system hanging up when rebooting system if USB 2.0 host controller is
disabled in Win9X/ME
3. Fix system hanging up when uninstalling driver if there are USB 2.0
devices connected in Win2K/XP
4. Improve device detection capability in Win9X/ME

v1.45
1. Fix system hanging up when resuming from ACPI sleep mode.
2. Fix mouse sometimes doesn't disappear when it's unplugged.
3. Fix Win9X composite device detection failure and improve Win2K/XP
composite device

v1.44
1. Support composite device
2. Improve device detection

v1.43
1. Improve IDE read/write transfer failure rate with USB 2.0 to IDE bridge
on PC card platform
2. Fix high-speed device detected as full-speed device
3. Fix some USB mouses detection failure problem
4. Fix some USB 2.0 hubs detection failure problem
5. Fix Win98SE crashing if ULi EHCI 1.42 is installed

v1.42
1. Fix PC Card ejection hanging up in Win98/ME
2. Fix suspend/resume hanging up in Win98
3. Solve sometimes USB 1.1 device can't be detected if OS boots with USB 2.0
and 1.1 devices plugged
4. Fix some PC Card USB 1.1 device detection failure

v1.41
1. Add new feature that system can install driver before device is plugged.
2. Fix PCMCIA OHCI controller resource assign issue on Windos ME.

v1.40
1. Support Win9X/ME/2K/XP with ULi USB 2.0 driver.
2. Fix PCMCIA EHCI controller detecting USB 2.0 device problem in Win9X/ME.

v1.32
1. Fix issue that driver can't detect Microsoft driver in Windows XP
if OS path is not c:\windows.
2. Fix issue that driver can't detect USB 2.0 controller device in in some
system.

v1.31
1. Fix issue that driver can't install on Windows 2000.

v1.30
1. Fix issue that Win9X/ME shows no USB 2.0 Root Hub.
2. Fix issue that hanging up when second entry into Win9X S1 with HID device
plugged.
3. Fix issue that sometimes when you click "Scan for hardware changes".
to PNP ULi USB2.0 controller, system will informs you the usbehci.sys
file can't be found.
4. Fix issue that v1.20 finds no EHCI controller to install driver for after
different
verison of ULi EHCI controller devices are plugged and unplugged.
5. Support installing driver for more than one ULi EHCI controller devices
existing on
system at the same time.
6. Fix Win2K/XP shows USB Root Hub for USB 2.0 Root Hub.

v1.20
1.Support ULi USB 2.0 Host controller driver for Windows 98SE/ME/2000/XP.

ULi Coporation. (ULi) web sites:
http://www.uli.com.tw/ (Taiwan)


CAN ANYONE TREAT ME LIKE A TWO YEAR OLD AND GIVE SOME GUIDANCE AS TO HOW TO
ACHIEVE THIS UPDATE .


i WOULD BE VERY GRATEFULL AND KIND OF THINK IT WOULD BE BENIFICIAL TO A LOT
MORE PEOPLE AS I SEE A LOT OF XP AND PROBLEMS OF THE KIND THIS UPDATE IS
SUPPOSED TO FIX .


PA Bear [MS MVP] 02-20-2009 10:30 PM

Re: Problems with Touchpad,keyboard and USB after Ideacom update (solu
 
See replies to your earlier thread(s).

Zelator wrote:
> I have Equium M50 (59E) and got bitten by an update that took out my
> touchpad and keyboard .I have made fresh install of XP Home and have all
> updated drivers and all is going well .The last update i cant seem to
> fathom is for Driver Ana _2005_10_24_V1.2 it is for ,Standard Open HCD USB
> Host Controller........X 2 .........
>
> The update fixes all kinds of issues of the kind i am having and is a
> recomended update from Driver detective ,that i use offten .
>
> The trouble is it says to uninstall drivers for the one i have installed
> allready and when i do this it knocks off my USB mouse leaving me not able
> to install the new ones .When i reboot it installs the ones i dont want
> reinstalled .
>
> This is the read me off the new update and realy it is beyond me to
> underdstand what to do ............so here it is ?
> Driver revision history:
> Twinhan VP704A Driver Release note
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Note:
> 1.In case the system crashes while running with VP704A, Please install ULI
> USB 2.0 host driver in \ULiUSB20Driver
>
> 2. For XP/SP1, please update with the patch in
> <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=zh-tw&familyid=733dd867-56a0-4956-b7fe-e85b688b7f86>
>
> 3.In XP/SP1, updating driver will crash the system, while new install is
> ok.
> The trick to update driver in XP/SP1 is shown in the following steps,
> a. Uninstall the driver
> b. Unplug and plug the USB device
> c. Install the driver
> 4. To support remote controller, please launch Agent.exe in \Agent.
> Further details can be found in \Agent\Readme.txt
>
> Known issues:
> 1. Multi-instance is not supported
> 2. Remote wakeup is not supported
> 3. High CPU usage in Analog audio/video capture
> 4. Bad VBI Signal using YUY2 color format
> 5. AV out of sync if audio captured from wrong filter.
> (Fix:using the filter "USB Audio Device" in WDM stream capture device)
> 6. Noise with analog-TV and FM Radio
> (Fix:using the filter "USB Audio Device" in WDM stream capture device)
>
> Driver revision history:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/10/24, Version: 1.0.2.8
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1.Crossbar not properly set.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/10/21, Version: 1.0.2.7
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1.Firmware version read from FLASH OK!
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/10/14, Version: 1.0.2.6
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1.Mutil-Access driver blank part below part screen when VBI!
> 2.Mutil-Access driver HCT driver verify crash fix!
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/10/07, Version: 1.0.2.5
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1.Tuner Power off when S-Video,Composite.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/09/30, Version: 1.0.2.4
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1.Agent.exe updated for repeat bug!
> 2.TI5150 Register for Video Format fix!
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/09/29, Version: 1.0.2.3
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1.A trial driver build for multiple access support. (in the folder
> "\Multi-Access")
> Note: "USB Audio device" filter provided by system does not support
> mutil-Access.
> 2.Reset TI5150 when a new frequency is set
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/09/27, Version: 1.0.2.2
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1.Fix I2C unstable access on some devices.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/09/23, Version: 1.0.2.1
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1.Analog TV becomes darker sometimes.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/09/15, Version: 1.0.2.0
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1.Fix INF for Windows 2000 installation.
> 2.FM radio scan policy changed!
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/09/13, Version: 1.0.1.9
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1.USB serial number string not visible with USBView, firmware update
> required.
> 2.FM radio scan policy, return unlock if PLLOffset>=9x12.5KHz
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/09/13, Version: 1.0.1.8
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1.After switching between A/D/AV several times, video display becomes dark
> in THDTV 2.61
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/09/12, Version: 1.0.1.7
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1.Improve channel lock status check performance
> 2.Pinnacle INF Fix.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/09/09, Version: 1.0.1.6
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1.Add some audio initialization function.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/08/31, Version: 1.0.1.5
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1.NTSC & PAL mode resolution separation.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/08/30, Version: 1.0.1.4
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1.AvgTimePerFrame.
> 2.Frame Drop.
> 3.Pinnacle inf file HCT chkinf fail.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/08/22, Version: 1.0.1.3
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1.Add Remote controller interface in digital source filter.
> 2.A new Remote controller test tool with source code in \Test_RC.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/08/16, Version: 1.0.1.2
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1.Reorg Pinnacel & Twinhan's driver & folder.
> 2.VP704A_BDA_Test tool, add system code test.
> 3.Set IR protocol standard by registry keys "IRSTANDARD",
> "IRSYSCODECHECK1"
> in INF file.
> 4.Firmware update
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/08/15, Version: 1.0.1.1
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1.Serial number function is lost while adjusting TV audio volume
> 2.RC6A CIR support
> (This firmware uses GPIO3 (M9207 pin 80) to decode RC6 protocol.
> The hardware should be reworked to connect M9207 pin 80 to CIR module and
> the fimrware
> EEPROM should be flashed with \Firmware\M9207.bin )
> 3.Serieal number, MAC address and OEM device name supported.
> Please refer to further details in \Firmware\readme.txt.
> 4.Ioclt sample source code included.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/08/08, Version: 1.0.0.10
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1.Analog TV audio volume increase.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/08/04, Version: 1.0.0.9
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1.Analog TV Video mode set failure.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/08/03, Version: 1.0.0.8
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1.Off-centerf requency scan +/- 125Khz
> 2.Fix duplicated program scanned in MCE.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/08/02, Version: 1.0.0.7
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1.THBDAConsole.exe "ulFixedBW", "ulDisableOffFreqScan",
> "ulMCEFreqTranslate"
> bug fixed
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/07/28, Version: 1.0.0.6
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1.THBDAConsole.exe "ulFixedBW", "ulDisableOffFreqScan",
> "ulMCEFreqTranslate"
> support
> 2.Improve I2C communication stability.
> 3.Unify Signal strength & quality indication as THBda ioctl interface.
> 4.Capture filter Lock status check.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/07/28, Version: 1.0.0.5
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1. The same signal strength & quality indications as VP7046.
> 2. Debug build driver
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/07/21, Version: 1.0.0.4
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1.Update INF.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/07/20, Version: 1.0.0.3
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1.Improve performance in PCM4
> 2.Switching from Analog TV Mode to FM Mode failure
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2005/07/04, Version: 1.0.0.2
> Bugs fixed and new features:
> 1.Production Tool FM test OK!
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> And here is the readme from the other file within the update ?
>
> ************************************************** ************************************************
> ULi PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller Driver V1.72 for Windows 98 SE,
> Windows ME , Windows 2000 and Windows XP
> ************************************************** ************************************************
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> INTRODUCTION
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> This driver supports ULi EHCI host Controller under Windows 98 SE, Windows
> ME , Windows 2000
> and Windows XP.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> CONTENTS OF THIS DOCUMENT
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 1. Installation Instructions
> 2. Uninstallation Instructions
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 1. Installation Instructions
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> (Windows 98 SE & Windows ME)
> A.When ULi USB 2.0 Controller has attached on system
> 1. Install ULi USB2.0 Driver
> - Run the setup program.
> - This program will copy driver files into your Windows system,then
> restart
> your computer.
> 2. After system reboot, Windows will find the new hardware "ULi PCI to USB
> Enhanced
> Host Controller" and install the driver.
>
> B.If no ULi USB 2.0 Controller on system
> 1. Install ULi USB2.0 Driver
> - Run the setup program.
> - This program will copy driver files into your Windows system, then turn
> off your computer.
> - Attach ULi USB 2.0 Controller card on your system and then reboot your
> computer.
> 2. After system reboot, Windows will find the new hardware "ULi PCI to USB
> Enhanced
> Host Controller" and install the driver.
>
> (Windows 2000)
> A.When ULi USB 2.0 Controller has attached on system
> 1. Install ULi USB2.0 Driver
> - Run the setup program.
> - This program will install and load the driver and you don't have to
> reboot
> the
> computer.
> B.If no ULi USB 2.0 Controller on system
> 1. Install ULi USB2.0 Driver
> - Run the setup program.
> - This program will copy driver files into your Windows system, then turn
> off your computer.
> - Attach ULi USB 2.0 Controller card on your system and then reboot your
> computer.
> 2. After system reboot, Windows will find the new hardware "ULi PCI to USB
> Enhanced
> Host Controller" and install the driver.
>
> (Windows XP)
> A.When ULi USB 2.0 Controller has attached on system
> 1. Install ULi USB2.0 Driver
> - Run the setup program.
> - Click "NEXT"
> - This program will install and load the driver and you don't have to
> reboot
> the
> computer.
> - After install ULi USB 2.0 driver successfully. System will detect "USB
> 2.0
> Root
> Hub". Please select "install the software automatically (Recommended)" and
> then
> click "Next" button to continue install.
> - This program will install and load the driver and you don't have to
> reboot
> the
> computer.
> B.If no ULi USB 2.0 Controller on system
> 1. Install ULi USB2.0 Driver
> - Run the setup program.
> - This program will copy driver files into your Windows system, then turn
> off your computer.
> - Attach ULi USB 2.0 Controller card on your system and then reboot your
> computer.
> 2. After system reboot, Windows will find the new hardware "ULi PCI to USB
> Enhanced
> Host Controller", continue to install.
> - After install ULi USB 2.0 driver successfully. System will detect "USB
> 2.0
> Root
> Hub". Please select "install the software automatically (Recommended)" and
> then
> click "Next" button to continue install.
>
> Notice:
> If you can't setup driver successfully. Please reboot your system and then
> follow
> above steps to install driver again.
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2. Uninstallation Instructions
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 1. Open "Control Panel" folder.
> 2. Invoke "Add\Remove Programs" icon.
> 3. Choose "ULi USB2.0 Driver" item.
> 4. Click on "Add/Remove" button to remove drivers.
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Change List:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 1.74
> 1.fix issue that multi-interface keyboard can not be detected on the
> usb2.0
> hub.
> 2.support all USB2.0 Host Controller.
> 1.73
> 1.fix issue that On Win98SE , Blue screen when unplugging some USB2.0
> Scanner after scanning image.
> 2.fix issue that On Win98SE, Blue screen when unplugging some USB2.0
> Scanner
> from USB 2.0 Hub after scanning image.
> 3.fix issue that On Win98SE, Blue screen while copying files across the
> SUNBOX UH-204 Hub.
> 4.fix issue that wirless lan will disconect when plug-in usb device.
>
> 1.72
> 1.Fix issue that system will crash when USB HD copy large file.
>
> 1.71
> 1.improve Power management function in Win98/ME.
>
> 1.70
> 1.Improve the function of devcie detection.
>
> 1.62
> 1.Fix the problem that a USB floppy under USB 2.0 HUB cannot function when
> system resume from suspend.
>
> 1.61
> 1.Fix the problem that some USB device under USB 2.0 HUB cannot be found
> if
> system resume from suspend.
>
> 1.60
> 1.To support power management functions when a HUB with USB device plug
> into
> a root HUB.
>
> 1.57
> 1.Fix USB floppy with USB 2.0 HUB can't be detect issue.
> 2.Fix issue that audio can't display smooth when USB device attach to
> system.
> 3.Fix system can't detect USB dvice when USB device attach to system in
> suspend mode.
> 4.Fix issue that when USB root HUB have full loading, USB HD sometimes
> transaction fail.
>
> 1.56
> 1. Fix issue that DVD decoder device can't display properly.
>
> 1.55
> 1. Fix OTI USB 2.0 hand drive can't be detect issue.
> 2. Fix USB mouse can't use after resume from suspend.
>
> 1.54
> 1.Improve driver security.
>
> 1.53
> 1. Fix bulk transfer may stop if USB device is plugged in USB 2.0 hub
> 2. Fix USB 2.0 mass storage device can't be access after resuming from
> standby if there is another USB 1.1 device existing
>
> 1.52
> 1. Fix system pages fault when accessing mass storage device in Win98SE,
> or
> scandisk failure when selecting
> automatically fix file system errors
> 2. Fix system may hang up in Win98SE/ME if USB 2.0 cardbus card is plugged
>
> v.1.51
> 1. Improve USB 2.0 cardreader compatibility.
> 2. Fix USB IDE devices can't be accessed after resuming from
> standby/hibernation.
>
> v1.50
> 1. Improve bulk transfer
>
> v1.48
> 1. Fix USB 2.0 LAN driver installation hanging up
> 2. Fix some USB 1.1 cardreader can't be identified when plugged into USB
> 2.0
> hub
> 3. Fix some laptops Win98SE booting hanging up
>
> v1.47
> 1. Improve bulk transfer performance.
> 2. Fix USB 2.0 bulk webcam preview failure.
>
> v1.46
> 1. Support USB 2.0 and 1.1 Isochronous devices
> 2. Fix system hanging up when rebooting system if USB 2.0 host controller
> is
> disabled in Win9X/ME
> 3. Fix system hanging up when uninstalling driver if there are USB 2.0
> devices connected in Win2K/XP
> 4. Improve device detection capability in Win9X/ME
>
> v1.45
> 1. Fix system hanging up when resuming from ACPI sleep mode.
> 2. Fix mouse sometimes doesn't disappear when it's unplugged.
> 3. Fix Win9X composite device detection failure and improve Win2K/XP
> composite device
>
> v1.44
> 1. Support composite device
> 2. Improve device detection
>
> v1.43
> 1. Improve IDE read/write transfer failure rate with USB 2.0 to IDE bridge
> on PC card platform
> 2. Fix high-speed device detected as full-speed device
> 3. Fix some USB mouses detection failure problem
> 4. Fix some USB 2.0 hubs detection failure problem
> 5. Fix Win98SE crashing if ULi EHCI 1.42 is installed
>
> v1.42
> 1. Fix PC Card ejection hanging up in Win98/ME
> 2. Fix suspend/resume hanging up in Win98
> 3. Solve sometimes USB 1.1 device can't be detected if OS boots with USB
> 2.0
> and 1.1 devices plugged
> 4. Fix some PC Card USB 1.1 device detection failure
>
> v1.41
> 1. Add new feature that system can install driver before device is
> plugged.
> 2. Fix PCMCIA OHCI controller resource assign issue on Windos ME.
>
> v1.40
> 1. Support Win9X/ME/2K/XP with ULi USB 2.0 driver.
> 2. Fix PCMCIA EHCI controller detecting USB 2.0 device problem in
> Win9X/ME.
>
> v1.32
> 1. Fix issue that driver can't detect Microsoft driver in Windows XP
> if OS path is not c:\windows.
> 2. Fix issue that driver can't detect USB 2.0 controller device in in some
> system.
>
> v1.31
> 1. Fix issue that driver can't install on Windows 2000.
>
> v1.30
> 1. Fix issue that Win9X/ME shows no USB 2.0 Root Hub.
> 2. Fix issue that hanging up when second entry into Win9X S1 with HID
> device
> plugged.
> 3. Fix issue that sometimes when you click "Scan for hardware changes".
> to PNP ULi USB2.0 controller, system will informs you the usbehci.sys
> file can't be found.
> 4. Fix issue that v1.20 finds no EHCI controller to install driver for
> after
> different
> verison of ULi EHCI controller devices are plugged and unplugged.
> 5. Support installing driver for more than one ULi EHCI controller devices
> existing on
> system at the same time.
> 6. Fix Win2K/XP shows USB Root Hub for USB 2.0 Root Hub.
>
> v1.20
> 1.Support ULi USB 2.0 Host controller driver for Windows 98SE/ME/2000/XP.
>
> ULi Coporation. (ULi) web sites:
> http://www.uli.com.tw/ (Taiwan)
>
>
> CAN ANYONE TREAT ME LIKE A TWO YEAR OLD AND GIVE SOME GUIDANCE AS TO HOW
> TO
> ACHIEVE THIS UPDATE .
>
>
> i WOULD BE VERY GRATEFULL AND KIND OF THINK IT WOULD BE BENIFICIAL TO A
> LOT
> MORE PEOPLE AS I SEE A LOT OF XP AND PROBLEMS OF THE KIND THIS UPDATE IS
> SUPPOSED TO FIX .



Paul 02-20-2009 10:30 PM

Re: Problems with Touchpad,keyboard and USB after Ideacom update(solu
 
Zelator wrote:
> I have Equium M50 (59E) and got bitten by an update that took out my touchpad
> and keyboard .I have made fresh install of XP Home and have all updated
> drivers and all is going well .The last update i cant seem to fathom is for
> Driver Ana _2005_10_24_V1.2 it is for ,Standard Open HCD USB Host
> Controller........X 2 .........
>
> The update fixes all kinds of issues of the kind i am having and is a
> recomended update from Driver detective ,that i use offten .
>
> The trouble is it says to uninstall drivers for the one i have installed
> allready and when i do this it knocks off my USB mouse leaving me not able to
> install the new ones .When i reboot it installs the ones i dont want
> reinstalled .
>
> This is the read me off the new update and realy it is beyond me to
> underdstand what to do ............so here it is ?


"Twinhan VP704A Driver Release note"

http://driveragent.com/archive/10277/2-0-19

> And here is the readme from the other file within the update ?


http://driveragent.com/archive/10277/13-0-53

The actual archive 10277 contents are shown here. This will make it
easier for others to understand what you're talking about.

http://driveragent.com/archive/10277#preview

> CAN ANYONE TREAT ME LIKE A TWO YEAR OLD AND GIVE SOME GUIDANCE AS TO HOW TO
> ACHIEVE THIS UPDATE .
>
>
> i WOULD BE VERY GRATEFULL AND KIND OF THINK IT WOULD BE BENIFICIAL TO A LOT
> MORE PEOPLE AS I SEE A LOT OF XP AND PROBLEMS OF THE KIND THIS UPDATE IS
> SUPPOSED TO FIX .
>


I removed the posted text, and substituted the URLs of the web pages
you are referring to. This might make it easier for people to understand
what you're attempting to do.

You're attempting to take part of a driver package for a
Twinhan VP704A and apply it to a Toshiba Equium (Satellite) M50
whose sub-model I cannot find.

More later.

Paul

Paul 02-21-2009 01:30 AM

Re: Problems with Touchpad,keyboard and USB after Ideacom update(solu
 
Zelator wrote:
> I have Equium M50 (59E) and got bitten by an update that took out my touchpad
> and keyboard .I have made fresh install of XP Home and have all updated
> drivers and all is going well .The last update i cant seem to fathom is for
> Driver Ana _2005_10_24_V1.2 it is for ,Standard Open HCD USB Host
> Controller........X 2 .........
>
> The update fixes all kinds of issues of the kind i am having and is a
> recomended update from Driver detective ,that i use offten .
>
> The trouble is it says to uninstall drivers for the one i have installed
> allready and when i do this it knocks off my USB mouse leaving me not able to
> install the new ones .When i reboot it installs the ones i dont want
> reinstalled .
>
> This is the read me off the new update and realy it is beyond me to
> underdstand what to do ............so here it is ?


"Twinhan VP704A Driver Release note"

http://driveragent.com/archive/10277/2-0-19

>
> And here is the readme from the other file within the update ?
>


http://driveragent.com/archive/10277/13-0-53

The actual archive 10277 contents are shown here. This will make it
easier for others to understand what you're talking about.

http://driveragent.com/archive/10277#preview

>
>
> CAN ANYONE TREAT ME LIKE A TWO YEAR OLD AND GIVE SOME GUIDANCE AS TO HOW TO
> ACHIEVE THIS UPDATE .
>
>
> i WOULD BE VERY GRATEFULL AND KIND OF THINK IT WOULD BE BENIFICIAL TO A LOT
> MORE PEOPLE AS I SEE A LOT OF XP AND PROBLEMS OF THE KIND THIS UPDATE IS
> SUPPOSED TO FIX .
>


*******

You say you have a Toshiba Equium M50 (59E). Toshiba calls them Equium
in Europe and calls them Satellite elsewhere. I seem to see references
to things like M50-244, so it would seem they use a number for the
sub-model. I haven't found any reference to 59E, which might stand for
"59 Europe".

I would have started with a Toshiba website, such as csd.toshiba.com,
if I could find the model of the computer there. As it is, I have no
place to start.

It would really help a lot, to know what Northbridge and Southbridge
the computer uses. Since I am unable to find the model using ordinary
web searches, I cannot find out this information. You have the computer
in front of you, could use Belarc Advisor or Everest Free Home edition
or other tools, to get some information. The following is my guess...

In terms of your chipset, I think the inside of your computer has an
unfortunate combination of silicon. It likely uses an ATI Xpress Northbridge
and a ULI Southbridge (M1575 ???). There was a point in time, where ATI didn't
have a Southbridge ready, to go with their new Northbridge. They used one
from ULI. As you can imagine, this muddies the driver support issue.
ATI is responsible for providing a driver, but the chip itself
comes from ULI. The worst thing that happened, was Nvidia (direct
competitor of ATI), bought ULI Corporation and crushed them. No
more ULI branded products are produced and ULI no longer exists.

http://www.techreport.com/discussions/8201

This is the Twinhan driver that you quote. It has enough files
to do an INF style install, which means there is no Add/Remove
option later. So a bad idea.

http://www.twinhan.com/files/AW/BDA%...V1.28_WHQL.zip

Now, if I go here, and download "integrated 220" at the top,
it lists M1575 and USB. Yet, when I look inside, the support
of M1575 is less certain.

http://www.nvidia.com/page/uli_drivers.html

This is the file I downloaded.

http://http.download.nvidia.com/ULi/...egrated220.zip

In the USB20 folder of that download, are things similar to the
TwinHan directory. The AliEhci.inf mentions "VEN_10B9&DEV_5239".
I compare that to the master list of available PCI device info.
It does indeed seem to be a USB2 controller.

http://pciids.sourceforge.net/pci.ids

10b9 ALi Corporation (Acer labs --> ALI --> ULI --> Nvidia)
5239 USB 2.0 Controller

Now, a word about USB2 (Enhanced Host Controller Interface). Before
WinXP SP1, they were in the process of developing a driver for
USB2 hardware. When SP1 was officially released, Microsoft revoked
the license of hardware manufacturers, to release USB2 drivers for
their hardware. This means, that Microsoft took responsibility.
The idea was, that any customer that wanted a USB2 driver, would
get it by installing SP1. That means, if your WinXP installer
disc is SP1, SP2, or SP3, in theory you get a USB2 driver, a standard
one delivered by Microsoft.

The hardware manufacturers make register-compatible USB2 hardware,
and the Microsoft driver magically runs on top of it. That is called
"the beauty of standards". No more grubbing for drivers.

And this means, if you have a WinXP SP1 or later installer CD, the
standard driver *should* be present.

You could check Device Manager, and look for an Enhanced entry in the
Universal Serial Bus Controllers section. Then, check to see what
driver files are installed. If there is something already there, like
usbehci.sys, usbhub.sys, usbport.sys and the like, then chances
are you already have a driver.

If, on the other hand, you've installed whatever Service Pack you
intend to run (SP1, SP2, or SP3), and there is a yellow mark in
Device Manager, for VEN_10B9&DEV_5239, then that means somehow
the standard driver does not cover your hardware. (And that is
hard to believe.)

I tried looking through the contents of my i386 folder (the one
WinXP installer uses). It has 5000 files, and many are compressed.
By decompressing a few .IN_ (compressed INF files), I could look
to see what hardware was supported. I did find VEN_10B9&DEV_5237,
which is a ULI USB 1.1 controller, but not the USB 2 controller.
I don't understand how a Service Pack incorporates newer hardware,
and expect that is why I cannot find it. Microsoft probably has
included it, but I don't understand the mechanism used to update
the files on the computer during the install.

In summary

1) Check Device Manager. Have an "Enhanced" entry in the USB
section at the bottom ? Do the listed drivers for that device
make sense ? Then you don't need a driver. It is already installed.

2) If you've exhausted all other possibilities, then and only then,
should you contemplate using "ULi_Integrated220.zip". And if you
do choose to use that one, there is probably a screen with
tick boxes, to select driver components. Only tick the USB one!
You don't want more trouble than you've already got. Typically,
with an installer like this, you should have an entry in Add/Remove
to remove it later.

HTH,
Paul

Zelator 02-21-2009 02:30 AM

Re: Problems with Touchpad,keyboard and USB after Ideacom update (
 
WOW is all i got to say ;-) right i'll do my best .

What i got is a Equium M50-192
PSM59E
I down loaded from Toshiba europe driver support downloads under archived .

After installing all downloads i had no ! on any .....but i still had no
touchpad even seemingly instaled anywhere on laptop......and i had to do the
standby thing to make the keyboard work .

So i used the program DRIVER DETECTIVE and it showed that 9 of my drivers
were out of date ...............so i installed them all except the one that
says no device found (when i open the readme file in that update it says the
trick is to uninstall the drivers first before updating with this one ).
I just find it strange that it is the USB +touchpad+keyboard things that are
playing up .............and that is what Driver detective is saying needs
updated .


So am i right in that you are saying open the updated file i have saved to
desk top and within that file is a load of other files with one that says
driver setup (this is the one that says cannot setup because other drivers
are installed ) but the read me says to set up the Uli thing first in case
system crashes (thats the bit that scares me lol ) .
But it is still leaving me with the problem that i cannot uninstall present
drivers for this because my mouse goes off and i cannot update the new
drivers then .

I'm probably sounding as dumb as i feel but i'm usually quit competent with
all this its just that without the ability to move the cursor i'm stumped
...............could i access it from my other laptop also a Toshiba but with
Vista onit .

By the way thanks alot for your time i realy appreciate it and just wish i
could give more detail .

"Paul" wrote:

> Zelator wrote:
> > I have Equium M50 (59E) and got bitten by an update that took out my touchpad
> > and keyboard .I have made fresh install of XP Home and have all updated
> > drivers and all is going well .The last update i cant seem to fathom is for
> > Driver Ana _2005_10_24_V1.2 it is for ,Standard Open HCD USB Host
> > Controller........X 2 .........
> >
> > The update fixes all kinds of issues of the kind i am having and is a
> > recomended update from Driver detective ,that i use offten .
> >
> > The trouble is it says to uninstall drivers for the one i have installed
> > allready and when i do this it knocks off my USB mouse leaving me not able to
> > install the new ones .When i reboot it installs the ones i dont want
> > reinstalled .
> >
> > This is the read me off the new update and realy it is beyond me to
> > underdstand what to do ............so here it is ?

>
> "Twinhan VP704A Driver Release note"
>
> http://driveragent.com/archive/10277/2-0-19
>
> >
> > And here is the readme from the other file within the update ?
> >

>
> http://driveragent.com/archive/10277/13-0-53
>
> The actual archive 10277 contents are shown here. This will make it
> easier for others to understand what you're talking about.
>
> http://driveragent.com/archive/10277#preview
>
> >
> >
> > CAN ANYONE TREAT ME LIKE A TWO YEAR OLD AND GIVE SOME GUIDANCE AS TO HOW TO
> > ACHIEVE THIS UPDATE .
> >
> >
> > i WOULD BE VERY GRATEFULL AND KIND OF THINK IT WOULD BE BENIFICIAL TO A LOT
> > MORE PEOPLE AS I SEE A LOT OF XP AND PROBLEMS OF THE KIND THIS UPDATE IS
> > SUPPOSED TO FIX .
> >

>
> *******
>
> You say you have a Toshiba Equium M50 (59E). Toshiba calls them Equium
> in Europe and calls them Satellite elsewhere. I seem to see references
> to things like M50-244, so it would seem they use a number for the
> sub-model. I haven't found any reference to 59E, which might stand for
> "59 Europe".
>
> I would have started with a Toshiba website, such as csd.toshiba.com,
> if I could find the model of the computer there. As it is, I have no
> place to start.
>
> It would really help a lot, to know what Northbridge and Southbridge
> the computer uses. Since I am unable to find the model using ordinary
> web searches, I cannot find out this information. You have the computer
> in front of you, could use Belarc Advisor or Everest Free Home edition
> or other tools, to get some information. The following is my guess...
>
> In terms of your chipset, I think the inside of your computer has an
> unfortunate combination of silicon. It likely uses an ATI Xpress Northbridge
> and a ULI Southbridge (M1575 ???). There was a point in time, where ATI didn't
> have a Southbridge ready, to go with their new Northbridge. They used one
> from ULI. As you can imagine, this muddies the driver support issue.
> ATI is responsible for providing a driver, but the chip itself
> comes from ULI. The worst thing that happened, was Nvidia (direct
> competitor of ATI), bought ULI Corporation and crushed them. No
> more ULI branded products are produced and ULI no longer exists.
>
> http://www.techreport.com/discussions/8201
>
> This is the Twinhan driver that you quote. It has enough files
> to do an INF style install, which means there is no Add/Remove
> option later. So a bad idea.
>
> http://www.twinhan.com/files/AW/BDA%...V1.28_WHQL.zip
>
> Now, if I go here, and download "integrated 220" at the top,
> it lists M1575 and USB. Yet, when I look inside, the support
> of M1575 is less certain.
>
> http://www.nvidia.com/page/uli_drivers.html
>
> This is the file I downloaded.
>
> http://http.download.nvidia.com/ULi/...egrated220.zip
>
> In the USB20 folder of that download, are things similar to the
> TwinHan directory. The AliEhci.inf mentions "VEN_10B9&DEV_5239".
> I compare that to the master list of available PCI device info.
> It does indeed seem to be a USB2 controller.
>
> http://pciids.sourceforge.net/pci.ids
>
> 10b9 ALi Corporation (Acer labs --> ALI --> ULI --> Nvidia)
> 5239 USB 2.0 Controller
>
> Now, a word about USB2 (Enhanced Host Controller Interface). Before
> WinXP SP1, they were in the process of developing a driver for
> USB2 hardware. When SP1 was officially released, Microsoft revoked
> the license of hardware manufacturers, to release USB2 drivers for
> their hardware. This means, that Microsoft took responsibility.
> The idea was, that any customer that wanted a USB2 driver, would
> get it by installing SP1. That means, if your WinXP installer
> disc is SP1, SP2, or SP3, in theory you get a USB2 driver, a standard
> one delivered by Microsoft.
>
> The hardware manufacturers make register-compatible USB2 hardware,
> and the Microsoft driver magically runs on top of it. That is called
> "the beauty of standards". No more grubbing for drivers.
>
> And this means, if you have a WinXP SP1 or later installer CD, the
> standard driver *should* be present.
>
> You could check Device Manager, and look for an Enhanced entry in the
> Universal Serial Bus Controllers section. Then, check to see what
> driver files are installed. If there is something already there, like
> usbehci.sys, usbhub.sys, usbport.sys and the like, then chances
> are you already have a driver.
>
> If, on the other hand, you've installed whatever Service Pack you
> intend to run (SP1, SP2, or SP3), and there is a yellow mark in
> Device Manager, for VEN_10B9&DEV_5239, then that means somehow
> the standard driver does not cover your hardware. (And that is
> hard to believe.)
>
> I tried looking through the contents of my i386 folder (the one
> WinXP installer uses). It has 5000 files, and many are compressed.
> By decompressing a few .IN_ (compressed INF files), I could look
> to see what hardware was supported. I did find VEN_10B9&DEV_5237,
> which is a ULI USB 1.1 controller, but not the USB 2 controller.
> I don't understand how a Service Pack incorporates newer hardware,
> and expect that is why I cannot find it. Microsoft probably has
> included it, but I don't understand the mechanism used to update
> the files on the computer during the install.
>
> In summary
>
> 1) Check Device Manager. Have an "Enhanced" entry in the USB
> section at the bottom ? Do the listed drivers for that device
> make sense ? Then you don't need a driver. It is already installed.
>
> 2) If you've exhausted all other possibilities, then and only then,
> should you contemplate using "ULi_Integrated220.zip". And if you
> do choose to use that one, there is probably a screen with
> tick boxes, to select driver components. Only tick the USB one!
> You don't want more trouble than you've already got. Typically,
> with an installer like this, you should have an entry in Add/Remove
> to remove it later.
>
> HTH,
> Paul
>


Zelator 02-21-2009 02:30 AM

Re: Problems with Touchpad,keyboard and USB after Ideacom update (
 
By the way also i have got the alps divice showing in device manager but it
is hidden with a question mark ............and also a hidden none USB device
with a question mark (serial ) but this one has no option for a driver (i'm
guessing this is keyboard issue having to standby then bring out of standby
to keep it working .It is working untill i press a key then it goes off
......because the fn lights up when i press it .)

"Zelator" wrote:

> WOW is all i got to say ;-) right i'll do my best .
>
> What i got is a Equium M50-192
> PSM59E
> I down loaded from Toshiba europe driver support downloads under archived .
>
> After installing all downloads i had no ! on any .....but i still had no
> touchpad even seemingly instaled anywhere on laptop......and i had to do the
> standby thing to make the keyboard work .
>
> So i used the program DRIVER DETECTIVE and it showed that 9 of my drivers
> were out of date ...............so i installed them all except the one that
> says no device found (when i open the readme file in that update it says the
> trick is to uninstall the drivers first before updating with this one ).
> I just find it strange that it is the USB +touchpad+keyboard things that are
> playing up .............and that is what Driver detective is saying needs
> updated .
>
>
> So am i right in that you are saying open the updated file i have saved to
> desk top and within that file is a load of other files with one that says
> driver setup (this is the one that says cannot setup because other drivers
> are installed ) but the read me says to set up the Uli thing first in case
> system crashes (thats the bit that scares me lol ) .
> But it is still leaving me with the problem that i cannot uninstall present
> drivers for this because my mouse goes off and i cannot update the new
> drivers then .
>
> I'm probably sounding as dumb as i feel but i'm usually quit competent with
> all this its just that without the ability to move the cursor i'm stumped
> ..............could i access it from my other laptop also a Toshiba but with
> Vista onit .
>
> By the way thanks alot for your time i realy appreciate it and just wish i
> could give more detail .
>
> "Paul" wrote:
>
> > Zelator wrote:
> > > I have Equium M50 (59E) and got bitten by an update that took out my touchpad
> > > and keyboard .I have made fresh install of XP Home and have all updated
> > > drivers and all is going well .The last update i cant seem to fathom is for
> > > Driver Ana _2005_10_24_V1.2 it is for ,Standard Open HCD USB Host
> > > Controller........X 2 .........
> > >
> > > The update fixes all kinds of issues of the kind i am having and is a
> > > recomended update from Driver detective ,that i use offten .
> > >
> > > The trouble is it says to uninstall drivers for the one i have installed
> > > allready and when i do this it knocks off my USB mouse leaving me not able to
> > > install the new ones .When i reboot it installs the ones i dont want
> > > reinstalled .
> > >
> > > This is the read me off the new update and realy it is beyond me to
> > > underdstand what to do ............so here it is ?

> >
> > "Twinhan VP704A Driver Release note"
> >
> > http://driveragent.com/archive/10277/2-0-19
> >
> > >
> > > And here is the readme from the other file within the update ?
> > >

> >
> > http://driveragent.com/archive/10277/13-0-53
> >
> > The actual archive 10277 contents are shown here. This will make it
> > easier for others to understand what you're talking about.
> >
> > http://driveragent.com/archive/10277#preview
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > CAN ANYONE TREAT ME LIKE A TWO YEAR OLD AND GIVE SOME GUIDANCE AS TO HOW TO
> > > ACHIEVE THIS UPDATE .
> > >
> > >
> > > i WOULD BE VERY GRATEFULL AND KIND OF THINK IT WOULD BE BENIFICIAL TO A LOT
> > > MORE PEOPLE AS I SEE A LOT OF XP AND PROBLEMS OF THE KIND THIS UPDATE IS
> > > SUPPOSED TO FIX .
> > >

> >
> > *******
> >
> > You say you have a Toshiba Equium M50 (59E). Toshiba calls them Equium
> > in Europe and calls them Satellite elsewhere. I seem to see references
> > to things like M50-244, so it would seem they use a number for the
> > sub-model. I haven't found any reference to 59E, which might stand for
> > "59 Europe".
> >
> > I would have started with a Toshiba website, such as csd.toshiba.com,
> > if I could find the model of the computer there. As it is, I have no
> > place to start.
> >
> > It would really help a lot, to know what Northbridge and Southbridge
> > the computer uses. Since I am unable to find the model using ordinary
> > web searches, I cannot find out this information. You have the computer
> > in front of you, could use Belarc Advisor or Everest Free Home edition
> > or other tools, to get some information. The following is my guess...
> >
> > In terms of your chipset, I think the inside of your computer has an
> > unfortunate combination of silicon. It likely uses an ATI Xpress Northbridge
> > and a ULI Southbridge (M1575 ???). There was a point in time, where ATI didn't
> > have a Southbridge ready, to go with their new Northbridge. They used one
> > from ULI. As you can imagine, this muddies the driver support issue.
> > ATI is responsible for providing a driver, but the chip itself
> > comes from ULI. The worst thing that happened, was Nvidia (direct
> > competitor of ATI), bought ULI Corporation and crushed them. No
> > more ULI branded products are produced and ULI no longer exists.
> >
> > http://www.techreport.com/discussions/8201
> >
> > This is the Twinhan driver that you quote. It has enough files
> > to do an INF style install, which means there is no Add/Remove
> > option later. So a bad idea.
> >
> > http://www.twinhan.com/files/AW/BDA%...V1.28_WHQL.zip
> >
> > Now, if I go here, and download "integrated 220" at the top,
> > it lists M1575 and USB. Yet, when I look inside, the support
> > of M1575 is less certain.
> >
> > http://www.nvidia.com/page/uli_drivers.html
> >
> > This is the file I downloaded.
> >
> > http://http.download.nvidia.com/ULi/...egrated220.zip
> >
> > In the USB20 folder of that download, are things similar to the
> > TwinHan directory. The AliEhci.inf mentions "VEN_10B9&DEV_5239".
> > I compare that to the master list of available PCI device info.
> > It does indeed seem to be a USB2 controller.
> >
> > http://pciids.sourceforge.net/pci.ids
> >
> > 10b9 ALi Corporation (Acer labs --> ALI --> ULI --> Nvidia)
> > 5239 USB 2.0 Controller
> >
> > Now, a word about USB2 (Enhanced Host Controller Interface). Before
> > WinXP SP1, they were in the process of developing a driver for
> > USB2 hardware. When SP1 was officially released, Microsoft revoked
> > the license of hardware manufacturers, to release USB2 drivers for
> > their hardware. This means, that Microsoft took responsibility.
> > The idea was, that any customer that wanted a USB2 driver, would
> > get it by installing SP1. That means, if your WinXP installer
> > disc is SP1, SP2, or SP3, in theory you get a USB2 driver, a standard
> > one delivered by Microsoft.
> >
> > The hardware manufacturers make register-compatible USB2 hardware,
> > and the Microsoft driver magically runs on top of it. That is called
> > "the beauty of standards". No more grubbing for drivers.
> >
> > And this means, if you have a WinXP SP1 or later installer CD, the
> > standard driver *should* be present.
> >
> > You could check Device Manager, and look for an Enhanced entry in the
> > Universal Serial Bus Controllers section. Then, check to see what
> > driver files are installed. If there is something already there, like
> > usbehci.sys, usbhub.sys, usbport.sys and the like, then chances
> > are you already have a driver.
> >
> > If, on the other hand, you've installed whatever Service Pack you
> > intend to run (SP1, SP2, or SP3), and there is a yellow mark in
> > Device Manager, for VEN_10B9&DEV_5239, then that means somehow
> > the standard driver does not cover your hardware. (And that is
> > hard to believe.)
> >
> > I tried looking through the contents of my i386 folder (the one
> > WinXP installer uses). It has 5000 files, and many are compressed.
> > By decompressing a few .IN_ (compressed INF files), I could look
> > to see what hardware was supported. I did find VEN_10B9&DEV_5237,
> > which is a ULI USB 1.1 controller, but not the USB 2 controller.
> > I don't understand how a Service Pack incorporates newer hardware,
> > and expect that is why I cannot find it. Microsoft probably has
> > included it, but I don't understand the mechanism used to update
> > the files on the computer during the install.
> >
> > In summary
> >
> > 1) Check Device Manager. Have an "Enhanced" entry in the USB
> > section at the bottom ? Do the listed drivers for that device
> > make sense ? Then you don't need a driver. It is already installed.
> >
> > 2) If you've exhausted all other possibilities, then and only then,
> > should you contemplate using "ULi_Integrated220.zip". And if you
> > do choose to use that one, there is probably a screen with
> > tick boxes, to select driver components. Only tick the USB one!
> > You don't want more trouble than you've already got. Typically,
> > with an installer like this, you should have an entry in Add/Remove
> > to remove it later.
> >
> > HTH,
> > Paul
> >


Zelator 02-21-2009 02:30 AM

Re: Problems with Touchpad,keyboard and USB after Ideacom update (
 
I think the penny has just dropped as i think what it is saying is install
the uli first then uninstal drivers and my mouse will not go off (by crash it
means my mouse will stop working )( but wont if i use uli first )

just smile back at me if i'm right ;-)then this one can close

"Zelator" wrote:

> By the way also i have got the alps divice showing in device manager but it
> is hidden with a question mark ............and also a hidden none USB device
> with a question mark (serial ) but this one has no option for a driver (i'm
> guessing this is keyboard issue having to standby then bring out of standby
> to keep it working .It is working untill i press a key then it goes off
> .....because the fn lights up when i press it .)
>
> "Zelator" wrote:
>
> > WOW is all i got to say ;-) right i'll do my best .
> >
> > What i got is a Equium M50-192
> > PSM59E
> > I down loaded from Toshiba europe driver support downloads under archived .
> >
> > After installing all downloads i had no ! on any .....but i still had no
> > touchpad even seemingly instaled anywhere on laptop......and i had to do the
> > standby thing to make the keyboard work .
> >
> > So i used the program DRIVER DETECTIVE and it showed that 9 of my drivers
> > were out of date ...............so i installed them all except the one that
> > says no device found (when i open the readme file in that update it says the
> > trick is to uninstall the drivers first before updating with this one ).
> > I just find it strange that it is the USB +touchpad+keyboard things that are
> > playing up .............and that is what Driver detective is saying needs
> > updated .
> >
> >
> > So am i right in that you are saying open the updated file i have saved to
> > desk top and within that file is a load of other files with one that says
> > driver setup (this is the one that says cannot setup because other drivers
> > are installed ) but the read me says to set up the Uli thing first in case
> > system crashes (thats the bit that scares me lol ) .
> > But it is still leaving me with the problem that i cannot uninstall present
> > drivers for this because my mouse goes off and i cannot update the new
> > drivers then .
> >
> > I'm probably sounding as dumb as i feel but i'm usually quit competent with
> > all this its just that without the ability to move the cursor i'm stumped
> > ..............could i access it from my other laptop also a Toshiba but with
> > Vista onit .
> >
> > By the way thanks alot for your time i realy appreciate it and just wish i
> > could give more detail .
> >
> > "Paul" wrote:
> >
> > > Zelator wrote:
> > > > I have Equium M50 (59E) and got bitten by an update that took out my touchpad
> > > > and keyboard .I have made fresh install of XP Home and have all updated
> > > > drivers and all is going well .The last update i cant seem to fathom is for
> > > > Driver Ana _2005_10_24_V1.2 it is for ,Standard Open HCD USB Host
> > > > Controller........X 2 .........
> > > >
> > > > The update fixes all kinds of issues of the kind i am having and is a
> > > > recomended update from Driver detective ,that i use offten .
> > > >
> > > > The trouble is it says to uninstall drivers for the one i have installed
> > > > allready and when i do this it knocks off my USB mouse leaving me not able to
> > > > install the new ones .When i reboot it installs the ones i dont want
> > > > reinstalled .
> > > >
> > > > This is the read me off the new update and realy it is beyond me to
> > > > underdstand what to do ............so here it is ?
> > >
> > > "Twinhan VP704A Driver Release note"
> > >
> > > http://driveragent.com/archive/10277/2-0-19
> > >
> > > >
> > > > And here is the readme from the other file within the update ?
> > > >
> > >
> > > http://driveragent.com/archive/10277/13-0-53
> > >
> > > The actual archive 10277 contents are shown here. This will make it
> > > easier for others to understand what you're talking about.
> > >
> > > http://driveragent.com/archive/10277#preview
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > CAN ANYONE TREAT ME LIKE A TWO YEAR OLD AND GIVE SOME GUIDANCE AS TO HOW TO
> > > > ACHIEVE THIS UPDATE .
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > i WOULD BE VERY GRATEFULL AND KIND OF THINK IT WOULD BE BENIFICIAL TO A LOT
> > > > MORE PEOPLE AS I SEE A LOT OF XP AND PROBLEMS OF THE KIND THIS UPDATE IS
> > > > SUPPOSED TO FIX .
> > > >
> > >
> > > *******
> > >
> > > You say you have a Toshiba Equium M50 (59E). Toshiba calls them Equium
> > > in Europe and calls them Satellite elsewhere. I seem to see references
> > > to things like M50-244, so it would seem they use a number for the
> > > sub-model. I haven't found any reference to 59E, which might stand for
> > > "59 Europe".
> > >
> > > I would have started with a Toshiba website, such as csd.toshiba.com,
> > > if I could find the model of the computer there. As it is, I have no
> > > place to start.
> > >
> > > It would really help a lot, to know what Northbridge and Southbridge
> > > the computer uses. Since I am unable to find the model using ordinary
> > > web searches, I cannot find out this information. You have the computer
> > > in front of you, could use Belarc Advisor or Everest Free Home edition
> > > or other tools, to get some information. The following is my guess...
> > >
> > > In terms of your chipset, I think the inside of your computer has an
> > > unfortunate combination of silicon. It likely uses an ATI Xpress Northbridge
> > > and a ULI Southbridge (M1575 ???). There was a point in time, where ATI didn't
> > > have a Southbridge ready, to go with their new Northbridge. They used one
> > > from ULI. As you can imagine, this muddies the driver support issue.
> > > ATI is responsible for providing a driver, but the chip itself
> > > comes from ULI. The worst thing that happened, was Nvidia (direct
> > > competitor of ATI), bought ULI Corporation and crushed them. No
> > > more ULI branded products are produced and ULI no longer exists.
> > >
> > > http://www.techreport.com/discussions/8201
> > >
> > > This is the Twinhan driver that you quote. It has enough files
> > > to do an INF style install, which means there is no Add/Remove
> > > option later. So a bad idea.
> > >
> > > http://www.twinhan.com/files/AW/BDA%...V1.28_WHQL.zip
> > >
> > > Now, if I go here, and download "integrated 220" at the top,
> > > it lists M1575 and USB. Yet, when I look inside, the support
> > > of M1575 is less certain.
> > >
> > > http://www.nvidia.com/page/uli_drivers.html
> > >
> > > This is the file I downloaded.
> > >
> > > http://http.download.nvidia.com/ULi/...egrated220.zip
> > >
> > > In the USB20 folder of that download, are things similar to the
> > > TwinHan directory. The AliEhci.inf mentions "VEN_10B9&DEV_5239".
> > > I compare that to the master list of available PCI device info.
> > > It does indeed seem to be a USB2 controller.
> > >
> > > http://pciids.sourceforge.net/pci.ids
> > >
> > > 10b9 ALi Corporation (Acer labs --> ALI --> ULI --> Nvidia)
> > > 5239 USB 2.0 Controller
> > >
> > > Now, a word about USB2 (Enhanced Host Controller Interface). Before
> > > WinXP SP1, they were in the process of developing a driver for
> > > USB2 hardware. When SP1 was officially released, Microsoft revoked
> > > the license of hardware manufacturers, to release USB2 drivers for
> > > their hardware. This means, that Microsoft took responsibility.
> > > The idea was, that any customer that wanted a USB2 driver, would
> > > get it by installing SP1. That means, if your WinXP installer
> > > disc is SP1, SP2, or SP3, in theory you get a USB2 driver, a standard
> > > one delivered by Microsoft.
> > >
> > > The hardware manufacturers make register-compatible USB2 hardware,
> > > and the Microsoft driver magically runs on top of it. That is called
> > > "the beauty of standards". No more grubbing for drivers.
> > >
> > > And this means, if you have a WinXP SP1 or later installer CD, the
> > > standard driver *should* be present.
> > >
> > > You could check Device Manager, and look for an Enhanced entry in the
> > > Universal Serial Bus Controllers section. Then, check to see what
> > > driver files are installed. If there is something already there, like
> > > usbehci.sys, usbhub.sys, usbport.sys and the like, then chances
> > > are you already have a driver.
> > >
> > > If, on the other hand, you've installed whatever Service Pack you
> > > intend to run (SP1, SP2, or SP3), and there is a yellow mark in
> > > Device Manager, for VEN_10B9&DEV_5239, then that means somehow
> > > the standard driver does not cover your hardware. (And that is
> > > hard to believe.)
> > >
> > > I tried looking through the contents of my i386 folder (the one
> > > WinXP installer uses). It has 5000 files, and many are compressed.
> > > By decompressing a few .IN_ (compressed INF files), I could look
> > > to see what hardware was supported. I did find VEN_10B9&DEV_5237,
> > > which is a ULI USB 1.1 controller, but not the USB 2 controller.
> > > I don't understand how a Service Pack incorporates newer hardware,
> > > and expect that is why I cannot find it. Microsoft probably has
> > > included it, but I don't understand the mechanism used to update
> > > the files on the computer during the install.
> > >
> > > In summary
> > >
> > > 1) Check Device Manager. Have an "Enhanced" entry in the USB
> > > section at the bottom ? Do the listed drivers for that device
> > > make sense ? Then you don't need a driver. It is already installed.
> > >
> > > 2) If you've exhausted all other possibilities, then and only then,
> > > should you contemplate using "ULi_Integrated220.zip". And if you
> > > do choose to use that one, there is probably a screen with
> > > tick boxes, to select driver components. Only tick the USB one!
> > > You don't want more trouble than you've already got. Typically,
> > > with an installer like this, you should have an entry in Add/Remove
> > > to remove it later.
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > > Paul
> > >


Zelator 02-21-2009 03:30 AM

Re: Problems with Touchpad,keyboard and USB after Ideacom update (
 
Nope it hasnt because it wont let me run Uli as there is no way of running it
(it says to use a patch for XP sp1 (i am on sp3) but the address it gives me
,Microsoft says it doesnt exist .

So i'm left with no way of installing the update as it does indeed crash in
that my mouse freezes as soon as i uninstall the drivers i want to update .

"Zelator" wrote:

> I think the penny has just dropped as i think what it is saying is install
> the uli first then uninstal drivers and my mouse will not go off (by crash it
> means my mouse will stop working )( but wont if i use uli first )
>
> just smile back at me if i'm right ;-)then this one can close
>
> "Zelator" wrote:
>
> > By the way also i have got the alps divice showing in device manager but it
> > is hidden with a question mark ............and also a hidden none USB device
> > with a question mark (serial ) but this one has no option for a driver (i'm
> > guessing this is keyboard issue having to standby then bring out of standby
> > to keep it working .It is working untill i press a key then it goes off
> > .....because the fn lights up when i press it .)
> >
> > "Zelator" wrote:
> >
> > > WOW is all i got to say ;-) right i'll do my best .
> > >
> > > What i got is a Equium M50-192
> > > PSM59E
> > > I down loaded from Toshiba europe driver support downloads under archived .
> > >
> > > After installing all downloads i had no ! on any .....but i still had no
> > > touchpad even seemingly instaled anywhere on laptop......and i had to do the
> > > standby thing to make the keyboard work .
> > >
> > > So i used the program DRIVER DETECTIVE and it showed that 9 of my drivers
> > > were out of date ...............so i installed them all except the one that
> > > says no device found (when i open the readme file in that update it says the
> > > trick is to uninstall the drivers first before updating with this one ).
> > > I just find it strange that it is the USB +touchpad+keyboard things that are
> > > playing up .............and that is what Driver detective is saying needs
> > > updated .
> > >
> > >
> > > So am i right in that you are saying open the updated file i have saved to
> > > desk top and within that file is a load of other files with one that says
> > > driver setup (this is the one that says cannot setup because other drivers
> > > are installed ) but the read me says to set up the Uli thing first in case
> > > system crashes (thats the bit that scares me lol ) .
> > > But it is still leaving me with the problem that i cannot uninstall present
> > > drivers for this because my mouse goes off and i cannot update the new
> > > drivers then .
> > >
> > > I'm probably sounding as dumb as i feel but i'm usually quit competent with
> > > all this its just that without the ability to move the cursor i'm stumped
> > > ..............could i access it from my other laptop also a Toshiba but with
> > > Vista onit .
> > >
> > > By the way thanks alot for your time i realy appreciate it and just wish i
> > > could give more detail .
> > >
> > > "Paul" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Zelator wrote:
> > > > > I have Equium M50 (59E) and got bitten by an update that took out my touchpad
> > > > > and keyboard .I have made fresh install of XP Home and have all updated
> > > > > drivers and all is going well .The last update i cant seem to fathom is for
> > > > > Driver Ana _2005_10_24_V1.2 it is for ,Standard Open HCD USB Host
> > > > > Controller........X 2 .........
> > > > >
> > > > > The update fixes all kinds of issues of the kind i am having and is a
> > > > > recomended update from Driver detective ,that i use offten .
> > > > >
> > > > > The trouble is it says to uninstall drivers for the one i have installed
> > > > > allready and when i do this it knocks off my USB mouse leaving me not able to
> > > > > install the new ones .When i reboot it installs the ones i dont want
> > > > > reinstalled .
> > > > >
> > > > > This is the read me off the new update and realy it is beyond me to
> > > > > underdstand what to do ............so here it is ?
> > > >
> > > > "Twinhan VP704A Driver Release note"
> > > >
> > > > http://driveragent.com/archive/10277/2-0-19
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > And here is the readme from the other file within the update ?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://driveragent.com/archive/10277/13-0-53
> > > >
> > > > The actual archive 10277 contents are shown here. This will make it
> > > > easier for others to understand what you're talking about.
> > > >
> > > > http://driveragent.com/archive/10277#preview
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > CAN ANYONE TREAT ME LIKE A TWO YEAR OLD AND GIVE SOME GUIDANCE AS TO HOW TO
> > > > > ACHIEVE THIS UPDATE .
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > i WOULD BE VERY GRATEFULL AND KIND OF THINK IT WOULD BE BENIFICIAL TO A LOT
> > > > > MORE PEOPLE AS I SEE A LOT OF XP AND PROBLEMS OF THE KIND THIS UPDATE IS
> > > > > SUPPOSED TO FIX .
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > *******
> > > >
> > > > You say you have a Toshiba Equium M50 (59E). Toshiba calls them Equium
> > > > in Europe and calls them Satellite elsewhere. I seem to see references
> > > > to things like M50-244, so it would seem they use a number for the
> > > > sub-model. I haven't found any reference to 59E, which might stand for
> > > > "59 Europe".
> > > >
> > > > I would have started with a Toshiba website, such as csd.toshiba.com,
> > > > if I could find the model of the computer there. As it is, I have no
> > > > place to start.
> > > >
> > > > It would really help a lot, to know what Northbridge and Southbridge
> > > > the computer uses. Since I am unable to find the model using ordinary
> > > > web searches, I cannot find out this information. You have the computer
> > > > in front of you, could use Belarc Advisor or Everest Free Home edition
> > > > or other tools, to get some information. The following is my guess...
> > > >
> > > > In terms of your chipset, I think the inside of your computer has an
> > > > unfortunate combination of silicon. It likely uses an ATI Xpress Northbridge
> > > > and a ULI Southbridge (M1575 ???). There was a point in time, where ATI didn't
> > > > have a Southbridge ready, to go with their new Northbridge. They used one
> > > > from ULI. As you can imagine, this muddies the driver support issue.
> > > > ATI is responsible for providing a driver, but the chip itself
> > > > comes from ULI. The worst thing that happened, was Nvidia (direct
> > > > competitor of ATI), bought ULI Corporation and crushed them. No
> > > > more ULI branded products are produced and ULI no longer exists.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.techreport.com/discussions/8201
> > > >
> > > > This is the Twinhan driver that you quote. It has enough files
> > > > to do an INF style install, which means there is no Add/Remove
> > > > option later. So a bad idea.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.twinhan.com/files/AW/BDA%...V1.28_WHQL.zip
> > > >
> > > > Now, if I go here, and download "integrated 220" at the top,
> > > > it lists M1575 and USB. Yet, when I look inside, the support
> > > > of M1575 is less certain.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.nvidia.com/page/uli_drivers.html
> > > >
> > > > This is the file I downloaded.
> > > >
> > > > http://http.download.nvidia.com/ULi/...egrated220.zip
> > > >
> > > > In the USB20 folder of that download, are things similar to the
> > > > TwinHan directory. The AliEhci.inf mentions "VEN_10B9&DEV_5239".
> > > > I compare that to the master list of available PCI device info.
> > > > It does indeed seem to be a USB2 controller.
> > > >
> > > > http://pciids.sourceforge.net/pci.ids
> > > >
> > > > 10b9 ALi Corporation (Acer labs --> ALI --> ULI --> Nvidia)
> > > > 5239 USB 2.0 Controller
> > > >
> > > > Now, a word about USB2 (Enhanced Host Controller Interface). Before
> > > > WinXP SP1, they were in the process of developing a driver for
> > > > USB2 hardware. When SP1 was officially released, Microsoft revoked
> > > > the license of hardware manufacturers, to release USB2 drivers for
> > > > their hardware. This means, that Microsoft took responsibility.
> > > > The idea was, that any customer that wanted a USB2 driver, would
> > > > get it by installing SP1. That means, if your WinXP installer
> > > > disc is SP1, SP2, or SP3, in theory you get a USB2 driver, a standard
> > > > one delivered by Microsoft.
> > > >
> > > > The hardware manufacturers make register-compatible USB2 hardware,
> > > > and the Microsoft driver magically runs on top of it. That is called
> > > > "the beauty of standards". No more grubbing for drivers.
> > > >
> > > > And this means, if you have a WinXP SP1 or later installer CD, the
> > > > standard driver *should* be present.
> > > >
> > > > You could check Device Manager, and look for an Enhanced entry in the
> > > > Universal Serial Bus Controllers section. Then, check to see what
> > > > driver files are installed. If there is something already there, like
> > > > usbehci.sys, usbhub.sys, usbport.sys and the like, then chances
> > > > are you already have a driver.
> > > >
> > > > If, on the other hand, you've installed whatever Service Pack you
> > > > intend to run (SP1, SP2, or SP3), and there is a yellow mark in
> > > > Device Manager, for VEN_10B9&DEV_5239, then that means somehow
> > > > the standard driver does not cover your hardware. (And that is
> > > > hard to believe.)
> > > >
> > > > I tried looking through the contents of my i386 folder (the one
> > > > WinXP installer uses). It has 5000 files, and many are compressed.
> > > > By decompressing a few .IN_ (compressed INF files), I could look
> > > > to see what hardware was supported. I did find VEN_10B9&DEV_5237,
> > > > which is a ULI USB 1.1 controller, but not the USB 2 controller.
> > > > I don't understand how a Service Pack incorporates newer hardware,
> > > > and expect that is why I cannot find it. Microsoft probably has
> > > > included it, but I don't understand the mechanism used to update
> > > > the files on the computer during the install.
> > > >
> > > > In summary
> > > >
> > > > 1) Check Device Manager. Have an "Enhanced" entry in the USB
> > > > section at the bottom ? Do the listed drivers for that device
> > > > make sense ? Then you don't need a driver. It is already installed.
> > > >
> > > > 2) If you've exhausted all other possibilities, then and only then,
> > > > should you contemplate using "ULi_Integrated220.zip". And if you
> > > > do choose to use that one, there is probably a screen with
> > > > tick boxes, to select driver components. Only tick the USB one!
> > > > You don't want more trouble than you've already got. Typically,
> > > > with an installer like this, you should have an entry in Add/Remove
> > > > to remove it later.
> > > >
> > > > HTH,
> > > > Paul
> > > >


Paul 02-21-2009 03:30 AM

Re: Problems with Touchpad,keyboard and USB after Ideacom update(
 
Zelator wrote:
> I think the penny has just dropped as i think what it is saying is install
> the uli first then uninstal drivers and my mouse will not go off (by crash it
> means my mouse will stop working )( but wont if i use uli first )
>
> just smile back at me if i'm right ;-)then this one can close
>


It sounds like you're way ahead of me.

Do you already have an Enhanced entry in the USB section of Device Manager ?
Check the drivers it is using.

Your theory is that somehow the USB driver is preventing the trackpad
package from installing ?

Can you provide a link to the Toshiba web page for your computer ?
I want to inspect the trackpad package.

Paul

Paul 02-21-2009 03:30 AM

Re: Problems with Touchpad,keyboard and USB after Ideacom update(
 
Paul wrote:
> Zelator wrote:
>> I think the penny has just dropped as i think what it is saying is
>> install the uli first then uninstal drivers and my mouse will not go
>> off (by crash it means my mouse will stop working )( but wont if i use
>> uli first )
>> just smile back at me if i'm right ;-)then this one can close

>
> It sounds like you're way ahead of me.
>
> Do you already have an Enhanced entry in the USB section of Device
> Manager ?
> Check the drivers it is using.
>
> Your theory is that somehow the USB driver is preventing the trackpad
> package from installing ?
>
> Can you provide a link to the Toshiba web page for your computer ?
> I want to inspect the trackpad package.
>
> Paul


http://uk.computers.toshiba-europe.c...elShortMod=437

I looked at the Alps package, and it doesn't look like a conventional
driver. It looks like somehow, the trackpad might automatically be
detected as a HID (human interface device) and the Alps package
filters the data coming from the trackpad. I cannot tell from
this package, how exactly the trackpad is connected.

http://support1.toshiba-tro.de/tedd-...1007152704.zip

Paul


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